Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Clive Menzies
clients. I use kmail and filter lists direct to their own folders, where I set the reply-to-list address to try to prevent myself making mistakes... À propos, I've been thinking of giving mutt a try: can it do that too? I don't think I could cope with the volume of mail without mutt ;) You set

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread p
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 11:34:25AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: I'm going to attempt to make this a polite question, rather than a rant or flame ... For those of you who CC people when responding to the mailing list, why do you do this? Is there some benefit to doing so of which I'm

RE: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Joyce, Matthew
the debian-user addy too. I am on other lists, and 'reply' will use the list address for them. Those messages have, among others, the following headers set to the posting address for that list. Resent-From: X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: Reply-To: List-Post: I do not know which makes outlook work

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Monique Y. Herman said on Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 11:34:25AM -0700: I'm going to attempt to make this a polite question, rather than a rant or flame ... Huzzah! Polite questions are gold. For those of you who CC people when responding to the mailing list, why do you do this? Is there some

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Erik Steffl
lists direct to their own folders, where I set the reply-to-list address to try to prevent myself making mistakes... À propos, I've been thinking of giving mutt a try: can it do that too? yes, you can set up a list of list email addresses and then hit (IIRC) L to reply to the list erik

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
simpler mail clients. If the tool doesn't work, get one that does. It's not like options aren't available or are overpriced. | I use kmail and filter lists direct to | their own folders, where I set the reply-to-list address to try to prevent | myself making mistakes... | | À propos, I've been

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Tuesday 28 October 2003 22:37, Richard Lyons wrote: Apparently not.  I wonder why not.  It would surely be a good idea  - for those using simpler mail clients.  I use kmail and filter lists direct to their own folders, where I set the reply-to-list address to try to prevent myself making

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 at 22:18 GMT, Kjetil Kjernsmo penned: I can't agree. For a review of the opposing viewpoints, see http://marc.merlins.org/perso/listreplyto.html I've been in both camps, but I have now settled for the harmful camp. I've been to too many mailing lists with reply-tos

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 at 22:03 GMT, Mark Ferlatte penned: [snip] Most of the people who have this problem, I believe, have the technical abi= lity to setup such a filter, and for reasons that I don't understand choose not = to do so and instead depend upon the charity of the mailing list

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread David Palmer.
- for those using simpler mail clients. I use kmail and filter lists direct to their own folders, where I set the reply-to-list address to try to prevent myself making mistakes... À propos, I've been thinking of giving mutt a try: can it do that too? And another thing: all those

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Bill Moseley
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 11:34:25AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: I'm going to attempt to make this a polite question, rather than a rant or flame ... For those of you who CC people when responding to the mailing list, why do you do this? Is there some benefit to doing so of which I'm

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Monique Y. Herman said on Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 03:41:56PM -0700: On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 at 22:03 GMT, Mark Ferlatte penned: [snip] Most of the people who have this problem, I believe, have the technical abi= lity to setup such a filter, and for reasons that I don't understand choose not =

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 03:36:47PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: | But then I have to ask -- do some clients automagically CC the poster, | or are people going to the trouble of CCing manually? I forget who already mentioned it this time around, but it is automatic. Some mail clients aren't

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Monique Y. Herman
not. I wonder why not. It would surely be a good idea - for those using simpler mail clients. I use kmail and filter lists direct to their own folders, where I set the reply-to-list address to try to prevent myself making mistakes... À propos, I've been thinking of giving mutt a try: can

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 at 23:19 GMT, Bill Moseley penned: On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 11:34:25AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: I'm going to attempt to make this a polite question, rather than a rant or flame ... For those of you who CC people when responding to the mailing list, why do you do

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 at 23:38 GMT, Mark Ferlatte penned: =20 Whoa. Where did all of those `=3D' chars come from? Dunno. I see them on some of the messages I receive. And then again just now in the text you quoted. Something about slrn not handling quoted-printable multi-part messages

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Bill Moseley wrote: I cc, but luckily my mailer mutt understands what you want. That's good because I can't keep track of what the hundreds (thousands?) of people on this list wish, and not all of them have smart mailers to set the Mail-Followup-To header. You don't have to, the onus is on

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Mark Ferlatte wrote: Most of the people who have this problem, I believe, have the technical ability to setup such a filter, and for reasons that I don't understand choose not to do so and instead depend upon the charity of the mailing list posters to cater to their reply whims. This, to me,

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Monique Y. Herman wrote: For those of you who CC people when responding to the mailing list, why do you do this? Is there some benefit to doing so of which I'm unaware? None. They just like breaking the CoC for these mailing lists. http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct item #9

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: Monique Y. Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 13:30 Subject: Re: netiquette: CCing on lists On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 at 19:12 GMT, David Gaudine penned: On Tuesday, October 28, 2003, at 01:34 PM, Monique Y. Herman

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Monique Y. Herman said on Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 05:00:29PM -0700: Something about slrn not handling quoted-printable multi-part messages properly, I believe. I don't know the meaning of what I just said, but that's what I've been told. I guess I could write a vim script to clean it up on

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Bill Moseley
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 04:51:14PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: You don't have to, the onus is on them to ask, explicitly, in the body of the message that they want a CC. If they don't ask and you don't send that is their problem. But sending a CC unasked you're causing unasked work

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
kind of annoyance that spam was, what, 7 years ago? Oh, just hit delete every now and again... Rude is rude. The other part is, like it or not, on these lists it is also a matter of accepted conduct codified on the web page people should read before subscribing. So those who do find it rude

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Steve Lamb wrote: Mark Ferlatte wrote: Most of the people who have this problem, I believe, have the technical ability to setup such a filter, and for reasons that I don't understand choose not to do so and instead depend upon the charity of the mailing list posters to cater to their reply

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Roberto Sanchez wrote: You have a point. However, I usually make an exception in the case of newbies becuase they may not receive list messages (because of Yahoo! or Hotmail spam filtering for such accounts). I know I had this problem when I first subscribed to the list. But otherwise, I tend

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Ron Jr
On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 17:10, David Palmer. wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:37:49 +0100 Richard Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 28 October 2003 20:30, Monique Y. Herman wrote: [...] Hrm.. Does debian-user not set the reply-to to the list, or is this my [...] [snip] --

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread David Palmer.
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:28:12 -0600 Ron Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 17:10, David Palmer. wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:37:49 +0100 Richard Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 28 October 2003 20:30, Monique Y. Herman wrote: [...] Hrm.. Does debian-user

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 02:12:28PM -0500, David Gaudine wrote: With this mail program (the default Mac mail program, which I've not used much), when I click reply it's your address that gets used. I manually changed it in my earlier followup

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 10:37:49PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: And another thing: all those spamassassin headers are resent to the list. Seems a waste of bandwidth... Murphy is running spamassassin, IIRC. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson [EMAIL

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 05:12:42PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: mutt is _very_ powerful; at this point I use enough of its advanced features and have enough keystrokes ingrained in my fingers that I can't really handle mail (certainly not

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Paul Johnson
function. In those mail clients, the user only has the choice of reply or reply-to-all. These are considered harmful for use on mailing lists. File a bug. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do

Re: Please permanently block *@lists.debian.org from your mailing lists: [info@bairestrade.com: canned peach in syrup x 850 grs.]

2003-10-21 Thread Pascal Hakim
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:34:50AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: Bairestrade: Someone is apparently subscribing one or more mailing lists at @lists.debian.org to your mailing lists. These relate to a computer-related project, the Debian GNU/Linux distribution, which has no interest in your

Please permanently block *@lists.debian.org from your mailing lists: [info@bairestrade.com: canned peach in syrup x 850 grs.]

2003-10-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
Bairestrade: Someone is apparently subscribing one or more mailing lists at @lists.debian.org to your mailing lists. These relate to a computer-related project, the Debian GNU/Linux distribution, which has no interest in your mailing lists. This has been reported to several spam reporting

Reading Package Lists... Error!

2003-10-08 Thread Quim Gil
Actualitzant la llista de paquets disponible amb el dselect... va fent tota la baixada dels llistats actualitzats però al final em surt aquest missatge d'error: Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occured while processing selfhtml (NewPackage) E: Problem

Re: Reading Package Lists... Error!

2003-10-08 Thread Quim Gil
Gràcies per la ràpida resposta. has d'afegir la seguent linia a /etc/apt/apt.conf APT::Cache-Limit 1000; (o un numero similarment gran). Mmmm no tinc un /etc/apt/apt.conf a /etc/apt/ només hi ha el sources.list i un subdirectori /etc/apt/apt.conf.d on s'hi troba un 70debconf que

Re: Reading Package Lists... Error!

2003-10-08 Thread Quim Gil
echo APT::Cache-Limit 1000 /etc/apt/apt.conf Ja està resolt. Faltava un punt i coma al final, però ja ho he deduït per l'anterior instrucció. Quedem llavors en que echo APT::Cache-Limit 1000; /etc/apt/apt.conf Moltes gràcies. Quim

Questions about using the mailing lists

2003-10-08 Thread Yuen Sum Ng
Dear everyone, I have used the debian mailing lists using yahoo mail services as the email account receiving the mails for several months. However, a fewer weeks ago, I cannot receive any mails from debian-user mailing lists. I do not know why this happen, but i have not accidentially set

Re: Questions about using the mailing lists

2003-10-08 Thread J Y
the list several times.So you're not the only one this happens to. Maybe someone will look into what's really happening? Quoting Yuen Sum Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear everyone, I have used the debian mailing lists using yahoo mail services as the email account receiving the mails for several

unsubscribe from lists

2003-09-30 Thread David Hartman
Kim A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men. ~Willy Wonka There's a little witch in all of us - Practical Magic I'm not a Bad Witch, I'm a Grumpy Witch attachment: winmail.dat

debian lists have no nomail option

2003-08-25 Thread Dan Jacobson
I was surprised to find that some debian lists require a subscription to post, but have no nomail option. This means e.g. gmane.org users will get a copy of each message, even though they've already read them. For modem users, for the privilege of posting one message, one must get one's POP box

Re: debian lists have no nomail option

2003-08-25 Thread Travis Crump
Dan Jacobson wrote: I was surprised to find that some debian lists require a subscription to post, but have no nomail option. Umm, which debian lists require a subscription in order to post? pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: debian lists have no nomail option

2003-08-25 Thread Travis Crump
Travis Crump wrote: Dan Jacobson wrote: I was surprised to find that some debian lists require a subscription to post, but have no nomail option. Umm, which debian lists require a subscription in order to post? never mind, I figured it out(some==2, debian-chinese-(big5|gb) and debian-ctte, both

Re: Bug#206959: debian lists have no nomail option

2003-08-25 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:17:47AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: This means e.g. gmane.org users will get a copy of each message, even though they've already read them. No, it doesn't. Try thinking about what it means when the web page says This list is not moderated, posting is allowed to

bounced mail mailing lists ???

2003-07-06 Thread Michael D. Schleif
My web hosting service lost the aliases file, and mail was bounced back to senders for user unknown. It is fixed now; but, I am unclear on mailing list response to this situation? Will the bounced messages be re-sent? Are they lost forever? What do you think? -- Best Regards, mds mds

Re: Mail lists lots of headers but mozilla does not see any imap mail (solved)

2003-06-24 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 04:53:34PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Thanks Derrick, your directions were a great help. | | The weirdest thing is that Netscape seems to tell IMAP daemon | where folders are, I think. Yes, that's the way the IMAP protocol is defined. | I only entered the IMAP

Re: Mail lists lots of headers but mozilla does not see any imapmail (solved)

2003-06-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks Derrick, your directions were a great help. The weirdest thing is that Netscape seems to tell IMAP daemon where folders are, I think. I only entered the IMAP directory in Netscape and then the IMAP daemon somehow picked this up and started serving the files that I had placed in that

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-19 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 06:31:36PM +0200, Dennis Stosberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: J?rgen A.Erhard wrote: What I'm looking for is a way to tell a mail filtering tool how to automatically sort mails from mailing lists. Just two days ago Sascha Andres has announced on [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-19 Thread Joseph Zaino
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 06:31:36PM +0200, Dennis Stosberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: J?rgen A.Erhard wrote: What I'm looking for is a way to tell a mail filtering tool how to automatically sort mails from mailing lists. Just two days ago Sascha Andres has

Re: Mail lists lots of headers but mozilla does not see any imap mail

2003-06-18 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 06:19:36PM -0700, J F wrote: | root:/var/log# pwd | /var/log | root:/var/log# egrep imap daemon.log | ... | Jun 16 17:49:23 a1700xp imapd[978]: connect from a1700xp.ebeb.com | Jun 16 17:49:23 a1700xp imapd[978]: error: cannot execute /usr/sbin/imapd: | No such file or

Re: Mail lists lots of headers but mozilla does not see any imap mail

2003-06-16 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 01:01:38PM -0700, J F wrote: | It even responds sort of: | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc# telnet 10.0.0.9 143 | Trying 10.0.0.9... | Connected to 10.0.0.9. | Escape character is '^]'. | ((It pauses a few seconds and then)) | Connection closed by foreign host. Apparently

Re: Mail lists lots of headers but mozilla does not see any imapmail

2003-06-16 Thread J F
root:/var/log# pwd /var/log root:/var/log# egrep imap daemon.log ... Jun 16 17:49:23 a1700xp imapd[978]: connect from a1700xp.ebeb.com Jun 16 17:49:23 a1700xp imapd[978]: error: cannot execute /usr/sbin/imapd: No such file or directory root:/var/log#apt-get update root:/var/log#

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-15 Thread Will Trillich
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 08:22:37AM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 05:58:50PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: Try this to identify all the Debian mailing lists in one whack: # Debian lists ... :0: * ^X-Mailing-List: .*[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] * ^X-Mailing-List

Mail lists lots of headers but mozilla does not see any imap mail

2003-06-14 Thread J F
Mail lists lots of headers but mozilla does not see any imap mail. ~$ mail Mail version 8.1.2 01/15/2001. Type ? for help. /var/mail/jf: 118 messages 118 new N 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jun 14 11:52 192/12701 Time Sensitive Information Regarding your ATTBI E-mail Account ... I can see imap

Re: Mail lists lots of headers but mozilla does not see any imapmail

2003-06-14 Thread J F
hard disk install. Thanks in advance, J F J F wrote: Mail lists lots of headers but mozilla does not see any imap mail. ~$ mail Mail version 8.1.2 01/15/2001. Type ? for help. /var/mail/jf: 118 messages 118 new N 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jun 14 11:52 192/12701 Time Sensitive Information Regarding

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-05 Thread David Fokkema
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 01:21:08PM +0100, Hugh Saunders wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 12:40:17PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:41:37AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Or maybe it's easier to just lobby the various MLM authors to add List-Id? If so, where could I

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-05 Thread Dennis Stosberg
Jürgen A.Erhard wrote: What I'm looking for is a way to tell a mail filtering tool how to automatically sort mails from mailing lists. Just two days ago Sascha Andres has announced on [EMAIL PROTECTED] that he started to host a list of procmail recipes for mailing lists. At the moment

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-05 Thread Marc Wilson
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:37:58PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: So they do... The other List headers are included. Oh well... Try this to identify all the Debian mailing lists in one whack: # Debian lists ... :0: * ^X-Mailing-List: .*[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] * ^X-Mailing-List: .*[] *\/[^ [EMAIL

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-05 Thread David Fokkema
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 05:58:50PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:37:58PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: So they do... The other List headers are included. Oh well... Try this to identify all the Debian mailing lists in one whack: # Debian lists ... :0: * ^X-Mailing

How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread Jürgen A . Erhard
Hi list. [Please CC: me on list replies, I'm too far behind in ML traffic. Thank you.] I've googled every which way I can, but I didn't find it. It being a list of identifying markers for various mailing lists. What I'm looking for is a way to tell a mail filtering tool how to automatically

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread Kevin Mark
already have wishlist bugs to support RFC2919, but if you find any that don't it's probably a good idea to file one. btw, I filter debian lists via X-Mailing-List: . good times, Vineet -- http://www.doorstop.net/ -- Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 09:43:59PM +0200, J?rgen A.Erhard wrote: What I'm looking for is a way to tell a mail filtering tool how to automatically sort mails from mailing lists. I use, in order of preference, the List-id, X-Mailing-List

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread David Fokkema
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:41:37AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Or maybe it's easier to just lobby the various MLM authors to add List-Id? If so, where could I find a list of MLMs and their respective authors? When you find a list that doesn't, point out the RFC and ask the list operator

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 12:40:17PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: Er... is debian-user using List-Id? I don't seem to be able to locate it in the headers... Might be my eyes, of course, ;-) http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=78237 They

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 12:40:17PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:41:37AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Or maybe it's easier to just lobby the various MLM authors to add List-Id? If so, where could I find a list of MLMs and their respective authors? When you

Re: lists vs. subscribe (was Re: mutt to follow discussions.)

2003-05-31 Thread moseley
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 10:04:32AM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: Not a doc bug -- that part of the documentation is immediately created from the relevant program code. But, of course, the Debian package may unset use_domain in the systemwide configuration file /etc/Muttrc. That's exactly

Re: lists vs. subscribe (was Re: mutt to follow discussions.)

2003-05-30 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2003-05-25 13:23:32 -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote: I'm trying to figure this out myself. In particular, it looks like there might be a bug in either the documentation or (I hope) mutt 1.4. The documentation says that the ~l pattern matches messages to known lists (anything matched

Re: lists vs. subscribe (was Re: mutt to follow discussions.)

2003-05-30 Thread Bill Moseley
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 02:39:13PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: The logic for the mail-followup-to header is a little more complicated, and involves both subscribed and known lists. First of all, mutt will only generate a mail-followup-to header if (1) the $followup_to option is set

Re: lists vs. subscribe (was Re: mutt to follow discussions.)

2003-05-30 Thread Bill Moseley
On a related note: I noticed that my reply had: Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian users list [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mutt users list [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not my address. I didn't have $hostname set in my .muttrc so I assume it set the Mail-Followup-To:

Re: lists vs. subscribe (was Re: mutt to follow discussions.)

2003-05-30 Thread Bill Moseley
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 01:40:51PM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote: On a related note: I noticed that my reply had: Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian users list [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mutt users list [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not my address. I didn't have

Re: lists vs. subscribe (was Re: mutt to follow discussions.)

2003-05-30 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05-29-03 18:36]: On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 02:39:13PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: The logic for the mail-followup-to header is a little more complicated, and involves both subscribed and known lists. First of all, mutt will only generate a mail

Re: lists vs. subscribe (was Re: mutt to follow discussions.)

2003-05-30 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2003-05-29 14:24:38 -0700, Bill Moseley wrote: And to follow up to my own post. Mutt 1.5.4i (2003-03-19) does not set $use_domain yes by default. The docs say: use_domain Type: boolean Default: yes When set, Mutt will qualify all local addresses (ones without the @host portion)

Re: Reading Package Lists... Error!

2003-05-28 Thread Rainer Ellinger
Manuel Beetz schrieb: E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room APT::Cache-Limit 141943904; Was für wahnwitzige Werte geistern da eigentlich durch die Gegend? Ich habe das von den vorherigen 4 auf 8 MiB (= 8388608) erhöht und vermutlich reicht das noch für Jahre, bis mal wieder mehr nötig wird. --

Re: Fw: You have been removed from the following lists

2003-04-24 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 22:20:03 -0300, Gilberto Villani Brito wrote: Ola lista que msg e essa??? Eu nunca fiz isso de mandar varios e-mails. A reclamacão não é de que você tenha mandado muitas mensagens, mas que teu servidor rejeitou muitas mensagens. Se continuar a ter

Fw: You have been removed from the following lists

2003-04-23 Thread Gilberto Villani Brito
Ola lista que msg e essa??? Eu nunca fiz isso de mandar varios e-mails. Abracos Gilberto Begin forwarded message: Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 04:30:52 -0500 (CDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SmartList) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: You have been removed from the following lists Your mail address

Re: Fw: You have been removed from the following lists

2003-04-23 Thread Leandro A. F. Pereira
Quoted by a bunch of ninja agents For `Gilberto Villani Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED]' On Wednesday, 23 April 2003 (22:20): Ola lista que msg e essa??? Eu nunca fiz isso de mandar varios e-mails. Talvez você não, mas o servidor que hospeda seus emails, sim. Ou sua caixa postal estava

apt-get: Reading Package Lists... Error!

2003-02-04 Thread Joel Alexandre
can someone please tell me why this is happening? apt-get update; Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occured while processing courier-ssl (NewVersion1) E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists

Re: apt-get: Reading Package Lists... Error!

2003-02-04 Thread Russell
Joel Alexandre wrote: can someone please tell me why this is happening? apt-get update; Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occured while processing courier-ssl (NewVersion1) E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt

Re: Removed from lists due to email errors.

2003-01-13 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 12:37:35PM -0800, Xavian-Anderson Macpherson wrote: Your mail address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], has been removed from the following mailing lists, because it generated an exessive number of bounced mails: bounced messages are normally not generated by mail clients like Kmail

Removed from lists due to email errors.

2003-01-12 Thread Xavian-Anderson Macpherson
Your mail address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], has been removed from the following mailing lists, because it generated an exessive number of bounced mails: Someone else mention the same thing to me before, but I have no idea what is causing it or how to fix it. I have no idea what I may have done

[off-topic] solução para leitura de mailing-lists de alto tráfego

2003-01-05 Thread synthespian
site gmane http://gmane.org/, ciente dessas questões propicia um serviço gratuito de gateway que permite a leitura /e/ postagem para as mailing-lists via news /com propagação para mailing-lists/. Isso significa que você não precisa mais /assinar/ mailing-lists e receber aquele tráfego maciço em sua

Re: Inn2 shows empty LISTs after upgrade to Woody

2002-10-07 Thread Iain.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Iain.) writes: I'm finding that INN is returning empty replies to requests for lists in /var/lib/news/, like active and newsgroups. It does however list stuff in /etc/news like overview.fmt and motd. No takers? Oh well - I'll have to purge it and try installing it from

Re: Inn2 shows empty LISTs after upgrade to Woody

2002-10-03 Thread Iain.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Iain.) writes: Looking in /var/lib/news/, I can see that the files are populated as I'd expect. I've used ctlinnd to newgroup groups, but nothing more appears from INN. I should mention that GROUP also fails with a 441 No such group. I've rebuilt the history and overview

Inn2 shows empty LISTs after upgrade to Woody

2002-10-02 Thread Iain.
I've upgraded my news server to Woody (I know - I was on holiday and busy and things...) following the blurb in /usr/share/doc/inn2/NEWS.gz. I'm finding that INN is returning empty replies to requests for lists in /var/lib/news/, like active and newsgroups. It does however list stuff in /etc

RE: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)

2002-10-01 Thread Peter Whysall
On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 06:47, Josh Rehman wrote: I agree with Jerry. Consider that as a new user of this list, I began with a post asking about ext3. I found the responses to be overall very helpful, although at first rather terse. Encouraged, I responded to a Terseness is not always bad. I

Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)

2002-10-01 Thread Peter Whysall
On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 19:25, Jamin W.Collins wrote: On 01 Oct 2002 18:23:40 +0100 Peter Whysall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terseness is not always bad. I always try to respond to a politely asked, well-structured question in kind; I personally think that people who post only links to

Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)

2002-10-01 Thread Tom Cook
Oh, man, I thought this thread was dead... On 0, Peter Whysall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] thread about the structure of the list itself, namely the use of reply-to headers. Instead of responding materially to my points, one poster, for example, made mention of my use of Outlook as a

spamassassin white-lists

2002-09-12 Thread Tom Allison
I've found two things on the spamassassin package that I am unable to determine how to configure or manage. (My setup is postfix|procmail|spamassassin) spamd.conf: There is, on one machine, a line DROPPRIVS=yes. But it doesn't show up anywhere else. What is this line used for? What does it

Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)

2002-09-10 Thread Robert Ian Smit
in doing so. Also, if you're not on a permanent connection, I'm sure there are bandwidth issues as well. I agree that the point he made is somewhat valid. I am subscribed to a couple of other lists as well. Should fetchmail for one reason or another not work for a couple of days, I am sure I

Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)

2002-09-10 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 06:35, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: I have been on this list for about 5 years, and I don't think I have ever seen one instance of Fuck Off. I have heard many people advise others to go away, but never actually as blunt or blatant as that. Wlll, there's certainly

Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)

2002-09-10 Thread Robert Ian Smit
On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 11:47:38AM +1000, David Pastern wrote: You guys are goddamn rude. If this is linux helpfulness at it's best god help linux and open source. To quote three dead trolls in a baggie' every os sucks.mp3: Yep, some are, some are not. I don't want to get philosophical and

Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)

2002-09-10 Thread Robert Ian Smit
can't deal with email lists; we don't do things his way. Too fucking bad. You're funny, man. But from one Bob to another, please use smilies or you run the risk of being misunderstood. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)

2002-09-10 Thread Tom Cook
On 0, Josh Rehman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jerry Gaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] This is the third time I've subscribed to debian-user. Each time I leave in disgust because of the attitude of a few posters. Debian is *not* the easiest distribution to install, but some of you

Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)

2002-09-10 Thread ben
On Monday 09 September 2002 10:42 pm, Barney Wrightson wrote: David Pastern wrote: Snip 10. Remember that english is not everyones main tongue. Writing skills are always weaker for a person from a NESB (non english speaking background). Best wishes, Dave W Pastern On the

Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)

2002-09-10 Thread klaus imgrund
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:43:06 -0400 Edward Guldemond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd recently bought (yes paid money) for Suse 8 pro. I decided to trial it on my laptop, Compaq Armada 1750. Eventually, I got it to work and install. After contacting Suse support that is. Installation

RE: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)

2002-09-10 Thread David Pastern
. For that matter I wasn't knocking the debian system, I was having a go at a few users who were plain downright rude. And at the general elitism that i've personally found from a large % of linux users elsewhere (and that appeared to initially be the case on the debian lists here). Thankfully most

RE: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)

2002-09-10 Thread David Pastern
distribution. After playing with it for a week and a half (and learning a reasonable amount in that time frame) i've managed to get it working. And i'm happy. I don't have a problem with Debian mailing lists/help. I do have a problem with people like those that I replied to in my original post

RE: [STOP THIS] Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear.;-)

2002-09-10 Thread David Pastern
Amen. Good points Matthias. Dave -Original Message- From: Matthias Szupryczynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2002 12:22 AM To: Debian User; David Pastern Subject: [STOP THIS] Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear.;-) He list, just

Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)

2002-09-10 Thread Matus \fantomas\ Uhlar
- Why on earth (to stay local) doesn't Debian move the lists to a - newsserver instead That way it's much easier to follow threads and - only download the messages that is of interest. And if Debian does not - connect to other newsservers, they will not get obnoxious groups as - alt.sex

RE: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)

2002-09-10 Thread deFreese, Barry
be a better medium than a mailing list for this. I would suggest that among the vast majority of computer users, both mailing lists and Usenet are something of an unknown, and the same would apply to IRC - if it isn't the web or usual person-to-person email, it is a Wuzzat? type of black cyber-magic

RE: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)

2002-09-10 Thread deFreese, Barry
make you less stupid; it just makes you stupid faster. Jerry Gregoire - Former CIO at Dell -Original Message- From: Colin Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear

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