Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue,09.Feb.10, 23:06:08, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Andrei Popescu put forth on 2/9/2010 3:37 AM: On Mon,08.Feb.10, 16:33:39, Stan Hoeppner wrote: So, are you saying it didn't happen? Couldn't have happened? Shouldn't have happened? I'm imagining things? Are you kidding? No,

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-10 Thread Alex Samad
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:46:08AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Tue,09.Feb.10, 23:06:08, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Andrei Popescu put forth on 2/9/2010 3:37 AM: On Mon,08.Feb.10, 16:33:39, Stan Hoeppner wrote: [snip] I don't know anything about these scripts. When do they run? And are

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-10 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 20100210084608.gu14...@think.homelan, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Tue,09.Feb.10, 23:06:08, Stan Hoeppner wrote: I don't know anything about these scripts. When do they run? Udev is a daemon, started fairly early in the boot process. It communicates with the kernel. It evaluates the rules

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,08.Feb.10, 16:33:39, Stan Hoeppner wrote: So, are you saying it didn't happen? Couldn't have happened? Shouldn't have happened? I'm imagining things? Are you kidding? No, I'm saying that under normal circumstances it should work. It broke. I fixed it by manually editing the

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,08.Feb.10, 20:07:36, Frank Miles wrote: I won't belabor this. Putting in a different NIC fixed things. No fuss, though interesting that it (presumably udev) wanted to call it eth2. I can live with that. Of course it did, eth0 and eth1 were already taken ;) Regards, Andrei --

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-09 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Andrei Popescu put forth on 2/9/2010 3:37 AM: On Mon,08.Feb.10, 16:33:39, Stan Hoeppner wrote: So, are you saying it didn't happen? Couldn't have happened? Shouldn't have happened? I'm imagining things? Are you kidding? No, I'm saying that under normal circumstances it should work.

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-08 Thread Frank Miles
Thanks so much to Stan, Tom H, and Cameleon! It seems that the consensus is that it's a NIC problem. In case it wasn't previously clear, the RealTek 8169 is part of the Gigabyte motherboard. I thought that I'd escaped non-free-firmware hell by getting a MB with the graphics based on an Intel

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-08 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Frank Miles put forth on 2/8/2010 10:32 AM: Thanks so much to Stan, Tom H, and Cameleon! It seems that the consensus is that it's a NIC problem. In case it wasn't previously clear, the RealTek 8169 is part of the Gigabyte motherboard. I thought that I'd escaped non-free-firmware hell by

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,08.Feb.10, 01:15:43, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Perhaps the kernel brings eth1 into existence by first establishing it as eth0, then renaming it to eth1; then bringing the real eth0 into existence. The above can happen when you add NICs to the system. I hate UDEV for this, and it

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-08 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Andrei Popescu put forth on 2/8/2010 2:29 PM: On Mon,08.Feb.10, 01:15:43, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Perhaps the kernel brings eth1 into existence by first establishing it as eth0, then renaming it to eth1; then bringing the real eth0 into existence. The above can happen when you add NICs to

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-08 Thread Frank Miles
I won't belabor this. Putting in a different NIC fixed things. No fuss, though interesting that it (presumably udev) wanted to call it eth2. I can live with that. Thanks again, everyone! -Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Frank Miles
I am in the final throes of getting a new system running (Debian/squeeze). For the past 2 weeks it's had just eth0, and the network has worked fine. Now I want this system to have two network interfaces - the original eth0, and eth1 to a DSL modem, just like its precessor system. The strange

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:07:03 -0800, Frank Miles wrote: (...) There is one troubling line in the logs from boot: udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1 Doing an ifdown eth1 does not fix the eth0 problem. Mmm... check your /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, there should be

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Frank Miles
Thanks, Camaleon (sorry - don't know how to generate the proper characters). That file includes: # PCI device 0x10ec:0x8168 (r8169) SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*, ATTR{address}==xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx, ATTR{dev_id}==0x0, ATTR{type}==1, KERNEL==eth*, NAME=eth0 # PCI device 0x10b7:0x9050

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:41:46 -0800, Frank Miles wrote: Thanks, Camaleon (sorry - don't know how to generate the proper characters). Still us-ascii? ;-) No problem. That file includes: # PCI device 0x10ec:0x8168 (r8169) SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*,

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Frank Miles
[snip] I fail to see what it's doing, but I cannot see any reference to eth1, it's like only one interace is being recognized :-? What is the output of dmesg | grep eth? [6.317161] eth1: RTL8168d/8111d at 0xc9c4e000, xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx, XID 083000c0 IRQ 32 [6.384830] eth1:

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Tom H
That file includes: # PCI device 0x10ec:0x8168 (r8169) SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*, ATTR{address}==xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx, ATTR{dev_id}==0x0, ATTR{type}==1, KERNEL==eth*, NAME=eth0 # PCI device 0x10b7:0x9050 (3c59x) SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*,

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:36:13 -0800, Frank Miles wrote: [snip] I fail to see what it's doing, but I cannot see any reference to eth1, it's like only one interace is being recognized :-? What is the output of dmesg | grep eth? [6.317161] eth1: RTL8168d/8111d at

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Tom H
I made a minor effort earlier to suppress the IPv6 modules, but [a] didn't succeed Add ipv6.disable=1 to the grub kernel/linux line to disable ipv6 (without recompiling the kernel) but it cannot be the problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:36:13 -0800, Frank Miles wrote: [snip] I fail to see what it's doing, but I cannot see any reference to eth1, it's like only one interace is being recognized :-? What is the output of dmesg | grep eth? [6.317161] eth1: RTL8168d/8111d at

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Tom H
[    6.317161] eth1: RTL8168d/8111d at 0xc9c4e000,xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx, XID 083000c0 IRQ 32 [    6.384830] eth1: unable to apply firmware patch [    7.190453] udev: renamed network interface eth1 to eth0 [    7.229390] udev: renamed network interface eth0_rename to eth1 [   11.276999]

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Frank Miles
... ok, started... [snip] I fail to see what it's doing, but I cannot see any reference to eth1, it's like only one interace is being recognized :-? What is the output of dmesg | grep eth? [6.317161] eth1: RTL8168d/8111d at 0xc9c4e000,xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx, XID 083000c0 IRQ 32 [

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Hi Frank, sorry you're going through such pains here. Did the same myself not long ago. Frank Miles put forth on 2/7/2010 12:41 PM: Feb 7 04:51:22 puffin kernel: [6.156559] r8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver 2.3LK-NAPI loaded Feb 7 04:51:22 puffin kernel: [6.156573] r8169 :02:00.0: