Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-24 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Lu, 23 ian 12, 15:55:04, lee wrote: Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: No, you don't need LVM and even the grub in squeeze can boot from md devices. Apparently it can´t boot from RAID on this laptop. I have tried a lot of

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-23 Thread lee
Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Jo, 19 ian 12, 01:20:18, lee wrote: Well, this laptop has two harddrives out of which I´ll make a software RAID-1. Last time I checked, installing and booting from a RAID was only possible by using LVM (and md), and the d/i of Testing was

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-23 Thread lee
Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Jo, 19 ian 12, 01:20:18, lee wrote: Well, this laptop has two harddrives out of which I´ll make a software RAID-1. Last time I checked, installing and booting from a RAID was only possible by using LVM (and md), and the d/i of Testing was

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 23 ian 12, 15:55:04, lee wrote: Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Jo, 19 ian 12, 01:20:18, lee wrote: Well, this laptop has two harddrives out of which I´ll make a software RAID-1. Last time I checked, installing and booting from a RAID was only possible by

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-19 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Have you thought of downloading and trying a Debian live install image (e.g., http://www.debian.org/CD/live/index.en.html )? With it you should be able to get a running system with internet connection and USB storage ability without touching the hard drive. In case something doesn't work with your

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Jo, 19 ian 12, 10:11:08, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: Have you thought of downloading and trying a Debian live install image (e.g., http://www.debian.org/CD/live/index.en.html )? With it you should be able to get a running system with internet connection and USB storage ability without

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Jo, 19 ian 12, 01:20:18, lee wrote: Well, this laptop has two harddrives out of which I´ll make a software RAID-1. Last time I checked, installing and booting from a RAID was only possible by using LVM (and md), and the d/i of Testing was able to do that pretty easily for me. No, you

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-19 Thread Chen Wei
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 09:49:49PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: Another alternative is to do the install on another machine, and then to move/clone the resulting partition. Most of my Debian installs were done by cloning an existing system rather than going through the debian-installation

how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread lee
Hi, how do I download the packages in the non-free section and make them useable by the Debian installer before starting the installation? The problem is installing Debian on a laptop with wireless only. So I need to dowload all the DVDs before starting the installation, and still the

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread Brian
On Wed 18 Jan 2012 at 19:58:25 +, lee wrote: how do I download the packages in the non-free section and make them useable by the Debian installer before starting the installation? You don't. The problem is installing Debian on a laptop with wireless only. So I need to dowload all

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-01-18 20:58 +0100, lee wrote: Hi, how do I download the packages in the non-free section and make them useable by the Debian installer before starting the installation? Download any needed packages on another computer and put them on a USB stick that you plug in when you install

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread lee
Sven Joachim wrote: On 2012-01-18 20:58 +0100, lee wrote: Hi, how do I download the packages in the non-free section and make them useable by the Debian installer before starting the installation? Download any needed packages on another computer and put them on a USB stick that you plug in

Fwd: Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread lee
Brian wrote: On Wed 18 Jan 2012 at 19:58:25 +, lee wrote: how do I download the packages in the non-free section and make them useable by the Debian installer before starting the installation? You don't. Then how do I get them? The problem is installing Debian on a laptop with

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 18 ian 12, 22:03:22, lee wrote: Will I be able to get the wireless working with the first DVD before making any changes to the hard disks? Network setup is before the partitioning step, at least you can stop if you can't get wireless working and start over. Hm, what´s the point

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-01-18 23:03 +0100, lee wrote: Sven Joachim wrote: On 2012-01-18 20:58 +0100, lee wrote: Hi, how do I download the packages in the non-free section and make them useable by the Debian installer before starting the installation? Download any needed packages on another computer and

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread Brian
On Wed 18 Jan 2012 at 22:03:22 +, lee wrote: Hm, what´s the point in having the firmware only and not the software to get the wireless card to work? Apparently, I need software from the non-free section which isn´t included on the DVDs, so having the firmware only get´s me no more than

Re: Fwd: Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread Brian
On Wed 18 Jan 2012 at 22:03:55 +, lee wrote: Then how do I get them? A misunderstanding on my part. I had visions of your wanting a considerable number of non-free packages! Apologies. All you need are the firmware files from a firmware-iwlwifi .deb or .tar.gz. Ok, and how do I set up a

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 19/01/12 06:58, lee wrote: Hi, how do I download the packages in the non-free section and make them useable by the Debian installer before starting the installation? snipped Easy[*1]:- # apt-get -d install example_package/s example_package/s will not be installed, but will be in

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 19/01/12 11:14, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 19/01/12 06:58, lee wrote: Hi, how do I download the packages in the non-free section and make them useable by the Debian installer before starting the installation? snipped Easy[*1]:- # apt-get -d install example_package/s Ignore that

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread lee
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mi, 18 ian 12, 22:03:22, lee wrote: Will I be able to get the wireless working with the first DVD before making any changes to the hard disks? Network setup is before the partitioning step, at least you can stop if you can't get wireless working and start over.

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread lee
Sven Joachim wrote: On 2012-01-18 23:03 +0100, lee wrote: Sven Joachim wrote: On 2012-01-18 20:58 +0100, lee wrote: Will I be able to get the wireless working with the first DVD before making any changes to the hard disks? If you want to get it working during installation, you have to

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread lee
Brian wrote: Please have a closer read of http://wiki.debian.org/iwlagn where it says iwlagn is a module produced by the iwlwifi Linux kernel driver, The module is the only software you need. It is free software. The firmware, on the other hand, isn't. Both together get you all

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread Brian
On Thu 19 Jan 2012 at 00:31:33 +, lee wrote: According to [1], I need the firmware-iwlwifi and wireless-tools packages from the non-free section. I could download them before starting the installation and might end up having to dowload more packages to resolve dependencies ...

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread lee
Scott Ferguson wrote: Ignore that noise - I heard installation as installation of packages *not* installation of the OS. Oh, ok :) Why you'd want to do instead of building from a netinstall CD (with any required firmware packages) is another question. However:- You 'could' use apt-zip[*1]

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread lee
Scott Ferguson wrote: Ignore that noise - I heard installation as installation of packages *not* installation of the OS. Oh, ok :) Why you'd want to do instead of building from a netinstall CD (with any required firmware packages) is another question. However:- You 'could' use apt-zip[*1]

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 19/01/12 12:19, lee wrote: Scott Ferguson wrote: Ignore that noise - I heard installation as installation of packages *not* installation of the OS. Oh, ok :) Why you'd want to do instead of building from a netinstall CD (with any required firmware packages) is another question.

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread lee
Scott Ferguson wrote: On 19/01/12 12:08, lee wrote: Scott Ferguson wrote: On 19/01/12 06:58, lee wrote: Hi, how do I download the packages in the non-free section and make them useable by the Debian installer before starting the installation? snipped Easy[*1]:- # apt-get -d install

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread Brian
On Thu 19 Jan 2012 at 00:51:56 +, lee wrote: Sven Joachim wrote: No, what makes you think so? There should be a driver for your card in the kernel, unless the device is too new. And it's only the firmware which is not free. The instructions on [1] make me think so. They tell me to

Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

2012-01-18 Thread Stefan Monnier
Most probably it's the firmware you require. This can be provided to d-i on a USB stick. Another alternative is to do the install on another machine, and then to move/clone the resulting partition. Most of my Debian installs were done by cloning an existing system rather than going through the