Re: now gmail rant

2020-03-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 06 mar 20, 08:26:34, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51467536 > > > > > > I think that's the German *BND* Federal Intelligence Service (at least > > > according to the BBC). > > > I've heard from some intelligent services - they do not use any electronic >

Re: now gmail rant

2020-03-06 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 7/3/20 12:30 am, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 10:36:48AM +, Liam O'Toole wrote: Mutt displays the date and time of your email as "Fri, 6 Mar 2020 14:24:47 +1100", and that is reflected in the attribution string above. So the information is conveyed in some email header or

Re: now gmail rant

2020-03-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 10:36:48AM +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > Mutt displays the date and time of your email as "Fri, 6 Mar 2020 > 14:24:47 +1100", and that is reflected in the attribution string above. > So the information is conveyed in some email header or other. Specifically, the one named "D

Re: cannot view Trash? now gmail rant

2020-03-06 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, March 05, 2020 11:29:00 PM mick crane wrote: > gmail seems to respond to getmail request to delete fetched email by > changing the tag so that it doesn't show in Inbox or Bin but is still in > Allmail. Interesting -- I guess I forgot that in this discussion we have to distinguish bet

Re: now gmail rant

2020-03-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
> > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51467536 > > > > I think that's the German *BND* Federal Intelligence Service (at least > > according to the BBC). > I've heard from some intelligent services - they do not use any electronic > devices and after those news I know why. > > Same for the na

Re: now gmail rant

2020-03-06 Thread deloptes
Curt wrote: > Oh yeah. > > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51467536 > > I think that's the German *BND* Federal Intelligence Service (at least > according to the BBC). yes this is it. so people (governments, etc.) were believing they do encrypted stuff w/o being spied and the deliverying

Re: now gmail rant

2020-03-06 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Fri, 06 Mar, 2020 at 14:24:47 +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: [...] > > Interesting that I have 3 responses to the original post.Perhaps we have > a time zone issue? Like when I was flamed at 06:00 the morning after, for > not responding to a post I sent at 21:00. We sometimes need a way

Re: now gmail rant

2020-03-06 Thread Curt
On 2020-03-06, deloptes wrote: > ghe wrote: > >> Free (lower tier -- $4 a month next step up). Open sourcing their code. >> Significant security features -- end to end encryption, etc.). Great user >> support. In Switzerland, far away from crackers and the NSA... > > This is a joke as recently was

Re: now gmail rant

2020-03-05 Thread deloptes
ghe wrote: > Free (lower tier -- $4 a month next step up). Open sourcing their code. > Significant security features -- end to end encryption, etc.). Great user > support. In Switzerland, far away from crackers and the NSA... This is a joke as recently was publish that a swiss based company was d

Re: now gmail rant

2020-03-05 Thread ghe
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, March 5, 2020 8:24 PM, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > I am slowly working towards a better email server, but it takes time. Check out protonmail.com. I moved there from gmail recently. Free (lower tier -- $4 a month next step up). Open sourcing thei

Re: cannot view Trash? now gmail rant

2020-03-05 Thread mick crane
On 2020-03-05 18:13, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 05 March 2020 12:15:27 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting kaye n (2020-03-05 18:02:45) > I'm going to assume that none of you saw or received my email > earlier, so here it is again. No, that is not how this mailinglist works. If you are in d

now gmail rant

2020-03-05 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 6/3/20 5:43 am, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, March 05, 2020 01:13:54 PM Gene Heskett wrote: off topic, but how many times do we have to tell gmail users they have to have 2 accounts, one to send to and one to receive? Otherwise gmail thinks the echo from a mailing list is a duplicat

Re: cannot view Trash? now gmail rant

2020-03-05 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Thu, 05 Mar, 2020 at 13:13:54 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 05 March 2020 12:15:27 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting kaye n (2020-03-05 18:02:45) > > > > > I'm going to assume that none of you saw or received my email > > > earlier, so here it is again. > > > > No, that is not ho

Re: cannot view Trash? now gmail rant

2020-03-05 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, March 05, 2020 01:13:54 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > off topic, but how many times do we have to tell gmail users they have to > have 2 accounts, one to send to and one to receive? Otherwise gmail > thinks the echo from a mailing list is a duplicate and deletes it, > making the poor user t

Re: cannot view Trash? now gmail rant

2020-03-05 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, March 05, 2020 01:13:54 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > off topic, but how many times do we have to tell gmail users they have to > have 2 accounts, one to send to and one to receive? Otherwise gmail > thinks the echo from a mailing list is a duplicate and deletes it, > making the poor user t

Re: cannot view Trash? now gmail rant

2020-03-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 05 March 2020 12:15:27 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting kaye n (2020-03-05 18:02:45) > > > I'm going to assume that none of you saw or received my email > > earlier, so here it is again. > > No, that is not how this mailinglist works. > > If you are in doubt that your message was proc