Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-12 Thread mm
On 1/11/21 11:54 PM, Thomas Amm wrote: > Am Sonntag, dem 10.01.2021 um 16:49 -0600 schrieb Nicholas Geovanis: >> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 9:39 AM mm wrote: >>> totally with you on this. >>> >>> but then do smth about the politically motivated techincal >>> discussion >>> starting with the subject

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-12 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
I just imagined some problem with external identity provider for own DNS record. That mean application should be sure that identiy provider is really in duty of providing authorization for my domain. That is not so easy. Is Secure DNS enough for it ? Best regards, Marek Mosiewicz W dniu pon,

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-12 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
W dniu sob, 09.01.2021 o godzinie 16∶33 -0600, użytkownik gru...@mailfence.com napisał: > On Sat, 9 Jan 2021, mm wrote: > > > > > On 1/9/21 6:27 PM, Marek Mosiewicz wrote: > > > W?dniu sob, 09.01.2021 o?godzinie 15?33?+0100, u?ytkownik mm > > > napisa?: > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Please

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-11 Thread Thomas Amm
Am Sonntag, dem 10.01.2021 um 16:49 -0600 schrieb Nicholas Geovanis: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 9:39 AM mm wrote: > > totally with you on this. > > > > but then do smth about the politically motivated techincal > > discussion > > starting with the subject line > > I second that motion. > >

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-11 Thread mm
On 1/11/21 12:15 AM, gru...@mailfence.com wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jan 2021, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 9:39 AM mm wrote: >> >>> totally with you on this. >>> >>> but then do smth about the politically motivated techincal discussion >>> starting with the subject line >>> >>

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-11 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 9 Jan 2021 17:18:27 -0500 Michael Grant wrote: ... > Have any of you noticed many providers now link your id to a mobile > number? It's under the auspices of better security, 2 factor > authentication. This is true, but it's also the way they attempt to > tie you to a real and single

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-11 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
W dniu sob, 09.01.2021 o godzinie 14∶56 -0600, użytkownik John Hasler napisał: > Marek writes: > > For example I have my own domain and I can switch email provider, > > so I > > could switch provider of social network server. > > > In fact as URL is not only email aware you could also use for > >

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread Dan Ritter
Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 6:05 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > > > John Hasler wrote: > > > It's also important to understand that NNTP is a peer to peer protocol. > > > Any group of NNTP servers configured to connect to each other form a > > > network. Anyone can run an NNTP

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread grumpy
On Sun, 10 Jan 2021, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 9:39 AM mm wrote: totally with you on this. but then do smth about the politically motivated techincal discussion starting with the subject line I second that motion. all in favor let go of your momma's teat and raise

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 6:05 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > > It's also important to understand that NNTP is a peer to peer protocol. > > Any group of NNTP servers configured to connect to each other form a > > network. Anyone can run an NNTP server. While it once required a VAX > >

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 9:39 AM mm wrote: > totally with you on this. > > but then do smth about the politically motivated techincal discussion > starting with the subject line > I second that motion. On 1/10/21 9:39 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > This is not the place for a political discussion.

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread mm
totally with you on this. but then do smth about the politically motivated techincal discussion starting with the subject line On 1/10/21 9:39 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > This is not the place for a political discussion. Please confine your > comments to debian technical questions. >

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread mm
bust it dude On 1/9/21 11:33 PM, gru...@mailfence.com wrote: > On Sat, 9 Jan 2021, mm wrote: > >> >> On 1/9/21 6:27 PM, Marek Mosiewicz wrote: >>> W?dniu sob, 09.01.2021 o?godzinie 15?33?+0100, u?ytkownik mm napisa?: Cheers, Please get your right wing propaganda elsewhere.

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread Rick Thomas
This is not the place for a political discussion. Please confine your comments to debian technical questions.

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread Will Mengarini
* mm [21-01/09=Sa 23:01 +0100]: >>> still strongly advice to put your perspective to revision >>> and retrospective in a truthful and honest manner. * gru...@mailfence.com [21-01/09=Sa 16:33 -0600]: >> and can i do that in stretch or do i need buster * Ben Caradoc-Davies [21-01/10=Su 13:15

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-09 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 10/01/2021 11:33, gru...@mailfence.com wrote: and can i do that in stretch or do i need buster Thanks you so much. This is by far the best contribution to this thread. :-D Kind regards, -- Ben Caradoc-Davies Director Transient Software Limited New Zealand

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-09 Thread Dan Ritter
John Hasler wrote: > It's also important to understand that NNTP is a peer to peer protocol. > Any group of NNTP servers configured to connect to each other form a > network. Anyone can run an NNTP server. While it once required a VAX > with a T1 to act as a Usenet "backbone" site any desktop

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-09 Thread grumpy
On Sat, 9 Jan 2021, mm wrote: On 1/9/21 6:27 PM, Marek Mosiewicz wrote: W?dniu sob, 09.01.2021 o?godzinie 15?33?+0100, u?ytkownik mm napisa?: Cheers, Please get your right wing propaganda elsewhere. If you deem yourself intelligent you have to revise your understanding of the words: 1.

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-09 Thread mm
On 1/9/21 6:27 PM, Marek Mosiewicz wrote: > W dniu sob, 09.01.2021 o godzinie 15∶33 +0100, użytkownik mm napisał: >> Cheers, >> >> Please get your right wing propaganda elsewhere. >> >> If you deem yourself intelligent you have to revise your >> understanding >> of the words: >> >> 1. freedom >>

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-09 Thread Michael Grant
I'm not sure this is the proper forum for this thread but it is something I have interest in. I also ran one of the early usenet nodes. One of the shames of usenet is that it was quite useful at one point and then it's signal to noise ratio went so far down it was unusable. Mailing lists

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-09 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
W dniu sob, 09.01.2021 o godzinie 15∶33 +0100, użytkownik mm napisał: > Cheers, > > Please get your right wing propaganda elsewhere. > > If you deem yourself intelligent you have to revise your > understanding > of the words: > > 1. freedom > > 2. speech > > I for sure will not tolerate this

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-09 Thread John Hasler
Larry Dighera writes: > In the early '80s I ran a usenet HHTP node under Xenix using B News > (written in shell script). I ran it on an Onyx (but only as leaf node). -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-09 Thread John Hasler
Marek writes: > For example I have my own domain and I can switch email provider, so I > could switch provider of social network server. > In fact as URL is not only email aware you could also use for example > phone as identifier of your account and provide resolving of phone > number to social

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-09 Thread Larry Dighera
On Sat, 09 Jan 2021 12:03:50 -0600, John Hasler wrote: >Anyone can run an NNTP server. While it once required a VAX >with a T1 to act as a Usenet "backbone" site any desktop with broadband >can easily handle it now. Indeed. In the early '80s I ran a usenet HHTP node under Xenix using B News

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-09 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
I mean complete implementation of social network via email. I'm aware of news groups. What I however mean is full decentralized implementation of Facebook like social network via email. Depopopularization of news groups is also because of advent of social media. Facebook group is simialiar to

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-09 Thread John Hasler
Larry Dighera writes: > Today, usenet still exists albeit a skeleton of its former > incarnation. There are free News Network Transfer Protocol (NNTP) > servers available such as nntp.aioe.org and free-usenet.com, and paid > servers like news.giganews.com. There are free news reading clients >

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-09 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
I mean using private key, not to encrypt message, but to sign it. That is the case for fake likes and fake accounts.  GPG mutual addresses signing makes it much more diffcult to  create fake accounts. Cheers,    Marek Mosiewicz W dniu sob, 09.01.2021 o godzinie 08∶38 -0600, użytkownik Nicholas

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-09 Thread Larry Dighera
Sir, Are you suggesting that the usenet be re-invented? :-( Usenet is a decentralized e-mail based network system of communication conceived around the time that ARPANET was initiated ('70s) that has no central administrative body, and thus cannot be suppressed. Because of this inherent

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-09 Thread mm
Cheers, Please get your right wing propaganda elsewhere. If you deem yourself intelligent you have to revise your understanding of the words: 1. freedom 2. speech I for sure will not tolerate this white-washing soup mouth-full BS. On 1/9/21 12:57 PM, Marek Mosiewicz wrote: > In case

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-09 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
Email lists do not protect freedom of speech either. Encrypted email does not protect freedom of speech either. And there is no technological fix for failures in societies. On Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 8:27 AM Marek Mosiewicz wrote: > In case commercial social networks will not protect freedom of

po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-09 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
In case commercial social networks will not protect freedom of speach there is always option to use mailing lists. In fact I can imagine Twitter or Facebook as web based mail client which aggregates urls for messages publicated on anywhere in Web. Everbody who observes somebody will receive