Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-20 Thread listcomm
You guys are all overlooking the obvious. All that is required to completely destroy every bit of data on a disk drive so that it cannot possibly be retrieved, is to make sure the drive is completely filled with absolutely vital data that has not been backed up anywhere. That will guarantee with

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-19 Thread H. S.
Apparently, _H. S._, on 07/18/04 13:02,typed: I am in a situation where a computer is to be given away and prior to Any suggestions? Or any alternate methods? Then there is also the option of using a Windows programs to do this. But I am familiar with those. thanks ->HS I am very grateful for

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-19 Thread John Summerfield
H. S. wrote: I am in a situation where a computer is to be given away and prior to that it's hard disk needs to *thoroughly* cleaned (data consists of financial information, reports, class exams, competition exams, etc). :-) Face it. If you run Windows and I want your data, I have it:-)) -- Ch

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-19 Thread HdV
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, H. S. wrote: > > I am in a situation where a computer is to be given away and prior to > that it's hard disk needs to *thoroughly* cleaned (data consists of > financial information, reports, class exams, competition exams, etc). > > One method I have found on google is: > $>dd

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-19 Thread Marco Adurno
what about dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hdX ? Martin Dickopp wrote: Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:10:39 -0600, Doug Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sunday 18 July 2004 11:52 am, Frank Gevaerts wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 01:02:17PM -0400, H. S. wrote: I am in

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-19 Thread Martin Dickopp
Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:10:39 -0600, Doug Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sunday 18 July 2004 11:52 am, Frank Gevaerts wrote: >> > On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 01:02:17PM -0400, H. S. wrote: >> > > I am in a situation where a computer is to be given awa

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-18 Thread Doug Holland
On Sunday 18 July 2004 9:05 pm, Tim Connors wrote: > Now, there's a thought. > > You better destroy that drive afterall. If the drive had any bad > blocks, and these were transparently remapped (as they do), then you > can't tell that there have been remapping events (maybe SMART will > tell you...

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-18 Thread Tim Connors
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Mon, 19 Jul 2004 05:27:58 +0800: > H. S. wrote: > > Any suggestions? Or any alternate methods? Then there is also the > > option of using a Windows programs to do this. But I am familiar with > > those. > > Unscientifically proven: a destructive badbl

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-18 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 08:59:38PM -0400, Silvan wrote: > On Sunday 18 July 2004 06:52 pm, Doug Holland wrote: > > > If the answer is yes (usually we're talking about government contractors > > with classified data), then the only answer is to physically destroy the > > hard disk's platters. > >

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-18 Thread Silvan
On Sunday 18 July 2004 06:52 pm, Doug Holland wrote: > If the answer is yes (usually we're talking about government contractors > with classified data), then the only answer is to physically destroy the > hard disk's platters. Yeah, and I guess at that you'd have to *really* destroy the platters.

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-18 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:02:17 -0400 "H. S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I am in a situation where a computer is to be given away and prior to >that it's hard disk needs to *thoroughly* cleaned (data consists of >financial information, reports, class exams, competition exams, etc). > >One method

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-18 Thread Doug Holland
On Sunday 18 July 2004 4:25 pm, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:10:39 -0600, Doug Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 18 July 2004 11:52 am, Frank Gevaerts wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 01:02:17PM -0400, H. S. wrote: > > > > I am in a situation where a computer is to

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-18 Thread Ed G.
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:10:39 -0600, Doug Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 18 July 2004 11:52 am, Frank Gevaerts wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 01:02:17PM -0400, H. S. wrote: > > Try http://dban.sourceforge.net/ > > I second this suggestion. DBAN (short for Darik's Boot n' Nuke wi

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-18 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:10:39 -0600, Doug Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 18 July 2004 11:52 am, Frank Gevaerts wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 01:02:17PM -0400, H. S. wrote: > > > I am in a situation where a computer is to be given away and prior to > > > that it's hard disk needs

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-18 Thread Doug Holland
On Sunday 18 July 2004 11:52 am, Frank Gevaerts wrote: > On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 01:02:17PM -0400, H. S. wrote: > > I am in a situation where a computer is to be given away and prior to > > that it's hard disk needs to *thoroughly* cleaned (data consists of > > financial information, reports, class

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-18 Thread John Summerfield
H. S. wrote: I am in a situation where a computer is to be given away and prior to that it's hard disk needs to *thoroughly* cleaned (data consists of financial information, reports, class exams, competition exams, etc). One method I have found on google is: $>dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda to clea

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-18 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Carl Fink (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 09:36:24PM +0200, Andreas Janssen wrote: > >> As far as I know this does not work reliably with journaled file >> systems like ext3 ... > > I'm quite far from being an expert, but can't you convert ext3 to ext2 > just by del

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-18 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 09:36:24PM +0200, Andreas Janssen wrote: > As far as I know this does not work reliably with journaled file systems > like ext3 ... I'm quite far from being an expert, but can't you convert ext3 to ext2 just by deleting the journal? -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PR

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-18 Thread Philipp Weis
On 18 Jul 2004, Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 18 Jul 2004, H. S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I am in a situation where a computer is to be given away and prior to > >> that it's hard disk needs to *thoroughly* cleaned (data consists of > >> financial information, reports, cl

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-18 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Philipp Weis (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > On 18 Jul 2004, H. S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I am in a situation where a computer is to be given away and prior to >> that it's hard disk needs to *thoroughly* cleaned (data consists of >> financial information, reports, class exams, compet

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-18 Thread John Hasler
HS writes: > The second method that I have read is to delete everything from the disk > and then write a large file (how to get his? random data?) repeatedly and > fill the disk. Then remove these files with 'wipe'. Too complex. Just use Wipe on /dev/hda (or just on the partitions containing sens

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-18 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 01:02:17PM -0400, H. S. wrote: > > I am in a situation where a computer is to be given away and prior to > that it's hard disk needs to *thoroughly* cleaned (data consists of > financial information, reports, class exams, competition exams, etc). Try http://dban.sourcefo

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-18 Thread Philipp Weis
On 18 Jul 2004, H. S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am in a situation where a computer is to be given away and prior to > that it's hard disk needs to *thoroughly* cleaned (data consists of > financial information, reports, class exams, competition exams, etc). Wipe was designed for this. It re

how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-18 Thread H. S.
I am in a situation where a computer is to be given away and prior to that it's hard disk needs to *thoroughly* cleaned (data consists of financial information, reports, class exams, competition exams, etc). One method I have found on google is: $>dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda to clean the first d