Re: Backup Strategies for linux?

2004-04-25 Thread Tom Vier
On Sun, Apr 25, 2004 at 03:21:02AM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: > i say keep it simple ... use find and tar gnu tar does incremental backups. use -g (and -M for multiple tapes). -- Tom Vier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DSA Key ID 0x15741ECE -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "

Re: Backup Strategies for linux?

2004-04-25 Thread Glenn Meehan
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 20:12, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > (Recently) there was a discussion about it. `mondoarchiveĀ“ and cdbackup > or similar were suggested. apt-cache search backup will give you a > bunch of options. I used mondoarchive to do a complete backup to cd of my system. Seemed to work

Re: Backup Strategies for linux?

2004-04-25 Thread Alvin Oga
file automatically there? >What is the best way to have this kind of backup done? > > What different backup strategies are there on linux and what is the > best one? Is there some good website that discusses these? If someone > can point me there, it would be great. i

Re: Backup Strategies for linux?

2004-04-25 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
r and transfer this file automatically there? >What is the best way to have this kind of backup done? > > What different backup strategies are there on linux and what is the > best one? Is there some good website that discusses these? If someone > can point me there, i

Backup Strategies for linux?

2004-04-25 Thread Deboo
? What different backup strategies are there on linux and what is the best one? Is there some good website that discusses these? If someone can point me there, it would be great. Regards, Deboo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe"

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-03 Thread Richard Cobbe
Lo, on Tuesday, May 1, Alvin Oga did write: > > hi osamu... > > coolthat your script goes to cdr ... > ( looks like a manually run backup script due to "yn" question > > but its not a full nor incremental backup since its not backing > up "user defined" system config changes in /usr/local,

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-03 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya keith when i work on a backup system - i assume your primary machine yu are backing up lost its disks - i assume the backup disk can also lose its disk... - disk failures etc is easy to simulate... - just pull the cable off the disk... and see the panic and can

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-03 Thread Keith G. Murphy
Alvin Oga wrote: > > hi ya > > I'd use disk as backups... if i was starting from scratch > - nothing need be done...unlike tapes that requires regular > possibly daily interaction ) > Are you not concerned that your disk controller will go wacky, fubarring both drives? I'd be in

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-03 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 05:10:52PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > Used tape is not expensive. 8-12 GB units are available on eBay for < > US$100. Tape is cheap and reusable. I assume you mean some SCSI tape drives as that cheap. If it is so cheap, I should think about it when 640MB became no

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-02 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya I'd use disk as backups... if i was starting from scratch - nothing need be done...unlike tapes that requires regular possibly daily interaction ) 20Gb disks are about $100 now... and can hold 2-3 months of daily/weekly incremental backups before you have to

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, May 01, 2001 at 04:47:00PM -0700, Osamu Aoki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 04:11:25PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > The cd solution probably has an advantage, since I could use the cd-writer > > > for other cd-writing too. > > > > http://kmself.home.netcom.

Re: backup strategies - true

2001-05-01 Thread Alvin Oga
hi osamu... On Tue, 1 May 2001, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 06:04:13PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: > > but its not a full nor incremental backup since its not backing > > It's a hack. Do not expect to solve everything. yup... thats teh fun of it all... nothing will ever solve ever

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ha morgan... i think the first tar creates ROOT$date.tar.gz... and think it backup /home too since its not excluded ?? ( which should ignore itself... as you're referring unless /home is a link to go somewhere else the second tar command is not needed ?? the

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 06:04:13PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: > but its not a full nor incremental backup since its not backing It's a hack. Do not expect to solve everything. If you need incremental use -N option or something. (Read info tar) (Please do not quote everything, some people are from

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 07:13:59PM -0600, Morgan Terry wrote: > Alvin Oga wrote: > [...] > > i think $cdtemp should be in /tmp or /usr/tmp so that the temporary backup > > files /home/ftp/cdrimage/ROOT$date.tar.gz does not backup also into > > /home/ftp/cdrimage/HOME$date.tar.gz and a partial copy

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread Morgan Terry
Alvin Oga wrote: [...] > i think $cdtemp should be in /tmp or /usr/tmp so that the temporary backup > files /home/ftp/cdrimage/ROOT$date.tar.gz does not backup also into > /home/ftp/cdrimage/HOME$date.tar.gz and a partial copy of itself too ?? [...] Actually, tar (GNU tar at least) is smart enough

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread Alvin Oga
hi osamu... coolthat your script goes to cdr ... ( looks like a manually run backup script due to "yn" question but its not a full nor incremental backup since its not backing up "user defined" system config changes in /usr/local, /usr/lib ?? - good and bad idea... but yet another o

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 04:11:25PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > The cd solution probably has an advantage, since I could use the cd-writer > > for other cd-writing too. > > http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backups.html Tape is GOOD thing if you have money. For work, this is the

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, May 01, 2001 at 01:01:11PM +0200, Jeroen Valcke (jeroen@valcke.com) wrote: > Hello, > > After the not so pleasant adventures of last night (see my previous mail > "unattached inode") I started realizing that instead of my root fs the > problems could have occured on my home partition, des

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread Jens Gecius
Jeroen Valcke writes: > After the not so pleasant adventures of last night (see my previous mail > "unattached inode") I started realizing that instead of my root fs the > problems could have occured on my home partition, destroying valuable > data. I must admit I don't make backups on a regular

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread Alvin Oga
hi jeroen backups... i prefer find and tar eg... find /root /etc /home -mtime -$Days -type f -print | egrep -v "$EXCLUDE_this_stuff" | tar zcvf /Backup.Sunday/$HOST/$Year_$Mon/$Date_$Days.tgz -T - use find to find files that has changed "today" or last 7 days or last

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread punt45ACP
You mentioned a Windoze-PC, sh I'd suggest you make a separate partition on that one and do a "tar zcvf" to that partition. RAR for Linux might be an option as well... It's faster than using a CD-RW and, for once, you'll make proper use of your windoze-machine ;-) Jeroen Valcke wrote: > > Hel

backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread Jeroen Valcke
Hello, After the not so pleasant adventures of last night (see my previous mail "unattached inode") I started realizing that instead of my root fs the problems could have occured on my home partition, destroying valuable data. I must admit I don't make backups on a regular basis. Now and then I co