Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-04-08 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 4/7/20 6:48 PM, Charles Curley wrote: On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 13:14:54 -0700 Peter Ehlert wrote: now I clearly recall after visiting and reviewing the nextcloud documentation, that need for a designated server was the deal killer. Some sort of server is a good idea. It need not be the latest

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-04-08 Thread Curt
On 2020-04-08, Charles Curley wrote: >> >> that together with the apparent need for paid licensing for business >> use... not interested. > > I don't know where you got that idea. You certainly can get support for Having looked up this detail I think I know where he got that idea, because the E

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-04-07 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 13:14:54 -0700 Peter Ehlert wrote: > now I clearly recall after visiting and reviewing the nextcloud > documentation, that need for a designated server was the deal killer. Some sort of server is a good idea. It need not be the latest and greatest. I use a 13 year old retired

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-04-07 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 4/7/20 9:50 AM, Anastasios Lisgaras wrote: On 4/6/20 9:43 PM, Peter Ehlert wrote: independent software. He uses encryption on some files and folders and I don't. I don't know what software he uses. Perhaps syncthing has such a tool, I never looked for one. Ok, thanks! It would be very in

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-04-07 Thread Anastasios Lisgaras
On 4/6/20 9:43 PM, Peter Ehlert wrote: independent software. He uses encryption on some files and folders and I don't. I don't know what software he uses. Perhaps syncthing has such a tool, I never looked for one. Ok, thanks! It would be very interesting if it has a built-in encryption and de

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-04-06 Thread Peter Ehlert
I am sorry I was not more clear. Been under the weather. On 4/5/20 1:18 PM, Anastasios Lisgaras wrote: On 4/5/20 4:53 PM, Peter Ehlert wrote: I have not tried Nextcloud or ownCloud for a couple years. I only remember both being either too complex or missing the options I wanted. What options

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-04-05 Thread Anastasios Lisgaras
On 4/5/20 4:53 PM, Peter Ehlert wrote: I have not tried Nextcloud or ownCloud for a couple years. I only remember both being either too complex or missing the options I wanted. What options did you not have with the own/Nextloud ? [...] You can send the 56 character "device identification"

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-04-05 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 4/5/20 5:43 AM, Anastasios Lisgaras wrote: On 4/4/20 5:56 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: To add one data point for that: the most cases (by far) I've needed a backup is when I have deleted stuff by mistake. Close second is some buggy software having deleted or mangled files I've needed. Last [1

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-04-05 Thread Anastasios Lisgaras
On 4/4/20 5:56 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: To add one data point for that: the most cases (by far) I've needed a backup is when I have deleted stuff by mistake. Close second is some buggy software having deleted or mangled files I've needed. Last [1] come actual physical damage to storage media.

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-04-04 Thread Linux-Fan
Anastasios Lisgaras writes: [...] On 3/25/20 7:44 PM, Linux-Fan wrote: [...] * Network File Systems. [...] * "Cloud"-like file synchronization. [...] I really liked your *detailed* post! It really is a detailed and comprehensive answer. Thanks :) In my use case, I have both a sa

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-04-04 Thread Leslie Rhorer
I agree, absolutely. On 4/4/2020 9:56 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 01:12:33PM -, Curt wrote: [...] The problem arises when you "choose" to delete the wrong file by inadvertence; if you're only thinking "syncing," your sunk, but if you've backed up as well (and you a

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-04-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 04 apr 20, 15:01:48, Anastasios Lisgaras wrote: > > Syncthing seems more restrictive than Nextcloud because it does not > have the "cloud" (WEB UI) function offered by Nextcloud. > However, I would really like to try Syncthing to see what it really > offers and to be able to compare it wit

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-04-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 04 apr 20, 15:01:48, Anastasios Lisgaras wrote: > > In my use case, I have both a safe and a secure remote server machine (VM) > and a raspberry Pi at my home to run continuously & incessantly 24/7. > I have three computers. One at work a laptop and a desktop computer. > What I want is for

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-04-04 Thread tomas
On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 01:12:33PM -, Curt wrote: [...] > The problem arises when you "choose" to delete the wrong file by > inadvertence; if you're only thinking "syncing," your sunk, but if > you've backed up as well (and you ain't pell-mell), you're still looking > swell. To add one data

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-04-04 Thread Curt
On 2020-04-04, Anastasios Lisgaras wrote: > On 3/25/20 11:07 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> If a file is corrupted, deleted, etc. in one place that will be >> propagated to all copies. >> >> Depending on the features provided by the synchronisation tool they >> could be *a part* of a backup solutio

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-04-04 Thread Anastasios Lisgaras
On 3/25/20 11:07 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: If a file is corrupted, deleted, etc. in one place that will be propagated to all copies. Depending on the features provided by the synchronisation tool they could be *a part* of a backup solution. See http://taobackup.com for what a complete backup so

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-03-25 Thread Linux-Fan
Patrick Scribus writes: Hello, two of my computers have a similar role as desktop. The installed packages are nearly the same, the configuration is nearly the same and the stored data in /home also. Especially the texts, the pictures and the like require too much time and effort to keep in sync

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-03-25 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 11:07:36 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Tools for keeping data in sync are often mistaken for a backup > solution, which they are not. > > If a file is corrupted, deleted, etc. in one place that will be > propagated to all copies. > > Depending on the features provided by th

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-03-25 Thread deloptes
Dan Purgert wrote: > I don't think he meant to imply using external-to-you "cloud" providers > (gdrive, dropbox), but rather creating his own personal "cloud". exactly - thank you

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-03-25 Thread Dan Purgert
On Mar 25, 2020, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 23:50:00 +0100 > deloptes wrote: > > > Patrick Scribus wrote: > > > > > What do you guys > > > use for similar tasks? > > > > I guess from share to a cloud. > > > > I spent a lot of time in phone sync via bluetooth (calendar, > > contacts, to

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-03-25 Thread Joe
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 23:50:00 +0100 deloptes wrote: > Patrick Scribus wrote: > > > What do you guys > > use for similar tasks? > > I guess from share to a cloud. > > I spent a lot of time in phone sync via bluetooth (calendar, > contacts, todos and notes). > > The PC does not have any data o

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-03-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 25 mar 20, 09:55:25, Anastasios Lisgaras wrote: > > On 3/25/20 7:31 AM, Charles Curley wrote: > > Concur on Syncthing. Since it is near-instantaneous, so are oopses. For > > that I use rsnapshot. > > > > Some other thoughts on backups. > > http://charlescurley.com/blog/posts/2019/Nov/02/ba

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-03-25 Thread Anastasios Lisgaras
On 3/25/20 7:31 AM, Charles Curley wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:26:31 -0500 Mark Allums wrote: Syncthing. https://syncthing.net/ For the history: Resilio (formerly BitTorrent Sync) was a very good *proprietary* software tool. However, after a while, it was developed by an awesome team t

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-03-24 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:26:31 -0500 Mark Allums wrote: > Syncthing. > > https://syncthing.net/ Concur on Syncthing. Since it is near-instantaneous, so are oopses. For that I use rsnapshot. Some other thoughts on backups. http://charlescurley.com/blog/posts/2019/Nov/02/backups-on-linux/ -- Doe

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-03-24 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/24/20 4:05 PM, Patrick Scribus wrote: Hello, two of my computers have a similar role as desktop. The installed packages are nearly the same, the configuration is nearly the same and the stored data in /home also. Especially the texts, the pictures and the like require too much time and effo

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-03-24 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 3/24/20 3:14 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 24 mar 20, 22:05:40, Patrick Scribus wrote: Hello, two of my computers have a similar role as desktop. The installed packages are nearly the same, the configuration is nearly the same and the stored data in /home also. Especially the texts, the

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-03-24 Thread der.hans
Am 24. Mar, 2020 schwätzte Patrick Scribus so: moin moin Patrick, Hello, two of my computers have a similar role as desktop. The installed packages are nearly the same, the configuration is nearly the same and the stored data in /home also. Especially the texts, the pictures and the like requi

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-03-24 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-03-24 14:05, Patrick Scribus wrote: Hello, two of my computers have a similar role as desktop. The installed packages are nearly the same, the configuration is nearly the same and the stored data in /home also. Especially the texts, the pictures and the like require too much time and eff

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-03-24 Thread deloptes
Patrick Scribus wrote: > What do you guys > use for similar tasks? I guess from share to a cloud. I spent a lot of time in phone sync via bluetooth (calendar, contacts, todos and notes). The PC does not have any data on it - there is a share. From outside - VPN to the share. Keep your data at

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-03-24 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 24 mar 20, 22:05:40, Patrick Scribus wrote: > Hello, > > two of my computers have a similar role as desktop. The installed > packages are nearly the same, the configuration is nearly the same and > the stored data in /home also. Especially the texts, the pictures and > the like require too

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-03-24 Thread Brian Sammon
I've been using Unison (https://packages.debian.org/buster/unison-gtk -- there's also a commandline package) for quite a few years (a decade?) now. It works well.

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-03-24 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 22:05:40 +0100 Patrick Scribus wrote: Hello Patrick, >But I hope for a solution that automates this Would setting up a cron job to run your script do? -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" It's o

how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

2020-03-24 Thread Patrick Scribus
Hello, two of my computers have a similar role as desktop. The installed packages are nearly the same, the configuration is nearly the same and the stored data in /home also. Especially the texts, the pictures and the like require too much time and effort to keep in sync. At first I wrote a littl