Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-28 Thread Olaf Reitmaier Veracierta
aptitude accept almost all apt-get commands... but is better... About apt-get for the future... http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#pkgmgmt Regards. Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Yes, you're using aptitude. Return to the apt* which

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/27/2009 12:15 PM, Daryl Styrk wrote: Someone told me long ago never to mix apt-get and aptitude. Since then, I've only used aptitude and never had a problem. Or perhaps I'm not utilizing it's full potential. God's just waiting for you to get complacent, and decide to create a mixed

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-27 Thread Daryl Styrk
Someone told me long ago never to mix apt-get and aptitude. Since then, I've only used aptitude and never had a problem. Or perhaps I'm not utilizing it's full potential. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listm

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/27/2009 07:15 AM, thveillon.debian wrote: Roger Leigh wrote : On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 05:28:13PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Thursday 26 February 2009 16:34:38 Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/26/2009 03:20 PM, Urs Thuermann wrote: So, am I doing something completely wrong here? Ye

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/27/2009 11:33 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Thursday 26 February 2009 18:14:14 Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/26/2009 05:28 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: That is, unless you are trying to script the package manager. In that case I think apt-get or libapt are better choices. Then ap

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-27 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 05:24:19PM -0600, "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." was heard to say: > On Thursday 26 February 2009 15:20:58 Urs Thuermann wrote: > >which caused aptitude to run for an hour generating thousands of > >messages about resolving open/closed/defered dependency conflicts > >

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-27 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:39:49AM -0600, "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." was heard to say: > On Friday 27 February 2009 05:56:12 Roger Leigh wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 05:28:13PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > > Aptitude has been the recommended (by DDs) package manager > > > since Et

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 27 February 2009 07:15:23 thveillon.debian wrote: > But when running a system which is a mix of testing, sid and > experimental, plus a few debian-multimedia goodies thrown in, aptitude > performs better. Maybe I just happen to be in this case as well. I have main for stable(+security+

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 26 February 2009 18:14:14 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/26/2009 05:28 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > That is, unless you are trying to script the package manager. In that > > case I think apt-get or libapt are better choices. > > Then aptitude should remove the CLI interface and st

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 27 February 2009 05:56:12 Roger Leigh wrote: > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 05:28:13PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > Aptitude has been the recommended (by DDs) package manager > > since Etch was released. It has better dependency resolution, is more > > user-friendly, and is a bit

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-27 Thread green
On Fri, 2009-02-27, 058, thveillon.debian wrote: > But when running a system which is a mix of testing, sid and > experimental, plus a few debian-multimedia goodies thrown in, aptitude > performs better. In this situation I am really happy that aptitude is > showing me the nuts and bolts of the tri

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-27 Thread Bob Cox
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 13:15:23 +, thveillon.debian (thveillon.deb...@googlemail.com) wrote: > Hi, just sharing a user experience with aptitude, which I use. You do > have a point about apparent simplicity regarding apt-get, most of the > time it just seems to "work", period. It is all the

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-27 Thread thveillon.debian
Roger Leigh wrote : > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 05:28:13PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> On Thursday 26 February 2009 16:34:38 Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On 02/26/2009 03:20 PM, Urs Thuermann wrote: So, am I doing something completely wrong here? >>> Yes, you're using aptitude. Return to

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-27 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ron Johnson wrote: Yes, you're using aptitude. Return to the apt* which God intended us to use: apt-get. *That* must be the reason I use apt-get and not aptitude... Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-27 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 05:28:13PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Thursday 26 February 2009 16:34:38 Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 02/26/2009 03:20 PM, Urs Thuermann wrote: > > > So, am I doing something completely wrong here? > > > > Yes, you're using aptitude. Return to the apt* which God

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-27 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 05:31:29PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Thursday 26 February 2009 16:58:25 Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > Use aptitude in full-screen mode so you can see what is happening. > > I do this a lot and find it helpful--particularly when resolving dependency > conflict

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-26 Thread H.S.
Ron Johnson wrote: > > Yes, you're using aptitude. Return to the apt* which God intended us to > use: apt-get. > Whaa?!??! Wait a sec. This just an unsubstantiated claim. Since I learned about aptitude (a few years ago?), I have been using it consistently. It gives more information than apt-g

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-26 Thread Celejar
On 26 Feb 2009 22:20:58 +0100 Urs Thuermann wrote: ... > 1. aptitude has the nice feature of marking packages that are install >automatically, qhich I always missed in apt-get. But every once in >a while I check the installed package with > > aptitude search . | grep ^i > >

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/26/2009 05:28 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Thursday 26 February 2009 16:34:38 Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/26/2009 03:20 PM, Urs Thuermann wrote: So, am I doing something completely wrong here? Yes, you're using aptitude. Return to the apt* which God intended us to use: apt-get. I

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-26 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 26 February 2009 16:58:25 Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > Use aptitude in full-screen mode so you can see what is happening. I do this a lot and find it helpful--particularly when resolving dependency conflicts. Still the CUI is no substitute for knowing how to use the aptitude command- li

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-26 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 26 February 2009 16:34:38 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/26/2009 03:20 PM, Urs Thuermann wrote: > > So, am I doing something completely wrong here? > > Yes, you're using aptitude. Return to the apt* which God intended > us to use: apt-get. Ignore Ron. Aptitude has been the recommended (b

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-26 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 26 February 2009 15:20:58 Urs Thuermann wrote: > I use Debian testing on 2 desktop machines and a notebook, the oldest > of them is 4-5 years old. While in the begining I found apt-get and > dpkg quite usable (but didn't like dselect), now aptitude tends more > and more to annoy me, fo

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-26 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:20:58PM +0100, Urs Thuermann wrote: > I use Debian testing on 2 desktop machines and a notebook, the oldest > of them is 4-5 years old. While in the begining I found apt-get and > dpkg quite usable (but didn't like dselect), now aptitude tends more > and more to annoy me

Re: package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/26/2009 03:20 PM, Urs Thuermann wrote: I use Debian testing on 2 desktop machines and a notebook, the oldest of them is 4-5 years old. While in the begining I found apt-get and dpkg quite usable (but didn't like dselect), now aptitude tends more and more to annoy me, for several reasons.

package management begins to annoy me

2009-02-26 Thread Urs Thuermann
I use Debian testing on 2 desktop machines and a notebook, the oldest of them is 4-5 years old. While in the begining I found apt-get and dpkg quite usable (but didn't like dselect), now aptitude tends more and more to annoy me, for several reasons. Maybe, and I hope so, this is only because i do