Re: how to put packages on hold -- permanently

2009-12-31 Thread Javier Barroso
Hi, On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: Andrei Popescu put forth on 12/30/2009 3:41 AM: I prefer to ask dpkg about installed packages, it should know best ;) I find the aptitude show results more useful.  I have no idea what the first three lines of

Re: how to put packages on hold -- permanently

2009-12-30 Thread Lukas Ruf
Dear all sorry for being off thread. Thanks for your help. The hint by Andrei solved my problem. In /etc/apt/preferences, I marked the packages as Prio *-1*: Package: nano Pin: release testing Pin-Priority: -1 Package: aptitude Pin: release testing Pin-Priority: -1 Package:

Re: how to put packages on hold -- permanently

2009-12-30 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Robert David put forth on 12/29/2009 5:20 PM: I dont understand why so many people today use pure apt-get for everyday package management. I started using aptitude after upgrading from Etch to Lenny. I now use it exclusively instead of apt-*. It's much more powerful and user friendly, and

Re: how to put packages on hold -- permanently

2009-12-30 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,30.Dec.09, 03:32:02, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Robert David put forth on 12/29/2009 5:20 PM: I dont understand why so many people today use pure apt-get for everyday package management. I started using aptitude after upgrading from Etch to Lenny. I now use it exclusively instead of

Aptitude (was: how to put packages on hold -- permanently)

2009-12-30 Thread Teemu Likonen
On 2009-12-30 03:32 (-0600), Stan Hoeppner wrote: I started using aptitude after upgrading from Etch to Lenny. I now use it exclusively instead of apt-*. It's much more powerful and user friendly, and the package search function returns more relevant and limited results. For instance :/$

Re: how to put packages on hold -- permanently

2009-12-30 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Andrei Popescu put forth on 12/30/2009 3:41 AM: I prefer to ask dpkg about installed packages, it should know best ;) I find the aptitude show results more useful. I have no idea what the first three lines of the dpkg -l output below are trying to tell me. :/# dpkg -l postfix

dpkg -l output (was: how to put packages on hold -- permanently)

2009-12-30 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 04:13:43 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: [...] I have no idea what the first three lines of the dpkg -l output below are trying to tell me. :/# dpkg -l postfix Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold |

Re: how to put packages on hold -- permanently

2009-12-30 Thread Consultores Agropecuarios
El mié, 30-12-2009 a las 00:20 +0100, Robert David escribió: Did you consider using aptitude as your main package manager?? It will solve these problems easily. I just hold packages that I need to be hold and aptitude works great. I dont understand why so many people today use pure

Re: how to put packages on hold -- permanently

2009-12-30 Thread Javier Barroso
Hi, On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Consultores Agropecuarios consultor...@gmail.com wrote: El mié, 30-12-2009 a las 00:20 +0100, Robert David escribió: Did you consider using aptitude as your main package manager?? It will solve these problems easily. I just hold packages that I need to be

Re: how to put packages on hold -- permanently

2009-12-30 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-12-30 21:46 +0100, Javier Barroso wrote: safe-upgrade == aptitude won't install any new package, only will upgrade your packages to newer versions when it won't require installing new dependencies, which are less buggy generally than older. Sorry, this is completely wrong. Actually

Re: how to put packages on hold -- permanently

2009-12-30 Thread Javier Barroso
Hi, On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote: On 2009-12-30 21:46 +0100, Javier Barroso wrote: safe-upgrade == aptitude won't install any new package, only will upgrade your packages to newer versions when it won't require installing new dependencies, which are

Re: how to put packages on hold -- permanently

2009-12-30 Thread Consultores Agropecuarios
El mié, 30-12-2009 a las 21:46 +0100, Javier Barroso escribió: Hi, On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Consultores Agropecuarios consultor...@gmail.com wrote: El mié, 30-12-2009 a las 00:20 +0100, Robert David escribió: Did you consider using aptitude as your main package manager?? It will

Re: how to put packages on hold -- permanently

2009-12-30 Thread lego12239
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 04:13:43AM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Andrei Popescu put forth on 12/30/2009 3:41 AM: I prefer to ask dpkg about installed packages, it should know best ;) I find the aptitude show results more useful. I have no idea what the first three lines of the dpkg -l

how to put packages on hold -- permanently

2009-12-29 Thread Lukas Ruf
Dear all Some packges, for example nano, tasksel, aptitude or texlive-pstricks-doc, I do not want to have installed. However, when I set them on hold by echo nano hold | dpkg --set-selections echo tasksel hold | dpkg --set-selections echo aptitude hold | dpkg --set-selections echo

Re: how to put packages on hold -- permanently

2009-12-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue,29.Dec.09, 23:21:51, Lukas Ruf wrote: Dear all Some packges, for example nano, tasksel, aptitude or texlive-pstricks-doc, I do not want to have installed. [...] Is there anywhere a setting that I can make dselect and apt-get obey to my hold-settings permanently? You could pin

Re: how to put packages on hold -- permanently

2009-12-29 Thread Javier Barroso
Hi, On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Lukas Ruf r...@rawip.org wrote: Dear all Some packges, for example nano, tasksel, aptitude or texlive-pstricks-doc, I do not want to have installed. However, when I set them on hold by  echo nano hold | dpkg --set-selections  echo tasksel hold | dpkg

Re: how to put packages on hold -- permanently

2009-12-29 Thread Robert David
Did you consider using aptitude as your main package manager?? It will solve these problems easily. I just hold packages that I need to be hold and aptitude works great. I dont understand why so many people today use pure apt-get for everyday package management. Robert. Dne Út 29. prosince

Re: how to put packages on hold -- permanently

2009-12-29 Thread Mark
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Robert David robert.david.pub...@gmail.com wrote: I dont understand why so many people today use pure apt-get for everyday package management. Robert. Probably because lots of official Debian on-line help says to use apt-get (such as