Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-15 Thread Brian Nelson
Rich Rudnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Me, I keep a minimal woody on another partition :) Yeah, it's always good to have a backup woody in case your primary one breaks. After all, you always want to minimize your woody's downtime. -- People said I was dumb, but I proved them! msg13145/p

Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-14 Thread Rich Rudnick
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 10:22, Craig Dickson wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > > You explain to the common man not to use unstable. :) > > > > It *certainly* shouldn't have broken in the first place, but accidents > > happen. If one doesn't have enough system administration experience to > > cope wi

Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-14 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 01:45:19PM -0600, Mark A. Bialik wrote: > Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > > The alternative would be to run a different distribution or compile from > > > source, and we wouldn't want that, would we? :) > > > > No that is not correct if you understand basics of Debian. > > Sarca

Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 04:17:33PM -0500, Robert L. Harris wrote: > > > Very nice writeup. > > Question, what if you want foo from unstable and it requires a version > of bar in unstable but your existing bar is from testing? What if bar > isn't installed at all and the requirement is going to

Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-14 Thread Robert L. Harris
han E Norman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:13:58 -0600 > From: Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing > X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archive/latest/245342 > > On

Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 11:54:51AM -0600, Mark A. Bialik wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > > This may sound callous, but those "some people" - or at least those > > people who *can* fix it, perhaps not trivially easily - are the only > > people who should be using unstable. > > ... and there are s

Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-14 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 11:22:30AM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: > I know Brian who complained this in -devel list was rightfully pissed at > the care taken by the uploader and he can deal with this situation > without problem. Most interesting part of Colin's comment is > > This may sound callous, bu

Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-14 Thread Mark A. Bialik
Osamu Aoki wrote: > > The alternative would be to run a different distribution or compile from > > source, and we wouldn't want that, would we? :) > > No that is not correct if you understand basics of Debian. Sarcasm, my man, Sarcasm. :) Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-14 Thread Mark A. Bialik
Craig Dickson wrote: > What's wrong with compiling from source? If you download the Debian > source package, it should have everything you need to build a proper > deb package, so what's the problem? Even if you don't build a deb, you > just install to /usr/local, and as long as you don't break an

Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-14 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 11:54:51AM -0600, Mark A. Bialik wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > > This may sound callous, but those "some people" - or at least those > > people who *can* fix it, perhaps not trivially easily - are the only > > people who should be using unstable. > > ... and there a

Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-14 Thread Craig Dickson
Mark A. Bialik wrote: > ... and there are some people who run unstable because certain packages > and/or versions of packages they need are only in unstable. > > The alternative would be to run a different distribution or compile from > source, and we wouldn't want that, would we? :) What's wro

Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-14 Thread nate
Colin Watson said: > This may sound callous, but those "some people" - or at least those people > who *can* fix it, perhaps not trivially easily - are the only people who > should be using unstable. speak for yourself :) I suggested a fix to someone who had this problem and they said it worked f

Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-14 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 11:26:10AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > This may sound callous, but those "some people" - or at least those > people who *can* fix it, perhaps not trivially easily - are the only > people who should be using unstable. Exatly :-) Where is chroot. I think it is lack of sim

Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-14 Thread Craig Dickson
Colin Watson wrote: > You explain to the common man not to use unstable. :) > > It *certainly* shouldn't have broken in the first place, but accidents > happen. If one doesn't have enough system administration experience to > cope with this kind of thing (after all, it was "just" everything > wri

Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-14 Thread Mark A. Bialik
Colin Watson wrote: > This may sound callous, but those "some people" - or at least those > people who *can* fix it, perhaps not trivially easily - are the only > people who should be using unstable. ... and there are some people who run unstable because certain packages and/or versions of pack

Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-14 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 02:22:25AM -0600, Mark A. Bialik wrote: > Brian Nelson wrote: > > The problem is simply that the library file was misnamed to > > libstdc++libc6.2-2.so.3. > > This may be easy enough for some people to fix, but how exactly do > explain to the common man how to fix it when t

Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-14 Thread Mark A. Bialik
Brian Nelson wrote: > The problem is simply that the library file was misnamed to > libstdc++libc6.2-2.so.3. This may be easy enough for some people to fix, but how exactly do explain to the common man how to fix it when the basic tools (dselect and apt-get) no longer work? At least on my system

Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-13 Thread Brian Nelson
iain d broadfoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > same thing for dselect and aptitude. And for every other C++ program you have... > any thoughts?? Beat maintain

Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-13 Thread iain d broadfoot
nate wrote: iain d broadfoot said: apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory same thing for dselect and aptitude. / any thoughts?? find the package that has that fil

Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-13 Thread nate
iain d broadfoot said: > apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > same thing for dselect and aptitude. > > / > > any thoughts?? find the package that has that file(us

argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

2002-11-13 Thread iain d broadfoot
apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory same thing for dselect and aptitude. / any thoughts?? i'm scared to reboot in case it doesn't come back at all. (shivers horri