On Sat, May 09, 2020 at 08:05:48PM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote:
NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
├─sda1 8:10 512M 0 part /boot/efi
├─sda2 8:20 244M 0 part /boot
What's the best way to increase the size of /boot ?
First,
On Mon, 11 May 2020 11:21:35 -0500
David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 11 May 2020 at 10:27:48 (-0400), Celejar wrote:
...
> > Yes. FDE including boot is doable, but it takes more work (and isn't
> > necessarily worth it, depending on the threat model - see above):
>
> I don't encrypt root because
On Mon 11 May 2020 at 10:27:48 (-0400), Celejar wrote:
> On Mon, 11 May 2020 07:36:27 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Sat, May 09, 2020 at 10:05:40PM -0700, Will Mengarini wrote:
> > > * Rick Thomas [20-05/09=Sa 20:05 -0700]:
> > > > [...] died for lack of space in /boot [...]
> > >
> > >
On Mon, 11 May 2020 07:36:27 -0400
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sat, May 09, 2020 at 10:05:40PM -0700, Will Mengarini wrote:
> > * Rick Thomas [20-05/09=Sa 20:05 -0700]:
> > > [...] died for lack of space in /boot [...]
> >
> > Long ago I stopped bothering with a separate /boot, and behold, I yet
On Lu, 11 mai 20, 01:09:46, David Christensen wrote:
> On 2020-05-10 23:12, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Du, 10 mai 20, 12:30:29, David Christensen wrote:
> > >
> > > As for using GRML, I have never heard of it. The Debian Installer can get
> > > the job done. That said, I have about a half
On Sat, May 09, 2020 at 10:05:40PM -0700, Will Mengarini wrote:
> * Rick Thomas [20-05/09=Sa 20:05 -0700]:
> > [...] died for lack of space in /boot [...]
>
> Long ago I stopped bothering with a separate /boot, and behold, I yet
> live. ISTR the Debian installer doesn't default to creating one
On 2020-05-10 23:12, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 10 mai 20, 12:30:29, David Christensen wrote:
As for using GRML, I have never heard of it. The Debian Installer can get
the job done. That said, I have about a half dozen machines and have been
feeling the need for installation and deployment
On 2020-05-10 15:53, Rick Thomas wrote:
On Sun, May 10, 2020, at 12:30 PM, David Christensen wrote:
As for using GRML, I have never heard of it. The Debian Installer can
get the job done.
GRML [1] says: "Grml is a bootable live system (Live-CD) based on Debian. Grml
includes a
On Du, 10 mai 20, 12:30:29, David Christensen wrote:
>
> As for using GRML, I have never heard of it. The Debian Installer can get
> the job done. That said, I have about a half dozen machines and have been
> feeling the need for installation and deployment automation. I have heard of
> Puppet
On Du, 10 mai 20, 04:03:29, Rick Thomas wrote:
> On Sun, May 10, 2020, at 3:22 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Du, 10 mai 20, 02:02:45, Rick Thomas wrote:
> > > So... Here's another question:
> > >
> > > Why is the default size of /boot, as created by the installer, so
> > > small? Disk (even
Old ways die hard, disk space is cheap! these days
On 10/5/20 1:53 pm, The Wanderer wrote:
On 2020-05-09 at 23:36, Andy Smith wrote:
Hi Rick,
On Sat, May 09, 2020 at 08:05:48PM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote:
What's the best way to increase the size of /boot ?
There is no easy way. If you boot
On 11/5/20 8:53 am, Rick Thomas wrote:
On Sun, May 10, 2020, at 12:30 PM, David Christensen wrote:
As for using GRML, I have never heard of it. The Debian Installer can
get the job done.
GRML [1] says: "Grml is a bootable live system (Live-CD) based on Debian. Grml
includes a collection
On 5/10/20 03:07, Rick Thomas wrote:
> On Sun, May 10, 2020, at 1:17 AM, David Christensen wrote:
>> On 2020-05-09 22:05, Will Mengarini wrote:
>>> * Rick Thomas [20-05/09=Sa 20:05 -0700]:
What's the best way to increase the size of /boot?
>>> By creating a reliable backup and
On Sun, May 10, 2020, at 12:30 PM, David Christensen wrote:
> As for using GRML, I have never heard of it. The Debian Installer can
> get the job done.
GRML [1] says: "Grml is a bootable live system (Live-CD) based on Debian. Grml
includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially
On 2020-05-10 02:07, Rick Thomas wrote:
On Sun, May 10, 2020, at 1:17 AM, David Christensen wrote:
On 2020-05-09 22:05, Will Mengarini wrote:
* Rick Thomas [20-05/09=Sa 20:05 -0700]:
What's the best way to increase the size of /boot?
By creating a reliable backup and reformatting the disk
On Sun 10 May 2020 at 16:30:56 (+0200), Sven Hartge wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
>
> > If the answer is many, you could shrink some of them by rebuilding
> > their initrd.img files with MODULES=dep, which could reduce each
> > kernel's size from ~40M to <10M.
>
> While this will reduce this
David Wright wrote:
> If the answer is many, you could shrink some of them by rebuilding
> their initrd.img files with MODULES=dep, which could reduce each
> kernel's size from ~40M to <10M.
While this will reduce this initrd size, you should also mention the
consequences of doing this:
It
On Sat 09 May 2020 at 20:05:48 (-0700), Rick Thomas wrote:
> I recently did a "apt update ; apt upgrade" and it died for lack of space in
> /boot when trying to install the latest kernel.
>
> I purged a couple of old kernel packages (still present in the 'stable' repo,
> so they weren't
On Sunday, May 10, 2020 05:07:24 AM Rick Thomas wrote:
> > > * Rick Thomas [20-05/09=Sa 20:05 -0700]:
> > >> What's the best way to increase the size of /boot?
> Yeah, that's probably what I'll do. Fortunately, it's an amd64 machine, so
> I'll be able to use GRML to do the work. Enjoy!
On Sun, May 10, 2020, at 3:22 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 10 mai 20, 02:02:45, Rick Thomas wrote:
> > So... Here's another question:
> >
> > Why is the default size of /boot, as created by the installer, so
> > small? Disk (even SSD) is cheap enough these days that the default
> > size
On Du, 10 mai 20, 02:02:45, Rick Thomas wrote:
> So... Here's another question:
>
> Why is the default size of /boot, as created by the installer, so
> small? Disk (even SSD) is cheap enough these days that the default
> size could be as much as a GB without great pain.
>
> Has this been
On Sun, May 10, 2020, at 1:17 AM, David Christensen wrote:
> On 2020-05-09 22:05, Will Mengarini wrote:
> > * Rick Thomas [20-05/09=Sa 20:05 -0700]:
> >> What's the best way to increase the size of /boot?
> > By creating a reliable backup and reformatting the disk to
> > the new format. I've
So... Here's another question:
Why is the default size of /boot, as created by the installer, so small? Disk
(even SSD) is cheap enough these days that the default size could be as much as
a GB without great pain.
Has this been thought about by the PTBs? Was there a discussion of possibly
* Rick Thomas [20-05/09=Sa 20:05 -0700]:
> [...] died for lack of space in /boot [...]
Long ago I stopped bothering with a separate /boot, and behold, I yet
live. ISTR the Debian installer doesn't default to creating one either.
If you really want a bastion filesystem for booting, I suggest it
On 2020-05-09 22:05, Will Mengarini wrote:
* Rick Thomas [20-05/09=Sa 20:05 -0700]:
What's the best way to increase the size of /boot?
By creating a reliable backup and reformatting the disk to
the new format. I've never found it to be cost-effective
to try anything else.
+1
I don't
> Consider the time you've spent posing this question, waiting for the
> answers, and reading them. Dump and reload might've finished already.
True, but I wouldn't have learned half so much and wouldn't have had a third so
much had so much fun learning it!
Stay safe!
On Sat, May 9, 2020, at 9:10 PM, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Sat, 09 May 2020 20:05:48 -0700
> "Rick Thomas" wrote:
>
> > Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/mapper/debian--vg-root ext4 30G 9.9G 19G 36% /
> > /dev/sda2
On Sb, 09 mai 20, 22:05:40, Will Mengarini wrote:
> * Rick Thomas [20-05/09=Sa 20:05 -0700]:
> > [...] died for lack of space in /boot [...]
>
> Long ago I stopped bothering with a separate /boot, and behold, I yet
> live. ISTR the Debian installer doesn't default to creating one
> either.
On Sat, 09 May 2020 20:05:48 -0700
"Rick Thomas" wrote:
> Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/mapper/debian--vg-root ext4 30G 9.9G 19G 36% /
> /dev/sda2 ext2 248M 78M 158M 34% /boot
Odd. That should be good for more
On 2020-05-09 at 23:36, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi Rick,
>
> On Sat, May 09, 2020 at 08:05:48PM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote:
>> What's the best way to increase the size of /boot ?
>
> There is no easy way. If you boot into a live/rescue environment and
> run parted you *may* be able to shrink your
Another thought that is maybe a little outside the box: If your BIOS
supports booting from USB or media slot then you could maybe make a
new boot partition on one of those devices and switch to booting
from that from now on.
Ties up a USB or media slot forever of course, but possibly an
Hi Rick,
On Sat, May 09, 2020 at 08:05:48PM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote:
> What's the best way to increase the size of /boot ?
There is no easy way. If you boot into a live/rescue environment and
run parted you *may* be able to shrink your LVM and grow your /boot
but it's a procedure fraught with
I recently did a "apt update ; apt upgrade" and it died for lack of space in
/boot when trying to install the latest kernel.
I purged a couple of old kernel packages (still present in the 'stable' repo,
so they weren't obsolete) to make enough space and tried again. Worked this
time, but I
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 05:29:28PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
Don't know, but Jumping Jackflash has got a nice ring to it. A credit to the
Stones, and every time you boot, the login screen shows an animated version
of Mick Jagger, and a few words from the tune.
Remember Start me up from
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http://www.hollywoodinvestigator.com/newzoorevue.htm
I still vote that 9.10 should be Komatose Kubuntu. KDE has been
largely ignored by Canonical devs, relative to XFCE and
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Note that this post is _not_ critical of Canonical's commitment to
Gnome! I rather appreciate Canonical's contributions to Gnome and
Linux in general. However, as a KDE brat, I feel left out :) If
Kubuntu weren't marketed as an official Ubuntu build
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Kubuntu
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Everyone piped up:
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Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
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Everyone piped up:
[...]
I hereby propose the Jibbering Jackalope.
Cybe
Do I get a prize for coming so close to reality, something I usually
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Not all of us keep up with Ubuntu (I
Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
Cybe R. Wizard [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Everyone piped up:
[...]
I hereby propose the Jibbering Jackalope.
Cybe
Do I get a prize for coming so close to reality, something I usually
try to avoid?
Cybe R.
On Saturday 29 November 2008 16:57, Kent West wrote:
Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
Cybe R. Wizard [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Everyone piped up:
[...]
I hereby propose the Jibbering Jackalope.
Cybe
Do I get a prize for coming so close to reality, something I usually
try to avoid?
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Nigel Henry
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Don't know, but Jumping Jackflash has got a nice ring to it. A credit to the
Stones, and every time you boot, the login screen shows an animated version
of Mick Jagger, and a few words from the tune.
I wish that Henrietta
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I loved Flying Circus!
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Is this the right room for an argument?
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Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
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Florian Kulzer
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On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:18:33PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
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As for everyone else why are we having this crap discussion
AGAIN.
only a matter of time. real traffic is down, OT is up... flame wars a
comin'
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As for everyone else why are we having this crap discussion
AGAIN.
only a matter of time. real traffic is down, OT is up... flame wars a
comin'
Is
Florian Kulzer wrote:
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HA-H!
I loved Flying Circus!
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Andrew, since it's OT time, tell me more about your International. I
am currently restoring a 1948 IH KB1, myself. Parts and reliable
information are hard
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Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
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comin'
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Andrew, since it's OT time, tell me more about your International. I
am currently
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote:
Florian Kulzer wrote:
Is this the right room for an argument?
HA-H!
I loved Flying Circus!
No, you didn't!
Well, now you're just contradicting.
A
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On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote:
Florian Kulzer wrote:
Is this the right room for an argument?
HA-H!
I loved Flying Circus!
No, you
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On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 08:36:26 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:18:33PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
...
As for everyone else why are we having this crap discussion
AGAIN.
only a
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
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It *is* a pain. Friends in Western NY also say that milk about $3/gal.
Come on guys, it's not fair. You are complaining about 3$/gal for milk
and gas? What about Europe, where we pay
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It *is* a pain. Friends in Western NY also say that milk about $3/gal.
Come on guys, it's not fair. You
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Hey! I'm almost poor, ignorant of many things, and often boorish, but
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Hey! I'm almost poor, ignorant of many things, and often boorish, but
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On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote:
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On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
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It *is* a pain. Friends in Western NY also say that milk about
$3/gal.
Come on guys,
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It *is* a
Paul Johnson wrote:
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It *is* a pain. Friends in Western NY
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Thunderbird is a brand of cheap alcohol mostly drunk by winos --bums. It
Shame on you for insinuating such a mean thing about the Differently
Drinking
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On Friday 11 April 2008 08:17:56 am Ron Johnson wrote:
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On Friday 11 April 2008 08:23:19 am Damon L. Chesser wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote:
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On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
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It *is* a
On Friday 11 April 2008 11:29:02 am Rich Healey wrote:
pfft. i pay $1.60 AUD a litre for diesel.
Petrol prices ar buggered everywhere.. which makes me wonder.. why iraq?
wasn't freedom.. and based on evidence sure as bloody hell wasn't oil!
Worst yet, the way the whole thing was
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 08:23:19 am Damon L. Chesser wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
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On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/10/08
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 11:29:02 am Rich Healey wrote:
pfft. i pay $1.60 AUD a litre for diesel.
Petrol prices ar buggered everywhere.. which makes me wonder.. why iraq?
wasn't freedom.. and based on evidence sure as bloody hell wasn't oil!
Worst yet, the way
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On Friday 11 April 2008 08:17:56 am Ron Johnson wrote:
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Depends on the country. In France, they pay less taxes, and with those
taxes they get college and
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We saw what happens under Reagan. It degenerates into the libertarian
dystopia we're approaching now.
I hate it when I agree with you...
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On 04/11/08 15:40, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
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your knowledge of Linux is very good. Your knowledge of economics is
not as good. The fact that China is sucking up all the oil they can buy
on the free market has nothing to do with
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 02:41:00PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 13:02, Kevin Mark wrote:
[snip]
Thunderbird is a brand of cheap alcohol mostly drunk by winos --bums. It
Shame on you for insinuating such a mean thing about the Differently
Drinking
the soberly impaired?
A
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 04:01:43PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote:
Just because
he's
dead now doesn't mean he didn't have good ideas that worked wonders,
contrary
to what Rush thinks.
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On 04/11/08 17:40, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 04:01:43PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
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Just because
he's
dead now doesn't
Paul Johnson wrote:
Health care would be a big one.
And taxes are much lower here, and the torte system so different,
and people so much more eager to sue.
Depends on the country. In France, they pay less taxes, and with
those taxes they get college and healthcare at no extra charge. We
On Friday 11 April 2008 01:40:05 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote:
The fact that China is sucking up all the oil they can buy on the free
market has nothing to do with $100/barrel, does it?
You are confusing correlation with causation. China's been industrializing
for the last 20 years now. Oil
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:22:10PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
That just violates basic economic principals, setting the price below the
balance of supply and demand, especially given we're talking about an
international commodities market and thus don't have the aboslute authority
to make
On Friday 11 April 2008 02:01:43 pm Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 08:17:56 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 10:03, Paul Johnson wrote:
[snip]
Depends on the country. In France, they pay less taxes, and with those
taxes they get
On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote:
It does? News to me. Again, study your history, longest un-interrupted
economic growth in the history of the US.
Reagan was still starring in movies or acting as the president of the labor
union he was a member of during much of
On Friday 11 April 2008 05:19:08 pm Mark Allums wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
Health care would be a big one.
And taxes are much lower here, and the torte system so different,
and people so much more eager to sue.
Depends on the country. In France, they pay less taxes, and with
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On 04/11/08 21:01, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote:
It does? News to me. Again, study your history, longest un-interrupted
economic growth in the history of the US.
Reagan was still starring in
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On 04/11/08 21:12, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 05:19:08 pm Mark Allums wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
Health care would be a big one.
And taxes are much lower here, and the torte system so different,
and people so much more
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On 04/11/08 20:37, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:22:10PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
That just violates basic economic principals, setting the price below the
balance of supply and demand, especially given we're talking
On Friday 11 April 2008 07:17:19 pm Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 21:01, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote:
It does? News to me. Again, study your history, longest un-interrupted
economic growth in the history of the US.
Reagan was still
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On 04/11/08 21:30, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 07:17:19 pm Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 21:01, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote:
It does? News to me. Again, study your history,
Paul Johnson wrote:
Eliminating all
corporate tax breaks would be a good idea, as well: After World War II,
corporations accounted for nearly 40% of US tax revenue, today it's less than
5%.
You are an idiot. Yes, corporate taxes are paid by corporations who pass
the the bill onto
On Fri April 11 2008 20:18:33 Steve Lamb wrote:
You are an idiot. Yes, corporate taxes are paid by corporations who
pass the the bill onto individuals. It was 0% before and its 0% now.
Individuals paid it then and individuals pay it now. You just want it back
because it's a secret tax
Mike Bird wrote:
You're mistaken Steve. Individuals pass on their tax costs to corporations
in the form of higher wage demands. Individual income tax should be zero.
Corporations should be taxed on their profits in order to pay for the
infrastucture and military necessary for corporations to
Ron Johnson wrote:
If only Canada had a nice place to dump spent nuclear fuel the way China
France doesn't have problems with spent nuclear fuel, because they
use breeder reactors. We should, too.
The problems with waste are slowly being solved, even without breeders.
But you make a good
On Friday 11 April 2008 08:52:10 pm Steve Lamb wrote:
Mike Bird wrote:
You're mistaken Steve. Individuals pass on their tax costs to
corporations in the form of higher wage demands. Individual income tax
should be zero. Corporations should be taxed on their profits in order to
pay for
On Friday 11 April 2008 10:10:22 pm Mark Allums wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
If only Canada had a nice place to dump spent nuclear fuel the way China
France doesn't have problems with spent nuclear fuel, because they
use breeder reactors. We should, too.
The problems with waste are slowly
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:14:00 +1200
Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Chris,
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 03:51:07PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
The Prisoner - Patrick McGoohan.
Congratulations.
10pts
Cheers, Chris.
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/ ) The blindingly obvious is
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote:
[snip]
What a deal! I bet ALL of the concerned parents will be sending BOTH
the difference
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On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote:
[snip]
On Thursday 10 April 2008 11:51:24 am Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote:
[snip]
What a deal! I
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 03:51:07PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 02:44:53 +1200
Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Chris,
No man is an Island. I'm not a number I'm a free man!
10pts for the program and the actor.
The Prisoner - Patrick McGoohan.
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:56:32AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
/The Prisoner/, Patrick McGoohan. Google makes this kind of thing
too easy.
Ooops
-1000pts
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