FTP Repository all man pages?

2023-04-20 Thread jeremy ardley
Is there any FTP repository that holds all the current Jessie man page files in one location? I have tried various scripts and wget to extract man pages from https://manpages.debian.org/jessie/ but my scripting ability lacks somewhat. Jeremy

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, January 7, 2022 6:38:14 PM EST Ralph Katz wrote: > On 1/7/22 03:01, gene heskett wrote: > ... > > > I've noted that there can be links to a web page in a man page that are > > underscored if you click on them while reading the man page, but > > clicking > > the link does not do

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread Ralph Katz
On 1/7/22 03:01, gene heskett wrote: ... I've noted that there can be links to a web page in a man page that are underscored if you click on them while reading the man page, but clicking the link does not do anything. Is it supposed to send the default browser to that page? If so, where should

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread Curt
On 2022-01-07, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > I use the Shift + Right-click trick to get the menu in applications that > seem to block Gnome Terminal's handling of the URL. I've found the > trick useful with Mutt and Midnight Commander. > I see. I only experimented in a man page.

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2022 07 Jan 10:26 -0600, Curt wrote: > On 2022-01-07, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > > Did you try Shift + Right-click and select "Open Link" or some such in > > your terminal? That is what works for me in Gnome Terminal. > > > > This is what works for me in gnome-terminal: > > URL

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, January 7, 2022 6:41:45 AM EST Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > cat /etc/debian_version 11.2 And now I see how it works since it does that way, thank you. Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, January 7, 2022 8:05:59 AM EST Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 05:59:36 -0500 > gene heskett wrote: > > ... > > > That is installed, but I can't find a configurator for it. And I am a > > heavy user of mc but the file menu popup steals the F10 key, also a > > pita. But there is

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, January 7, 2022 6:16:21 AM EST David wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 at 21:59, gene heskett wrote: > > On Friday, January 7, 2022 5:21:03 AM EST David wrote: > > > On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 at 21:01, gene heskett wrote: > > > > debian 11.1, 64 bit net-install updated yesterday. > > > > > > > >

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread Curt
On 2022-01-07, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > Did you try Shift + Right-click and select "Open Link" or some such in > your terminal? That is what works for me in Gnome Terminal. > This is what works for me in gnome-terminal: URL detection[edit] GNOME Terminal parses the output and automatically

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2022 07 Jan 04:01 -0600, gene heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > debian 11.1, 64 bit net-install updated yesterday. > > I've noted that there can be links to a web page in a man page that are > underscored if you click on them while reading the man page, but clicking > the link does not

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 08:13:42AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 01:09:38PM -, Curt wrote: > > I'd rather just cut and paste the URI in the always-open browser, but > > then again I've never had that old hacker spirit. > > That's what I do too. I like my terminals to

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 01:09:38PM -, Curt wrote: > I'd rather just cut and paste the URI in the always-open browser, but > then again I've never had that old hacker spirit. That's what I do too. I like my terminals to be relatively frill-free. Obviously that's just my preference, and I know

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread Curt
On 2022-01-07, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 11:41:45AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 05:01:05AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: >> > I've noted that there can be links to a web page in a man page that are > >> In a terminal: left click might not do

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 05:59:36 -0500 gene heskett wrote: ... > That is installed, but I can't find a configurator for it. And I am a heavy > user of mc but the file menu popup steals the F10 key, also a pita. But > there is not an F10 checked in the settings for xfce or konsole that I can >

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 11:41:45AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 05:01:05AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > I've noted that there can be links to a web page in a man page that are > In a terminal: left click might not do anything but right click will bring > up a menu

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 05:01:05AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > debian 11.1, 64 bit net-install updated yesterday. > > I've noted that there can be links to a web page in a man page that are > underscored if you click on them while reading the man page, but clicking > the

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread David
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 at 21:59, gene heskett wrote: > On Friday, January 7, 2022 5:21:03 AM EST David wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 at 21:01, gene heskett wrote: > > > debian 11.1, 64 bit net-install updated yesterday. > > > I've noted that there can be links to a web page in a man page that are

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, January 7, 2022 5:21:03 AM EST David wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 at 21:01, gene heskett wrote: > > debian 11.1, 64 bit net-install updated yesterday. > > > > I've noted that there can be links to a web page in a man page that are > > underscored if you click on them while reading the

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread David
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 at 21:01, gene heskett wrote: > debian 11.1, 64 bit net-install updated yesterday. > > I've noted that there can be links to a web page in a man page that are > underscored if you click on them while reading the man page, but clicking > the link does not do anything. Is it

odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread gene heskett
Greetings all; debian 11.1, 64 bit net-install updated yesterday. I've noted that there can be links to a web page in a man page that are underscored if you click on them while reading the man page, but clicking the link does not do anything. Is it supposed to send the default browser to

Re: Debian and FSF docs (was: Man pages for gcc)

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 10 dec 21, 17:17:24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 12:41:01PM +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > At the very least Debian could split non-free into sections or add more > > areas (non-free firmware being another obvious candidate for splitting > > out). > > > > Do

Re: Debian and FSF docs (was: Man pages for gcc)

2021-12-10 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 12:41:01PM +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 31 oct 21, 17:37:10, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > This is because GNU releases their documentation under a different license > > > than their source code. And Debian considers the GNU documentation > > > license to be

Re: Debian and FSF docs (was: Man pages for gcc)

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 31 oct 21, 17:37:10, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > This is because GNU releases their documentation under a different license > > than their source code. And Debian considers the GNU documentation > > license to be non-free (rightly so, because it prohibits distributing > > modified versions).

Re: Man pages for gcc

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 07 nov 21, 08:08:51, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Paul M. Foster wrote: > > > Folks: > > > > I'm sure everyone but me knows this, but I can't find a man > > page for gcc. > > Everyone knows it ... but this question has still been asked > one zillion times. I personally do not mind one bit you

Re: Man pages for gcc

2021-11-01 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sun, Oct 31, 2021, 5:05 PM Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2021 31 Oct 16:27 -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > The info command is what you want for gcc. You may need to install the > > package for gcc info files. Another set of commands you might need info > > files for are coreutils. Try

Re: Man pages for gcc

2021-10-31 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2021 31 Oct 16:27 -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > The info command is what you want for gcc. You may need to install the > package for gcc info files. Another set of commands you might need info > files for are coreutils. Try "info coreutils". While info is probably installed, a much

Re: Man pages for gcc

2021-10-31 Thread Dan Ritter
ebian 11. gcc-doc has the man pages; they are in non-free. Yes, it's ironic. -dsr-

Re: Man pages for gcc

2021-10-31 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sun, Oct 31, 2021, 4:07 PM Paul M. Foster wrote: > Folks: > > I'm sure everyone but me knows this, but I can't find a man page for > gcc. There must be some docs somewhere. First question: why isn't there > a man page? Second question: what docs are available (or what package > provides

Re: Man pages for gcc

2021-10-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 04:58:34PM -0400, Paul M. Foster wrote: > I'm sure everyone but me knows this, but I can't find a man page for gcc. > There must be some docs somewhere. First question: why isn't there a man > page? Second question: what docs are available (or what package provides > them)?

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-23 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/22/2021 02:21 AM, Curt wrote: On 2021-06-22, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 11:50:22PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Mon 21 Jun 2021 at 15:25:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/21/2021 02:36 PM, Curt wrote: curl https://cht.sh/:cht.sh > ~/bin/cht.sh chmod +x

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-23 Thread rhkramer
st all > situations. They don't need to contain all the info you'll ever want to > know, but I usually welcome a few examples in there ;-) Eventually those extra examples for the man pages could become a local, automatically installed thing, similiar to the man pages -- there might be a c

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
> That's what I get for blindly copying and pasting the "directions" from > Github. I should've have just told Monnier that the whole shebang > can be installed locally, which renders inoperative his nitpick about > not having the Net when he needs to cheat the most (or most often). The

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-22 Thread Brian
On Tue 22 Jun 2021 at 05:54:19 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/22/2021 02:21 AM, Curt wrote: > > On 2021-06-22, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 11:50:22PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > On Mon 21 Jun 2021 at 15:25:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > > > > > On

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-22 Thread Curt
On 2021-06-22, Richard Owlett wrote: > Unfortunately it outputs light gray text on white background which is > near impossible for me to read. I Can't figure out how to COERCE MATE > Terminal to render everything as black on white. That is a showstopper > for me. Yeah, maybe you're trying to

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 22 iun 21, 05:54:19, Richard Owlett wrote: > > If ~/bin needs to be created, will logging out then in _guarantee_ it gets > added to my path? That doesn't sound normal. There is no guarantee :) On buster /etc/skel/.profile includes the following snippets # set PATH so it includes

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/22/2021 07:59 AM, Curt wrote: On 2021-06-22, Richard Owlett wrote: I got multiple warning messages including a missing dependency and warning that my Python was too old. I'm in process of installing Debian 10.7 on another machine. I'll try again this afternoon or tomorrow. Thanks. Too

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-22 Thread Curt
On 2021-06-22, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I got multiple warning messages including a missing dependency and > warning that my Python was too old. I'm in process of installing > Debian 10.7 on another machine. I'll try again this afternoon or tomorrow. > Thanks. Too old is surprising because it

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/22/2021 06:43 AM, Curt wrote: On 2021-06-22, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/22/2021 02:21 AM, Curt wrote: On 2021-06-22, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 11:50:22PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Mon 21 Jun 2021 at 15:25:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/21/2021 02:36 PM, Curt

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-22 Thread Curt
On 2021-06-22, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/22/2021 02:21 AM, Curt wrote: >> On 2021-06-22, Greg Wooledge wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 11:50:22PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Mon 21 Jun 2021 at 15:25:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/21/2021 02:36 PM, Curt wrote: >>

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/22/2021 02:21 AM, Curt wrote: On 2021-06-22, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 11:50:22PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Mon 21 Jun 2021 at 15:25:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/21/2021 02:36 PM, Curt wrote: curl https://cht.sh/:cht.sh > ~/bin/cht.sh

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-22 Thread Curt
On 2021-06-22, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 11:50:22PM +0100, Brian wrote: >> On Mon 21 Jun 2021 at 15:25:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >> > On 06/21/2021 02:36 PM, Curt wrote: >> > > curl https://cht.sh/:cht.sh > ~/bin/cht.sh >> > > chmod +x ~/bin/cht.sh >> > >

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 11:50:22PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Mon 21 Jun 2021 at 15:25:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > On 06/21/2021 02:36 PM, Curt wrote: > > > curl https://cht.sh/:cht.sh > ~/bin/cht.sh > > > chmod +x ~/bin/cht.sh > > > cht.sh --standalone-install > > > > I don't

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-21 Thread Brian
On Mon 21 Jun 2021 at 15:25:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/21/2021 02:36 PM, Curt wrote: > > On 2021-06-21, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > Many see the need for examples to be associated with man pages. > > > [...] > > > > Would it be prope

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-21 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/21/2021 02:36 PM, Curt wrote: On 2021-06-21, Stefan Monnier wrote: Many see the need for examples to be associated with man pages. [...] Would it be proper/reasonable/practical/??? to add an entry of the form https://cht.sh/XXX ? I think it can make sense for manpages to include

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Many see the need for examples to be associated with man pages. [...] > Would it be proper/reasonable/practical/??? to add an entry of the form > https://cht.sh/XXX ? I think it can make sense for manpages to include a link to some further doc in the form of a wiki or some other webpa

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-21 Thread Curt
On 2021-06-21, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Many see the need for examples to be associated with man pages. > [...] >> Would it be proper/reasonable/practical/??? to add an entry of the form >> https://cht.sh/XXX ? > > I think it can make sense for manpages to include a

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-21 Thread Marco Möller
On 21.06.21 17:29, Richard Owlett wrote: Many see the need for examples to be associated with man pages. Sometime back a post mentioned a web page that could return examples for most(all??) Linux commands. I failed to bookmark it and have not rediscovered it since. In another forum I

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-21 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/21/2021 11:49 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2021 21 Jun 10:30 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Many see the need for examples to be associated with man pages. My name is among the authors of a few man pages found in the Debian archive with regard to some software used primarily by radio

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-21 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2021 21 Jun 10:30 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Many see the need for examples to be associated with man pages. My name is among the authors of a few man pages found in the Debian archive with regard to some software used primarily by radio amateurs. Part of the issue is how many examp

Re: A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-21 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/21/2021 10:29 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: Many see the need for examples to be associated with man pages. Sometime back a post mentioned a web page that could return examples for most(all??) Linux commands. I failed to bookmark it and have not rediscovered it since. In another forum I

A feasible method to add examples to man pages?

2021-06-21 Thread Richard Owlett
Many see the need for examples to be associated with man pages. Sometime back a post mentioned a web page that could return examples for most(all??) Linux commands. I failed to bookmark it and have not rediscovered it since. In another forum I was pointed to https://cht.sh/ . Going to https

Re: A Proposal: Each of Online Debian Man pages could have a wiki (Main page / Talk Page, etc.) at its bottom, with only Example Code Lines ...

2021-06-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
ter/moreutils/parallel.1.en.html https://manpages.debian.org/buster/parallel/parallel.1.en.html Two implementations of the parallel(1) command, from two separate sources. Very different. How do you plan to handle this situation? Once you've written up new EXAMPLES for a few man pages to get the ball

Re: A Proposal: Each of Online Debian Man pages could have a wiki (Main page / Talk Page, etc.) at its bottom, with only Example Code Lines ...

2021-06-21 Thread Susmita/Rajib
ution ... > license requires ... with small tweaks ... > remove the Arch-specific parts. One tiny alteration: it was learnt from Mr. Hektor that the debian Man Pages aren't wiki. The file: "ls_proposal_man_debian.html", in the Drive folder: https://bit.ly/Apt_readingManPages, conta

Re: A Proposal: Each of Online Debian Man pages could have a wiki (Main page / Talk Page, etc.) at its bottom, with only Example Code Lines ...

2021-06-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
ple to create pages > for their tools. Then, eventually people will put links into their > man pages pointing at this global resource. That's my best opinion > after reading all your posts. Agreed, except for the "get people to create pages for their tools". The upstream maintainers

Re: A Proposal: Each of Online Debian Man pages could have a wiki (Main page / Talk Page, etc.) at its bottom, with only Example Code Lines ...

2021-06-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
Pages are available at: > >> https://manpages.debian.org/ > > > > I'm pretty sure that's not a wiki. > > > > It looks like a set of automatically generated static pages. > > In particular, I suspect that it is automatically generated from the > exact same

Re: A Proposal: Each of Online Debian Man pages could have a wiki (Main page / Talk Page, etc.) at its bottom, with only Example Code Lines ...

2021-06-19 Thread Susmita/Rajib
The file: "ls_proposal_man_debian.html", in the Drive folder: https://bit.ly/Apt_readingManPages, contains the example on how I would have wanted all the man pages to be, for Newcomers to learn coding and systems handling with minimum / optimal help when in need. I desire that GNU FSF

Re: A Proposal: Each of Online Debian Man pages could have a wiki (Main page / Talk Page, etc.) at its bottom, with only Example Code Lines ...

2021-06-19 Thread Dan Ritter
Greg Wooledge wrote: > Now, I will also note that this poster has sent me private email telling > me in flowery language to shut up and stay out of their threads. > Screw you. I will respond when I feel there's a reason to respond. > I also mention this primarily for informational purposes, to

Re: A Proposal: Each of Online Debian Man pages could have a wiki (Main page / Talk Page, etc.) at its bottom, with only Example Code Lines ...

2021-06-19 Thread Curt
On 2021-06-19, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Now, I will also note that this poster has sent me private email telling > me in flowery language to shut up and stay out of their threads. > Screw you. I will respond when I feel there's a reason to respond. > I also mention this primarily for

Re: A Proposal: Each of Online Debian Man pages could have a wiki (Main page / Talk Page, etc.) at its bottom, with only Example Code Lines ...

2021-06-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 07:58:58AM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > The Drive Folder for a sample Man file and an attempt at pictorial > analysis along with visual explanations of a sample command: > https://bit.ly/Apt_readingManPages OK, I finally took the bait and clicked on this link. For

Re: A Proposal: Each of Online Debian Man pages could have a wiki (Main page / Talk Page, etc.) at its bottom, with only Example Code Lines ...

2021-06-19 Thread The Wanderer
pretty sure that's not a wiki. > > It looks like a set of automatically generated static pages. In particular, I suspect that it is automatically generated from the exact same data set as the man pages themselves (if not *from* the man pages themselves), and therefore will by definition have

Re: A Proposal: Each of Online Debian Man pages could have a wiki (Main page / Talk Page, etc.) at its bottom, with only Example Code Lines ...

2021-06-19 Thread Susmita/Rajib
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org From: Richard Hector Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2021 18:51:04 +1200 [...] > I'm pretty sure that's not a wiki. > It looks like a set of automatically generated static pages. > Richard Okay, thank you Mr. Hector, for correcting my notion. The proposal remains the same

Re: A Proposal: Each of Online Debian Man pages could have a wiki (Main page / Talk Page, etc.) at its bottom, with only Example Code Lines ...

2021-06-19 Thread Richard Hector
On 19/06/21 2:28 pm, Susmita/Rajib wrote: Aren't the ML members aware that Debian already has a Man Wiki pages repository? Debian Man Wiki Pages are available at: https://manpages.debian.org/ I'm pretty sure that's not a wiki. It looks like a set of automatically generated static pages.

Re: A Proposal: Each of Online Debian Man pages could have a wiki (Main page / Talk Page, etc.) at its bottom, with only Example Code Lines ...

2021-06-18 Thread Susmita/Rajib
e ML members aware that Debian already has a Man Wiki pages repository? Debian Man Wiki Pages are available at: https://manpages.debian.org/ > Wikis tend to be GUI based and man pages are text files used generally > at the command propt ... Debian Wikis _are_ GUI. > I'm all for better docu

Re: A Proposal: Each of Online Debian Man pages could have a wiki (Main page / Talk Page, etc.) at its bottom, with only Example Code Lines ...

2021-06-18 Thread Michael Grant
On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 09:20:56PM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > The subject line is being amended to add the word "Online " before > "... Debian Man pages ..." for the thread at: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/06/msg00432.html, continued > till http

Re: A Proposal: Each of Online Debian Man pages could have a wiki (Main page / Talk Page, etc.) at its bottom, with only Example Code Lines ...

2021-06-18 Thread Susmita/Rajib
The subject line is being amended to add the word "Online " before "... Debian Man pages ..." for the thread at: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/06/msg00432.html, continued till https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/06/msg00438.html, to further clarify confusi

Re: A Proposal: Each of Debian Man pages could have a wiki (Main page / Talk Page, etc.) at its bottom, with only Example Code Lines ...

2021-06-17 Thread David Wright
On Thu 17 Jun 2021 at 18:01:55 (+0530), Susmita/Rajib wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jun 2021 10:37:43 +0100, Jonathan Dowland > > However, as with all things in Debian, things are best achieved by doing > > them yourself; or at least, beginning to, so that there's a concrete > > example to explore. > > > >

Re: A Proposal: Each of Debian Man pages could have a wiki (Main page / Talk Page, etc.) at its bottom, with only Example Code Lines ...

2021-06-17 Thread Susmita/Rajib
On Thu, 17 Jun 2021 10:37:43 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: [...] > Message-id: <[] 20210617093743.v3t2nyw2si2luoif@coil> > In-reply-to: <[] > caeg4czw1-rwjvf2hmacwigqu4juqfm66r5xwkkz7ftmrfzh...@mail.gmail.com> > References: <[] >

Re: A Proposal: Each of Debian Man pages could have a wiki (Main page / Talk Page, etc.) at its bottom, with only Example Code Lines ...

2021-06-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
be insurmountable: 1) The source of most man pages in Debian is the upstream packages themselves. Therefore, to include a Debian-specific addition in every manpage, Debian package maintainers will need to carry patches for every man page. For some packages, especially those which don't already

A Proposal: Each of Debian Man pages could have a wiki (Main page / Talk Page, etc.) at its bottom, with only Example Code Lines ...

2021-06-17 Thread Susmita/Rajib
. A follow up on the earlier Thread: Whether Man pages could visually be structured in an abstract form to be understood easier https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/04/msg00552.html The illustrative, but incomplete Mind Map: bit.ly/Apt_readingManPages Debian Online Man Pages available at: https

Re: examples for man pages

2021-05-31 Thread Curt
On 2021-05-31, Dan Ritter wrote: >> > >> > '\?T' for text only, no ANSI sequences >> > >> > curl cht.sh/cp\?T >> > >> > curl cheat.sh/:help >> >> Thank you. That addresses the immediate *SYMPTOM*. >> >> I'll repeat my statement from my original post: >> > I'll have to reconfigure something

Re: examples for man pages

2021-05-31 Thread Dan Ritter
Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/30/2021 03:02 PM, Curt wrote: > > On 2021-05-29, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > > I'll have to reconfigure something on my system. Executing 'curl > > > cheat.sh/cp' resulted in light grey text on white background ;/ > > > > > > > '\?T' for text only, no ANSI

Re: examples for man pages

2021-05-31 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/30/2021 03:02 PM, Curt wrote: On 2021-05-29, Richard Owlett wrote: I'll have to reconfigure something on my system. Executing 'curl cheat.sh/cp' resulted in light grey text on white background ;/ '\?T' for text only, no ANSI sequences curl cht.sh/cp\?T curl cheat.sh/:help

Re: examples for man pages

2021-05-30 Thread Curt
On 2021-05-29, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I'll have to reconfigure something on my system. Executing 'curl > cheat.sh/cp' resulted in light grey text on white background ;/ > '\?T' for text only, no ANSI sequences curl cht.sh/cp\?T curl cheat.sh/:help

Re: examples for man pages

2021-05-30 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/29/2021 03:20 PM, Jeremy Nicoll wrote: On Sat, 29 May 2021, at 21:03, Richard Owlett wrote: The man page is, putting *mildly*, overwhelming. Is there a recommended introduction to curl. curl is a big subject. While it's very useful to people who write scripts etc, on many platforms,

Re: examples for man pages

2021-05-29 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2021 29 May 15:04 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/29/2021 12:55 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > This may not be exactly what you're thinking of, but I saw this > > referenced on Reddit recently: > > > > curl cheat.sh/ > > > > I just did it for 'curl cheat.sh/cp' which gives some

Re: examples for man pages

2021-05-29 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Sat, 29 May 2021, at 21:03, Richard Owlett wrote: > The man page is, putting *mildly*, overwhelming. Is there a recommended > introduction to curl. curl is a big subject. While it's very useful to people who write scripts etc, on many platforms, the whole manual is aimed at programmers

Re: examples for man pages

2021-05-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/29/2021 12:55 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: This may not be exactly what you're thinking of, but I saw this referenced on Reddit recently: curl cheat.sh/ I just did it for 'curl cheat.sh/cp' which gives some examples including from tldr. - Nate I'll have to reconfigure something

Re: examples for man pages

2021-05-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/29/2021 11:47 AM, Marco Möller wrote: On 29.05.21 15:41, Richard Owlett wrote: A couple of months ago there was a discussion of practical problems with adding examples to all man pages. Someone pointed to a website of examples indexed by man page name. Unfortunately I didn't bookmark

Re: examples for man pages

2021-05-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/29/2021 10:57 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 08:41:02AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: A couple of months ago there was a discussion of practical problems with adding examples to all man pages. Someone pointed to a website of examples indexed by man page name

Re: examples for man pages

2021-05-29 Thread Nate Bargmann
This may not be exactly what you're thinking of, but I saw this referenced on Reddit recently: curl cheat.sh/ I just did it for 'curl cheat.sh/cp' which gives some examples including from tldr. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The

Re: examples for man pages

2021-05-29 Thread Marco Möller
On 29.05.21 15:41, Richard Owlett wrote: A couple of months ago there was a discussion of practical problems with adding examples to all man pages. Someone pointed to a website of examples indexed by man page name. Unfortunately I didn't bookmark it and my attempts to do a web search failed

Re: examples for man pages

2021-05-29 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 08:41:02AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > A couple of months ago there was a discussion of practical problems with > adding examples to all man pages. > > Someone pointed to a website of examples indexed by man page name. > Unfortunately I didn't boo

examples for man pages

2021-05-29 Thread Richard Owlett
A couple of months ago there was a discussion of practical problems with adding examples to all man pages. Someone pointed to a website of examples indexed by man page name. Unfortunately I didn't bookmark it and my attempts to do a web search failed. Does anyone recall the URL? TIA

Re: Whether Man pages could visually be structured in an abstract form to be understood easier

2021-04-19 Thread Michael Grant
> Also, other man pages are similarly converted. Really, man pages are > sick without a teacher, for me of course. > Rajib Rajib, The pushback you will get here is not because it isn't a good idea to have some documentation that is easier to use. The problem is historica

Re: Whether Man pages could visually be structured in an abstract form to be understood easier

2021-04-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 01:18:32PM +0100, Joe wrote: > Man pages were written as pure text files, beginning in a period when > that was pretty much all the Web could do. You can read man pages on a > server, which will not usually have any graphic display ability beyond > curses/n

Re: Whether Man pages could visually be structured in an abstract form to be understood easier

2021-04-19 Thread Joe
gManPages > > I won't claim a copyright :D (i.e., a CC share and alter for > improvement license is given) and would want that the uploaded > AptPrilimMindMap.svg file is edited, improved and sent back to me. > > Also, other man pages are similarly converted. Really, man pages a

Whether Man pages could visually be structured in an abstract form to be understood easier

2021-04-19 Thread Susmita/Rajib
that the uploaded AptPrilimMindMap.svg file is edited, improved and sent back to me. Also, other man pages are similarly converted. Really, man pages are sick without a teacher, for me of course. Best. Rajib

Re: Something is buggy - was [Re: Debian man pages have annoying feature(sic)]

2020-06-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 02 iun 20, 10:48:45, Richard Owlett wrote: > > My problem with dman revolves around running Stretch and debian.org > defaulting to serving up information about "stable" {i.e. Buster}. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=931992 Kind regards, Andrei --

Re: Something is buggy - was [Re: Debian man pages have annoying feature(sic)]

2020-06-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/02/2020 08:45 AM, The Wanderer wrote: On 2020-06-02 at 09:05, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/01/2020 05:02 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/01/2020 04:02 PM, Ralph Katz wrote: apt show debian-goodies ... debman - Easily view man pages from a binary .deb without extracting

Re: Debian man pages have annoying feature(sic)

2020-06-02 Thread David Wright
-- but I had the impression (wrongly?) > > > > that the OP wanted a "webby" solution. But thanks for chiming in > > > > with alternatives! > > > > > > > > > > Yes. A "webby" solution can have two benefits in my environmen

Re: Debian man pages have annoying feature(sic)

2020-06-02 Thread Brian
-- but I had the impression (wrongly?) > > > > that the OP wanted a "webby" solution. But thanks for chiming in > > > > with alternatives! > > > > > > > > > > Yes. A "webby" solution can have two benefits in my environment: &

Re: Debian man pages have annoying feature(sic)

2020-06-02 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
arity-contest/. > > *PROBLEM* > As package is not installed, that directory does *NOT* exist. > > Where to find required documentation on the web? > > NOTE BENE > This post is about man pages as a class. Asking for a man page to include all of the documentation about a package i

Re: Something is buggy - was [Re: Debian man pages have annoying feature(sic)]

2020-06-02 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 2 juin 2020 à 15:05 de rowl...@cloud85.net: > On 06/01/2020 05:02 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I am running Debian 9.8 with MATE desktop > > Synaptic reports: > >> Commit Log for Mon Jun 1 16:45:47 2020 >> Installed the following packages: >> curl (7.52.1-5+deb9u9) >> dctrl-tools

Re: Something is buggy - was [Re: Debian man pages have annoying feature(sic)]

2020-06-02 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-06-02 at 09:05, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/01/2020 05:02 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> On 06/01/2020 04:02 PM, Ralph Katz wrote: >>> apt show debian-goodies >>> ... >>> debman - Easily view man pages from a binary .deb without extracting >

Something is buggy - was [Re: Debian man pages have annoying feature(sic)]

2020-06-02 Thread Richard Owlett
pages as a class. apt show debian-goodies ... debman - Easily view man pages from a binary .deb without extracting     [man, apt* (via debget)] So...  ~$ dman packagename   # will fetch the manpages as though they were local. Regards, Ralph Thank you. Looks interesting. 1st

Re: [CLARIFICATION] Re: Debian man pages have annoying feature(sic)

2020-06-02 Thread Dan Ritter
Richard Owlett wrote: > In a recent post a particular package was mentioned. > I was not familiar with it. > I went to appropriate URL under https://manpages.debian.org/buster . > > It did not explicitly answer my question. > However, under "SEE ALSO" it stated that additional documentation

Re: Debian man pages have annoying feature(sic)

2020-06-02 Thread Richard Owlett
d a "webby" solution. But thanks for chiming in with alternatives! Yes. A "webby" solution can have two benefits in my environment: a. may minimize download downloaded byte count. b. following intervening links and cross references can lead to answering important

[CLARIFICATION] Re: Debian man pages have annoying feature(sic)

2020-06-02 Thread Richard Owlett
/share/doc/... . *PROBLEM* As package is not installed, that directory does *NOT* exist. Where to find referenced documentation on the web? NOTE BENE This post is about man pages as a class.

Re: Debian man pages have annoying feature(sic)

2020-06-01 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 2 juin 2020 à 00:02 de rowl...@cloud85.net: > On 06/01/2020 04:02 PM, Ralph Katz wrote: > >> apt show debian-goodies >> ... >> debman - Easily view man pages from a binary .deb without extracting >> [man, apt* (via debget)] >> >> So... ~$ dm

Re: Debian man pages have annoying feature(sic)

2020-06-01 Thread Bob Weber
On 6/1/20 6:02 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/01/2020 04:02 PM, Ralph Katz wrote: On 5/30/20 3:52 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: ... *PROBLEM* As package is not installed, that directory does *NOT* exist. Where to find required documentation on the web? NOTE BENE This post is about man pages

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