Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:25:03PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: I see it just fine, but then I am sighted. I don't know how blind Debians access the list, but they do. I suppose they have something that does text to voice, or text to braille. Whatever it is, I doubt that it can handle figlet to

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-22 Thread Paul E Condon
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:04:14PM -0400, ScruLoose wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:13:11PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:32:57PM -0700, Steve C. Lamb wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:17:42PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Why would anybody read an inheirently

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-22 Thread Alfredo Valles
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 8:13 pm, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:25:03PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: I see it just fine, but then I am sighted. I don't know how blind Debians access the list, but they do. I suppose they have something that does text to voice, or text to

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-22 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 01:13:08AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: I know of a couple of Debian developers who are blind, or close to it. I've met one of them. Those that I know of all make tremendously useful contributions, more than many sighted

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 12:44:25PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 01:13:08AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: I know of a couple of Debian developers who are blind, or close to it. I've met one of them. Those that I know of all make tremendously useful contributions, more than

RE: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread DePriest, Jason R.
-Original Message- From: Paul Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: anti-spam idea for this list On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 03:17:48AM +0100, Pigeon wrote: I will give up my keyboard and text mode interface

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:08:41PM -0500, DePriest, Jason R. wrote: How about using ASCII art instead (a la figlet or somesuch)? See also: Warlording. http://ursine.ca/jargon/html/W/warlording.html - -- .''`. Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread Tom
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:08:41PM -0500, DePriest, Jason R. wrote: How about using ASCII art instead (a la figlet or somesuch)? it's machine parsable, defeats the purpose -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread Ray
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 12:08, DePriest, Jason R. wrote: How about using ASCII art instead (a la figlet or somesuch)? $ figlet -w 72 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Makes perfect sense to a human eye, but should foil spam harvester bots. try it without a monospace font. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread Paul E Condon
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:08:41PM -0500, DePriest, Jason R. wrote: -Original Message- From: Paul Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: anti-spam idea for this list On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 03:17

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:50:16PM -0500, Ray wrote: try it without a monospace font. Why would anybody read an inheirently monospace medium in anything but a monospaced font? - -- .''`. Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : `. `'`

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread Richard Kimber
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:17:42 -0700 Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try it without a monospace font. Why would anybody read an inheirently monospace medium in anything but a monospaced font? - -- .''`. Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread Steve C. Lamb
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:17:42PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Why would anybody read an inheirently monospace medium in anything but a monospaced font? The web is a monospaced medium? Since when? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:32:57PM -0700, Steve C. Lamb wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:17:42PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Why would anybody read an inheirently monospace medium in anything but a monospaced font? The web is a monospaced

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread ScruLoose
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:13:11PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:32:57PM -0700, Steve C. Lamb wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:17:42PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Why would anybody read an inheirently monospace medium in anything but a monospaced font?

anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-20 Thread Alfredo Valles
Would it be too difficult to use fuzzy images of the mail addresses instead of the text of the addresses itself to prevent programs from massively collecting address from the web archives of this list? I think that this method works because yahoo mail use it to prevent programs from creating

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-20 Thread John Hasler
Alfredo writes: Would it be too difficult to use fuzzy images of the mail addresses instead of the text of the addresses itself to prevent programs from massively collecting address from the web archives of this list? I think that this method works because yahoo mail use it to prevent

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-20 Thread Alfredo Valles
On Monday 20 October 2003 12:23 pm, John Hasler wrote: Would it be too difficult to use fuzzy images of the mail addresses instead of the text of the addresses itself to prevent programs from massively collecting address from the web archives of this list? I think that this method works

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-20 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 01:01:12PM -0400, Alfredo Valles wrote: At least yahoo care about making life easier to their users. Your idea of easier does not reflect that of the open source community, apparently. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson [EMAIL

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-20 Thread Tom
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 01:01:12PM -0400, Alfredo Valles wrote: On Monday 20 October 2003 12:23 pm, John Hasler wrote: Would it be too difficult to use fuzzy images of the mail addresses instead of the text of the addresses itself to prevent programs from massively collecting address

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-20 Thread Mike Dresser
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Tom wrote: For the blind, link to a CGI which generates the email as a WAV. And the blind and deaf? ... Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-20 Thread Tom
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 01:41:38PM -0400, Mike Dresser wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Tom wrote: For the blind, link to a CGI which generates the email as a WAV. And the blind and deaf? ... Mike I'm stumped; they would *have* to have machine-encodable information. I can think of only

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-20 Thread DePriest, Jason R.
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 12:16 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: Your idea of easier does not reflect that of the open source community, apparently. What does open source have to do with storing email addresses in archives in a format that is easily harvested by spam-bots? Does open source == no privacy?

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-20 Thread Pigeon
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:50:52AM -0400, Alfredo Valles wrote: Would it be too difficult to use fuzzy images of the mail addresses instead of the text of the addresses itself to prevent programs from massively collecting address from the web archives of this list? I will give up my keyboard

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-20 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 03:17:48AM +0100, Pigeon wrote: I will give up my keyboard and text mode interface when they pry it from my cold dead fingers... I'm with you, there. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : `. `'`