Thanks! (was Re: buy or build computer?)

2003-03-11 Thread Peter Christensen
The replies to this question have been so helpful! Also, the discussion on quiet computer cases. This is of concern to me because some of the new computers I've seen are SO noisy that I hesitate to order one through the mail. I feel like I need to hear it first! My old Gateway was extremely qui

Re: buy or build computer?

2003-03-11 Thread Pigeon
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:37:27AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 12:55, Peter Christensen wrote: > > My five-year-old Gateway Pentium 200 MHz died recently. (It won't boot from > > the hard drive or a rescue disk, and it won't go into bios-setup mode.) I > > don't think it's f

Re: Quiet cases (was Re: buy or build computer?)

2003-03-11 Thread Shri Shrikumar
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 17:17, Robert A. Knop Jr. wrote: > > Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Find a _quiet_ case; noisy fans can damage your hearing (ask me; I'll > > tell you. I've been around loud electronics for about 6 years now, > > servers and routers, and my ears ring all t

Re: Quiet cases (was Re: buy or build computer?)

2003-03-10 Thread Jamin Collins
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 06:18:24PM +, Joao Pedro Clemente wrote: > > > Can you recommend any good (not too expensive) quiet cases? I may > > build a computer soon to be my home grown PVR/DVD combo, and of > > course anything sitting in the living room on all the time needs to > > be quiet. >

Re: Quiet cases (was Re: buy or build computer?)

2003-03-10 Thread bob parker
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 04:17, Robert A. Knop Jr. wrote: > Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Find a _quiet_ case; noisy fans can damage your hearing (ask me; I'll > > tell you. I've been around loud electronics for about 6 years now, > > servers and routers, and my ears ring all the time)

Re: Quiet cases (was Re: buy or build computer?)

2003-03-10 Thread Joao Pedro Clemente
> Can you recommend any good (not too expensive) quiet cases? I may build > a computer soon to be my home grown PVR/DVD combo, and of course > anything sitting in the living room on all the time needs to be quiet. For that I would advice the Shuttle cases. I 've read plenty of good reviews on th

Quiet cases (was Re: buy or build computer?)

2003-03-10 Thread Robert A. Knop Jr.
Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Find a _quiet_ case; noisy fans can damage your hearing (ask me; I'll > tell you. I've been around loud electronics for about 6 years now, > servers and routers, and my ears ring all the time). I feel your pain... never mind the computer, the bloody

Re: buy or build computer?

2003-03-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 12:55, Peter Christensen wrote: > My five-year-old Gateway Pentium 200 MHz died recently. (It won't boot from > the hard drive or a rescue disk, and it won't go into bios-setup mode.) I > don't think it's fixable, and anyway, it was so slow that it's probably time > to repla

Re: buy or build computer?

2003-03-09 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 01:55:32PM -0500, Peter Christensen wrote: > My five-year-old Gateway Pentium 200 MHz died recently. (It won't boot from > the hard drive or a rescue disk, and it won't go into bios-setup mode.) I > don't think it's fixable, and anyway, it was so slow that it's probably ti

Re: buy or build computer?

2003-03-09 Thread Mark F.
I've researched building my own machine though have not initiated that project as of yet. I'd highly recommend "PC Hardware in a Nutshell" by Robert Thompson and Barbara Thompson and published by O'Reilly as an excellent guide to building a machine of one's own. Their website www.hardwareguys.

Re: buy or build computer? - intel v amd

2003-03-09 Thread Leo Spalteholz
On March 9, 2003 02:50 pm, Alvin Oga wrote: > On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > > cool -- speed is not the issue, as i've been happy with my 650 > > MHz PIII until the motherboard blew. just asking about how they > > stack up along the Intel-vs.-AMD line. > > depends on who's doing the t

Re: buy or build computer?

2003-03-09 Thread Robert A. Knop Jr.
> About your question. I have thought of building my own machine too, > but never got around to it. I was allways scared by the sheer amount > of possible audio and video cards and so on. I am not a hardware > hobbyist, so how do I know I would make the right choices and not get > incompatibles?

Re: buy or build computer? - intel v amd

2003-03-09 Thread Alvin Oga
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > cool -- speed is not the issue, as i've been happy with my 650 MHz > PIII until the motherboard blew. just asking about how they stack up > along the Intel-vs.-AMD line. depends on who's doing the testing and measuring.. but raw cpu info ... ( amd v

Re: buy or build computer?

2003-03-09 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Sun, 09 Mar 2003 01:53:51PM -0800, Leo Spalteholz insinuated: > On March 9, 2003 01:25 pm, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > > on Sun, 09 Mar 2003 02:36:10PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins insinuated: > > > > > > > A few people recommended the AMD Athlon processor over > > > > Pentiums. > > > > > > I've found th

Re: buy or build computer?

2003-03-09 Thread Alan Chandler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 Mar 2003 6:55 pm, Peter Christensen wrote: > My five-year-old Gateway Pentium 200 MHz died recently. (It won't boot > from the hard drive or a rescue disk, and it won't go into bios-setup > mode.) I don't think it's fixable, and anyway,

Re: buy or build computer?

2003-03-09 Thread Leo Spalteholz
On March 9, 2003 10:55 am, Peter Christensen wrote: > My five-year-old Gateway Pentium 200 MHz died recently. (It won't > boot from the hard drive or a rescue disk, and it won't go into > bios-setup mode.) I don't think it's fixable, and anyway, it was > so slow that it's probably time to replace

Re: buy or build computer?

2003-03-09 Thread Leo Spalteholz
On March 9, 2003 01:25 pm, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > on Sun, 09 Mar 2003 02:36:10PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins insinuated: > > You might check out the following (in no particular order): > >http://pricewatch.com > > i second this one! (no experience with the others) > > > > A few people recommended

Re: buy or build computer?

2003-03-09 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 01:20:26PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > > Most main stream video chipsets are well supported. > > hate both since they both have *.o files but no sources which > makes it harder to run your own customized kernels Never tru

Re: buy or build computer?

2003-03-09 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Sun, 09 Mar 2003 02:36:10PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins insinuated: > You might check out the following (in no particular order): >http://pricewatch.com i second this one! (no experience with the others) > > A few people recommended the AMD Athlon processor over Pentiums. > > I've found that

Re: buy or build computer?

2003-03-09 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 01:55:32PM -0500, Peter Christensen wrote: > > My five-year-old Gateway Pentium 200 MHz died recently. (It won't get a used 486 or used pentium to get yourself back online.. - just take the old disk and put in

Re: buy or build computer?

2003-03-09 Thread Faheem Mitha
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 13:55:32 -0500, Peter Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My five-year-old Gateway Pentium 200 MHz died recently. (It won't boot from > the hard drive or a rescue disk, and it won't go into bios-setup mode.) I > don't think it's fixable, and anyway, it was so slow that it

Re: buy or build computer?

2003-03-09 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 01:55:32PM -0500, Peter Christensen wrote: > My five-year-old Gateway Pentium 200 MHz died recently. (It won't > boot from the hard drive or a rescue disk, and it won't go into > bios-setup mode.) I don't think it's fixable, and anyway, it was so > slow that it's probably

Re: buy or build computer?

2003-03-09 Thread Christian Schoenebeck
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 13:55:32 -0500 "Peter Christensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A few people recommended the AMD Athlon processor over > Pentiums. Correct, e.g. more efficient in floating point operations than an Intel, which you will appreciate in multimedia apps, but there are also commercia

Re: buy or build computer?

2003-03-09 Thread Alan Shutko
Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Having someone else responsible for the hardware configuration seemed to me > not such a bad idea. Personally, I've never been convinced that any money saved or extra performance would be worth my extra time and hassle. I like having a single contact for

Re: buy or build computer?

2003-03-09 Thread Jérôme Blanc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I would strongly suggest you build it yourself ! It is very enjoyable and you can customize it to your own needs. It is not that hard, as byu reading your motherboard manual you should be able to do it by yourself :-) And one of the best advantage is

RE: buy or build computer?

2003-03-09 Thread David Turetsky
If you surf over to the Micronux web site (I bought the 7 CD Woody distribution from them) you will see some pretty rock solid linux configurations at very decent prices. They also link to a bunch of reviews and comparisons of the intel board vs whatever else is out there There's also a link to i

Re: buy or build computer?

2003-03-09 Thread Frans Pop
Hello Peter, Sorry your Gateway died. I have the same machine, about same age and still running! Currently as internet gateway on my little network at home. Never had any problems with it. (knock wood.) About your question. I have thought of building my own machine too, but never got around to

buy or build computer?

2003-03-09 Thread Peter Christensen
My five-year-old Gateway Pentium 200 MHz died recently. (It won't boot from the hard drive or a rescue disk, and it won't go into bios-setup mode.) I don't think it's fixable, and anyway, it was so slow that it's probably time to replace it. Temporarily I'm using a borrowed computer with Win95.