Re: FW: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2004-01-01 Thread Bill Marcum
Oops, my bad, I was reading old messages. -- When you say that you agree to a thing in principle, you mean that you have not the slightest intention of carrying it out in practice. -- Otto Von Bismarck -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscrib

Re: FW: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2004-01-01 Thread Bill Marcum
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 09:25:21AM -0800, Sreelal Chandrasenan wrote: Isn't this the same ID10T that had all his email forwarded to the list a few days ago? -- When you say that you agree to a thing in principle, you mean that you have not the slightest intention of carrying it out in practice.

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-15 Thread Rich Johnson
On Thursday, December 11, 2003, at 12:43 AM, ScruLoose wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 05:37:01PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: I just found this ... and want it ... bad. Thought some of you might find it of interest: http://www.linuxjewellery.com/catalogue/DBV/ That's pretty sweet. "Geek chic"

FW: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-15 Thread Sreelal Chandrasenan
-Original Message- From: Terry Hancock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:27 AM To: debian users Subject: Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry) On Sunday 14 December 2003 07:31 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 at 15:54 GMT, J.H.M. Das

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-15 Thread Terry Hancock
On Sunday 14 December 2003 07:31 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 at 15:54 GMT, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) penned: > > On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 14:08:21 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > >> Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and > >> freely usable, but google s

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-14 Thread Raghavendra Bhat
Monique posts: >> I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and freely >> usable, but google seems to disagree Should the PDF format be used and recommended by governments? The Govt. of India is calling for opinions and this link is interesting http://gnu.org.in/philosoph

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-14 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 at 15:54 GMT, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) penned: > On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 14:08:21 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and >> freely usable, but google seems to disagree. > > Google isn't quite the all-seeing eye yet. >

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:50:32 -0600, Terry Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I attended media production classes > for staff at Caltech in which making maximum use of these > PDF 5 features was *really* pushed hard (sometime last year). > No doubt they had also

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-14 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 12:56:45 -0600, Terry Hancock wrote: > I accessed this without registering because you provided a deep-link, but > normally, Adobe makes you go through a forms process to get this far, > AFAICT. Nope. I very vaguely recalled it being available on "developer.adobe.com" (whic

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-14 Thread Terry Hancock
On Sunday 14 December 2003 09:54 am, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: > http://partners.adobe.com/asn/tech/pdf/specifications.jsp has e.g. > the PDF Reference, Fourth Edition, Version 1.5 (1172 pages). xpdf seems to > handle the "Acrobat 5" version of it just fine. Hmm. Yes, that's very interesting. I

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-14 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 14:08:21 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and freely > usable, but google seems to disagree. Google isn't quite the all-seeing eye yet. http://partners.adobe.com/asn/tech/pdf/specifications.jsp has e.g. the P

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-13 Thread Terry Hancock
On Saturday 13 December 2003 10:11 pm, Nunya wrote: > On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 10:08:07PM -0600, Terry Hancock wrote: > > It would be conceivable to call PDF 4 an open standard, since > > Ghostscript can already handle it. But we really ought to make > > a distinction, since the newer versions are

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-13 Thread Nunya
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 10:08:07PM -0600, Terry Hancock wrote: > It would be conceivable to call PDF 4 an open standard, since > Ghostscript can already handle it. But we really ought to make > a distinction, since the newer versions are incompatible. Or, I could even quote the right paragraph. [

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-13 Thread Nunya
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 10:08:07PM -0600, Terry Hancock wrote: > > This is equally true of DOC format, too, though. We *could* adopt > some prior version of it as a standard, seeing as several open > word processors can handle them already. Many PDFs I get don't display correctly in gv. The Calo

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-13 Thread Terry Hancock
On Saturday 13 December 2003 03:08 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > Oops. Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe > and freely usable, but google seems to disagree. It references some old > links from the adobe site, but they seem to have been removed. PDF 5.x is supposed to

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-13 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 at 21:00 GMT, Gregory Seidman penned: > > That is entirely FUD. PDF is no more nor less open than PostScript. > Both PostScript and PDF are industry standards developed, promoted, > and documented by Adobe. A Google search for "pdf specification" turns > up the Adobe PDF specif

PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-13 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 at 20:36 GMT, Terry Hancock penned: > > Furthermore, PDF isn't really an open data format, just a closed one > that turned out to be easier to crack than .doc files. Adobe isn't > any nicer about sharing their standards than Microsoft is. The fact > that we have good Linux re

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-13 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 02:36:10PM -0600, Terry Hancock wrote: } On Saturday 13 December 2003 12:46 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: } > On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 at 03:00 GMT, Greg Madden penned: } > > http://debian.org/logos/ } > Ooh. I was wondering where to find logos. } > } > Why eps as opposed to pdf

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-13 Thread Terry Hancock
On Saturday 13 December 2003 12:46 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 at 03:00 GMT, Greg Madden penned: > > http://debian.org/logos/ > Ooh. I was wondering where to find logos. > > Why eps as opposed to pdf or whatever? Well, for one reason, postscript is an older and more widesp

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-13 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 at 03:00 GMT, Greg Madden penned: > > For a do-it yourself (sort-of) Debian Swirl go to Kinko's (print shop). > They do cut vinyl, fairly cheep, bring in a .esp logo from http:// > debian.org/logos/. I put one on my work van :) Ooh. I was wondering where to find logos. Why

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-13 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:08:45 +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 01:30:35AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned: >> > That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well... >> > >> > http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Cat

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Madden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 10 December 2003 11:30 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned: > > That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well... > > > > http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_St

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-11 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 05:08, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 01:30:35AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned: > > > That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well... > > > > > > http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalog

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 01:30:35AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned: > > That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well... > > > > http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html > > Ah, some neat stuff, and muc

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-11 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 02:30, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned: > > > > That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well... > > > > http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html > > Ah, some neat stuff, and much more b

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-11 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned: > > That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well... > > http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html Ah, some neat stuff, and much more budget-friendly. But tell me, does anyone ever actually wear cufflin

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-10 Thread ScruLoose
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 05:37:01PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > I just found this ... and want it ... bad. > > Thought some of you might find it of interest: > > http://www.linuxjewellery.com/catalogue/DBV/ That's pretty sweet. "Geek chic" to a whole new level! Cheers! --

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-10 Thread Alvin Oga
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Scarletdown wrote: > On 10 Dec 2003 at 17:37, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > > I just found this ... and want it ... bad. > > > > Thought some of you might find it of interest: > > > > http://www.linuxjewellery.com/catalogue/DBV/ one can drag solder flux in the debian logo

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-10 Thread Scarletdown
On 10 Dec 2003 at 17:37, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > I just found this ... and want it ... bad. > > Thought some of you might find it of interest: > > http://www.linuxjewellery.com/catalogue/DBV/ > > -- > monique That's pretty cool.  I also recommend this site as well... http://scotgold.

ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-10 Thread Monique Y. Herman
I just found this ... and want it ... bad. Thought some of you might find it of interest: http://www.linuxjewellery.com/catalogue/DBV/ -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]