Re: ..when to scrap old junk, was: old machine wheezy vs apt

2012-04-19 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 18 April 2012 20:14:45 Indulekha wrote: > There is a special appeal in the challenge of keeping obsolete > machines alive, and a unique form of satifaction in not indulging > in the rampant consumerism that surrounds us too. +1 :-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: ..when to scrap old junk, was: old machine wheezy vs apt

2012-04-19 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:18:16PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:10:38 +0100, Dom wrote in message > <4f8d79de.20...@rpdom.net>: > > > On 16/04/12 21:34, Aleksandar Kostadinov wrote: > > > To anybody interested, debian wheezy can't run on 64MB RAM on i386. > > > Or actu

Re: ..when to scrap old junk, was: old machine wheezy vs apt

2012-04-18 Thread Indulekha
Dom wrote: > On 17/04/12 21:18, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:10:38 +0100, Dom wrote in message >> <4f8d79de.20...@rpdom.net>: >> >>> >>> I realise that I'm not going to be able to keep these machines >>> running for much longer, but I'll keep trying for as long as I can. >> >> ..d

Re: ..when to scrap old junk, was: old machine wheezy vs apt

2012-04-18 Thread Peter Easthope
On Wed, April 18, 2012 10:35 am, Dom wrote: > These little machines take about 30W max, are only used for an average > of an hour a day. As for running costs? Peanuts. Heat output? Barely > noticable. > > My main laptop is slightly newer and about 10x the power. I have other > systems, but nothing

Re: ..when to scrap old junk, was: old machine wheezy vs apt

2012-04-18 Thread Dom
On 17/04/12 21:18, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:10:38 +0100, Dom wrote in message <4f8d79de.20...@rpdom.net>: I realise that I'm not going to be able to keep these machines running for much longer, but I'll keep trying for as long as I can. ..do the math on power, maintenance e

..when to scrap old junk, was: old machine wheezy vs apt

2012-04-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:10:38 +0100, Dom wrote in message <4f8d79de.20...@rpdom.net>: > On 16/04/12 21:34, Aleksandar Kostadinov wrote: > > To anybody interested, debian wheezy can't run on 64MB RAM on i386. > > Or actually it can run but package management is unusable so all > > debian benefits a

Re: old machine wheezy vs apt

2012-04-17 Thread Keith
On 17/04/12 15:10, Dom wrote: I run a basic Wheezy system on old machines with 64MB or 32MB of RAM on i386. I like your style :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http:

Re: old machine wheezy vs apt

2012-04-17 Thread Bob Proulx
Aleksandar Kostadinov wrote: > To anybody interested, debian wheezy can't run on 64MB RAM on i386. Or > actually it can run but package management is unusable so all debian > benefits are actually lost. My slowest machine is a Pentium 133 with only 112M of ram and it is still functioning. Here is

Re: old machine wheezy vs apt

2012-04-17 Thread Dom
On 16/04/12 21:34, Aleksandar Kostadinov wrote: To anybody interested, debian wheezy can't run on 64MB RAM on i386. Or actually it can run but package management is unusable so all debian benefits are actually lost. I tried pulling the .deb files on another machine, then transfer to the old mach

Re: old machine wheezy vs apt

2012-04-16 Thread Aleksandar Kostadinov
To anybody interested, debian wheezy can't run on 64MB RAM on i386. Or actually it can run but package management is unusable so all debian benefits are actually lost. I tried pulling the .deb files on another machine, then transfer to the old machine. But dpkg is killed on 95% reading database (I

Re: old machine wheezy vs apt

2012-04-16 Thread Aleksandar Kostadinov
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 09:17:11AM +0300, Aleksandar Kostadinov wrote: >> Hello, >> >> trying to make a print server from an old pentium 100 64M RAM. I had >> to take that route because the USB<->parallel cables I've got don't >> work. Anyways

Re: old machine wheezy vs apt

2012-04-16 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 09:17:11AM +0300, Aleksandar Kostadinov wrote: > Hello, > > trying to make a print server from an old pentium 100 64M RAM. I had > to take that route because the USB<->parallel cables I've got don't > work. Anyways, first tried to install debian stable but it crashes on > b

old machine wheezy vs apt

2012-04-15 Thread Aleksandar Kostadinov
Hello, trying to make a print server from an old pentium 100 64M RAM. I had to take that route because the USB<->parallel cables I've got don't work. Anyways, first tried to install debian stable but it crashes on boot. Something with the IDE controllers. btw I think there are some nasty bugs with