Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-20 Thread B.Hoffmann
On Sun, 2006-03-19 at 11:15 -0500, Chris Metzler wrote: On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:47:59 -0800 Paul Johnson wrote: On Saturday 04 March 2006 22:29, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: steef wrote: Michael M. wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Thursday 02 March 2006 01:20, Star King of the

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-19 Thread Chris Metzler
On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:47:59 -0800 Paul Johnson wrote: On Saturday 04 March 2006 22:29, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: steef wrote: Michael M. wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Thursday 02 March 2006 01:20, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: I am very certain that Dell does sell

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-05 Thread John Schmidt
On Sunday 05 March 2006 00:47, Paul Johnson wrote: On Saturday 04 March 2006 22:29, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: steef wrote: Michael M. wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Thursday 02 March 2006 01:20, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: I am very certain that Dell does sell

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations? - slightly OT

2006-03-04 Thread B.Hoffmann
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 03:10:08 +0100, Paul Johnson wrote: On Thursday 02 March 2006 01:20, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: Andrew Cady wrote: snip I am very certain that Dell does sell servers that optionally have Linux, and even says this on their website. Nothing but lip service. I

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations? - slightly OT

2006-03-04 Thread B.Hoffmann
On Sat, 2006-03-04 at 13:04 +, B.Hoffmann wrote: with free calls from the UK to the US where their support centre was Sorry, I believe Quantex were a Canadian company actually. -- B.Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-04 Thread Star King of the Grape Trees
steef wrote: Michael M. wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Thursday 02 March 2006 01:20, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: I am very certain that Dell does sell servers that optionally have Linux, and even says this on their website. SNIP NOTE: Servers != Desktop. I have not seen _any_

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-04 Thread Katipo
Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: steef wrote: Michael M. wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Thursday 02 March 2006 01:20, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: I am very certain that Dell does sell servers that optionally have Linux, and even says this on their website. SNIP NOTE:

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-04 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 04 March 2006 22:29, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: steef wrote: Michael M. wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Thursday 02 March 2006 01:20, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: I am very certain that Dell does sell servers that optionally have Linux, and even says this on

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-03 Thread Michael M.
Paul Johnson wrote: On Thursday 02 March 2006 01:20, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: I am very certain that Dell does sell servers that optionally have Linux, and even says this on their website. Nothing but lip service. I tried this week, still no dice. They advertise it on their

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-03 Thread steef
Michael M. wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Thursday 02 March 2006 01:20, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: I am very certain that Dell does sell servers that optionally have Linux, and even says this on their website. Nothing but lip service. I tried this week, still no dice. They

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-03 Thread Paul Yasi
I was looking into HP laptops a few days ago, though I didn't buy one yet. I have a Powerbook right now that works OK with ubuntu, but doesn't have wifi support or a right mouse button. I was checking out the nc6220 and nc6230 on HP's website - they seem to have hardware that is supported by

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-03 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 03 March 2006 05:58, Michael M. wrote: Dell sells Linux workstations to businesses, they don't sell Linux desktops to average joes. They most certainly do not. I was trying to order for the company I work for. They just don't sell or support Linux. It's just false advertising and

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-02 Thread Star King of the Grape Trees
Andrew Cady wrote: snip (If you're thinking that just because Dell can't switch to Linux they have no power, consider that they *could* start shipping PCs with Firefox, or servers optionally with Linux, or PCs without OSes). I am very certain that Dell does sell servers that optionally

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-02 Thread Doofus
Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: Andrew Cady wrote: snip (If you're thinking that just because Dell can't switch to Linux they have no power, consider that they *could* start shipping PCs with Firefox, or servers optionally with Linux, or PCs without OSes). I am very certain that

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-02 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Britton Kerin wrote: I would like to buy my non-linux girlfriend a ready to use laptop with: wireless scan, falling back to CAT5 DHCP open office CD ROM that automounts SD card reader that automounts working sound card reasonable memory and disk working video

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-02 Thread Star King of the Grape Trees
Alvin Oga wrote: snip dell cuts corners by: a) making a custom motherboard b) making a custom power supply c) making custom cables and pcb to hold things together d) making custom firmware to assure you're stuck into their modus operandi e) charging you for 3yr warranty for their proprietory

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-02 Thread Marc Shapiro
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Britton Kerin wrote: I would like to buy my non-linux girlfriend a ready to use laptop with: wireless scan, falling back to CAT5 DHCP open office CD ROM that automounts SD card reader that automounts working sound card reasonable memory and disk

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 02 March 2006 01:20, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: Andrew Cady wrote: snip (If you're thinking that just because Dell can't switch to Linux they have no power, consider that they *could* start shipping PCs with Firefox, or servers optionally with Linux, or PCs without

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-02 Thread Ralph Katz
On 03/02/2006, Paul Johnson wrote: On Thursday 02 March 2006 01:20, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: Andrew Cady wrote: snip I am very certain that Dell does sell servers that optionally have Linux, and even says this on their website. Nothing but lip service. I tried this

ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-01 Thread Britton Kerin
I would like to buy my non-linux girlfriend a ready to use laptop with: wireless scan, falling back to CAT5 DHCP open office CD ROM that automounts SD card reader that automounts working sound card reasonable memory and disk working video acceleration (at least a bit)

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-01 Thread noc ops
So far my search has led me to www.system76.com for ubuntu laptops. Ask for Carl. Down to earth dude! I'd be interested in other leads as well. regards, /virendra Britton Kerin wrote: I would like to buy my non-linux girlfriend a ready to use laptop with: wireless scan, falling

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-01 Thread Star King of the Grape Trees
Britton Kerin wrote: I would like to buy my non-linux girlfriend a ready to use laptop with: wireless scan, falling back to CAT5 DHCP open office CD ROM that automounts SD card reader that automounts working sound card reasonable memory and disk working video acceleration (at

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-01 Thread M-L
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:25 am, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: Britton Kerin wrote: I would like to buy my non-linux girlfriend a ready to use laptop with: wireless scan, falling back to CAT5 DHCP open office CD ROM that automounts SD

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-01 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 11:35:18AM -0900, Britton Kerin wrote: I would like to buy my non-linux girlfriend a ready to use laptop with: wireless scan, falling back to CAT5 DHCP Hi Britton many new lappys have this so: this is a driver support and configuration issue open office

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-01 Thread Andrew Cady
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 05:56:05PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 01 March 2006 13:25, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: Windows is very expensive *UNLESS* you get some sort of volume discount or you purchase it with your computer. I have heard of places where windows cost $30

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 19:24, Andrew Cady wrote: On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 05:56:05PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 01 March 2006 13:25, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: Windows is very expensive *UNLESS* you get some sort of volume discount or you purchase it with your

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-01 Thread Andrew Cady
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 07:29:15PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 01 March 2006 19:24, Andrew Cady wrote: On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 05:56:05PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 01 March 2006 13:25, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: Windows is very expensive *UNLESS* you

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-01 Thread John Hasler
Paul Johnson writes: Microsoft's OEM list price for Windows XP Pro is US$135.00 right now... However, there is no way to know what any given OEM actually pays. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-01 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
Britton Kerin wrote: I would like to buy my non-linux girlfriend a ready to use laptop with: wireless scan, falling back to CAT5 DHCP open office CD ROM that automounts SD card reader that automounts working sound card reasonable memory and disk working video acceleration (at

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-01 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 22:37, Andrew Cady wrote: On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 07:29:15PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 01 March 2006 19:24, Andrew Cady wrote: On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 05:56:05PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 01 March 2006 13:25, Star King of the Grape

Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-01 Thread Alvin Oga
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Paul Johnson wrote: Dell is not paying $135 for a copy of Windows. Are you sure? Look how they cut corners on hardware right up through the midrange. dell cuts corners by: a) making a custom motherboard b) making a custom power supply c) making custom cables and pcb