Re: 127.0.1.1 line, was Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-05 Thread David Christensen
On 8/4/23 19:26, David Wright wrote: On Thu 03 Aug 2023 at 15:56:07 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: On 8/2/23 19:05, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 07:01:22PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: Interesting. Is there a Debian specification that explains the 127.0.1.1 entry?

Re: 127.0.1.1 line, was Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-04 Thread David Wright
On Thu 03 Aug 2023 at 15:56:07 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > On 8/2/23 19:05, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 07:01:22PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > > > Interesting. Is there a Debian specification that explains the 127.0.1.1 > > > entry? > > > >

Re: 127.0.1.1 line, was Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-03 Thread David Christensen
On 8/2/23 19:05, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 07:01:22PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: Interesting. Is there a Debian specification that explains the 127.0.1.1 entry? https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_hostname_resolution I'm sure there

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread David Wright
On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 14:48:30 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 8/2/23 13:21, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 01:07:13PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > On 8/2/23 07:14, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:43:32AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > > > *

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:05:11PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] > show mea link to the doc that explains that please > Cheers, Gene Heskett. There's not "the doc", but many of them. For starters, rfc5735 [1] tells us that the whole subnet 127.0.0.0/8 is available for loopback purposes (I've

Re: 127.0.1.1 line, was Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread David Wright
On Thu 03 Aug 2023 at 07:48:54 (+0800), jeremy ardley wrote: > On 3/8/23 07:34, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 16:00:24 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > > On 8/2/23 15:15, Brian wrote: > > > > > Where is the line with 127.0.1.1? Debian always provides that. > > > > > > > > >

Re: 127.0.1.1 line, was Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 07:01:22PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > Interesting. Is there a Debian specification that explains the 127.0.1.1 > entry? https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_hostname_resolution I'm sure there are others, but this was the first one

Re: 127.0.1.1 line, was Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread David Christensen
On 8/2/23 16:34, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 16:00:24 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 15:15, Brian wrote: Where is the line with 127.0.1.1? Debian always provides that. True, but I've never seen a description of what that does or what its for.

Re: 127.0.1.1 line, was Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread David Christensen
On 8/2/23 16:26, David Wright wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 16:00:24 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 15:15, Brian wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 14:52:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 14:26, Brian wrote: No - that isn't the way it works. Give what is asked for, not a censored

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/2/23 17:02, Brian wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 16:00:24 -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 15:15, Brian wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 14:52:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 14:26, Brian wrote: No - that isn't the way it works. Give what is asked for, not a censored version

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/2/23 17:02, Brian wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 16:00:24 -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 15:15, Brian wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 14:52:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 14:26, Brian wrote: No - that isn't the way it works. Give what is asked for, not a censored version

Re: 127.0.1.1 line, was Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread jeremy ardley
On 3/8/23 07:34, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 16:00:24 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 15:15, Brian wrote: Where is the line with 127.0.1.1? Debian always provides that. True, but I've never seen a description of what that does or what its for.

Re: 127.0.1.1 line, was Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
> On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 16:00:24 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On 8/2/23 15:15, Brian wrote: > > > Where is the line with 127.0.1.1? Debian always provides that. > > > > > True, but I've never seen a description of what that does or what its > > for.

127.0.1.1 line, was Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread David Wright
On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 16:00:24 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 8/2/23 15:15, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 14:52:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > On 8/2/23 14:26, Brian wrote: > > > > No - that isn't the way it works. Give what is asked for, not a censored > > > > version that suits

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/2/23 15:17, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:14:41PM +0100, Brian wrote: Where is the line with 127.0.1.1? Debian always provides that. Either deleted, or not provided by Armbian in the first place. In any case, it's not immediately relevant to this thread's issue, so

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/2/23 15:15, Brian wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 14:52:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 14:26, Brian wrote: No - that isn't the way it works. Give what is asked for, not a censored version that suits you. ok, same cat in full: gene@bpi52:~$ cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread Lee
On 8/2/23, Brian wrote: > On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 14:52:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > >> On 8/2/23 14:26, Brian wrote: >> > No - that isn't the way it works. Give what is asked for, not a >> > censored >> > version that suits you. >> > >> ok, same cat in full: >> gene@bpi52:~$ cat /etc/hosts >>

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:14:41PM +0100, Brian wrote: > Where is the line with 127.0.1.1? Debian always provides that. Either deleted, or not provided by Armbian in the first place. In any case, it's not immediately relevant to this thread's issue, so long as the web service doesn't redirect to

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread Andy Smith
Gene, On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 02:05:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > this is a blatent attack by chrome You've absolutely no evidence to suggest that, and other people have already pointed out they are unable to replicate your issues. Like almost every thread you start or derail here this is

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/2/23 14:26, Brian wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 13:07:13 -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 07:14, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:43:32AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: * "localhost:80" - This is ambiguous [...] It would be nice if we had an exact recipe for how to

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/2/23 13:21, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 01:07:13PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 07:14, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:43:32AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: * "localhost:80" - This is ambiguous [...] It would be nice if we had an exact recipe for

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/2/23 09:42, Stefan Monnier wrote: It would be nice if we had an exact recipe for how to reproduce the problem. Failing that, it'll be up to Gene to debug the situation on his end. I'm still leaning toward an edited /etc/hosts file. My guess is that his Chrome runs in a kind of container

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 01:07:13PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 8/2/23 07:14, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:43:32AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > * "localhost:80" - This is ambiguous > > > > [...] > > > > It would be nice if we had an exact recipe for how to reproduce

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/2/23 07:14, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:43:32AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: * "localhost:80" - This is ambiguous [...] It would be nice if we had an exact recipe for how to reproduce the problem. Failing that, it'll be up to Gene to debug the situation on his end.

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
> It would be nice if we had an exact recipe for how to reproduce the > problem. Failing that, it'll be up to Gene to debug the situation on > his end. I'm still leaning toward an edited /etc/hosts file. My guess is that his Chrome runs in a kind of container that doesn't have access to the

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:43:32AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > * "localhost:80" - This is ambiguous > > In the case of the latter, are you wanting to use the localhost scheme to > access the resource called 80 (now, you're going to say "There is no > protocol called localhost" and I think that

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread Darac Marjal
On 01/08/2023 10:33, gene heskett wrote: Google seems to have high jacked port 80, I cannot use it as a browser to run klipper as a google search intercepts port 80, so localhost:80 cannot be used for troubleshooting or for running a 3d printer with klipper.. I think this comes down to an

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-01 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Tuesday 01 August 2023 05:33:55 am gene heskett wrote: > Google seems to have high jacked port 80, I cannot use it as a browser > to run klipper as a google search intercepts port 80, so localhost:80 > cannot be used for troubleshooting or for running a 3d printer with > klipper.. > > FF

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-01 Thread Bret Busby
On 1/8/23 20:54, gene heskett wrote: On 8/1/23 06:26, Bret Busby wrote: On 1/8/23 17:33, gene heskett wrote: Google seems to have high jacked port 80, I cannot use it as a browser to run klipper as a google search intercepts port 80, so localhost:80 cannot be used for troubleshooting or for

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-01 Thread gene heskett
On 8/1/23 06:26, Bret Busby wrote: On 1/8/23 17:33, gene heskett wrote: Google seems to have high jacked port 80, I cannot use it as a browser to run klipper as a google search intercepts port 80, so localhost:80 cannot be used for troubleshooting or for running a 3d printer with klipper..

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Aug 01, 2023 at 08:13:50AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 8/1/23 06:16, Phil Wyett wrote: > > On Tue, 2023-08-01 at 05:33 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Maybe direct this to the appropriate arena. Debians default browser is > > Firefox, if there is no issue with FF means

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-01 Thread gene heskett
On 8/1/23 06:16, Phil Wyett wrote: On Tue, 2023-08-01 at 05:33 -0400, gene heskett wrote: Google seems to have high jacked port 80, I cannot use it as a browser to run klipper as a google search intercepts port 80, so localhost:80 cannot be used for troubleshooting or for running a 3d printer

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 01, 2023 at 05:33:55AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Google seems to have high jacked port 80, I cannot use it as a browser to > run klipper as a google search intercepts port 80, so localhost:80 cannot be > used for troubleshooting or for running a 3d printer with klipper.. > > FF has

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-01 Thread Bret Busby
On 1/8/23 17:33, gene heskett wrote: Google seems to have high jacked port 80, I cannot use it as a browser to run klipper as a google search intercepts port 80, so localhost:80 cannot be used for troubleshooting or for running a 3d printer with klipper.. FF has no such problems. Cheers,

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-01 Thread Phil Wyett
On Tue, 2023-08-01 at 05:33 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Google seems to have high jacked port 80, I cannot use it as a > browser > to run klipper as a google search intercepts port 80, so localhost:80 > cannot be used for troubleshooting or for running a 3d printer with > klipper.. > > FF has

chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-01 Thread gene heskett
Google seems to have high jacked port 80, I cannot use it as a browser to run klipper as a google search intercepts port 80, so localhost:80 cannot be used for troubleshooting or for running a 3d printer with klipper.. FF has no such problems. Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes