On 2007-08-06 20:05:44 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
Can you describe the breakage? I've found that packages that rely on
python for a GUI break (GUI freezes), I've always blamed it on the GUI.
Base python itself I've never had break.
Here are some of them I've recorded:
In May (this one
On 2007-08-07 01:10:51 +, s. keeling wrote:
You should not be running unstable. This is what stable, and Debian
itself, were created for. Sorry, no sympathy from here.
Stable is outdated, doesn't run on recent hardware and is more buggy
than unstable (because bugs remain unfixed, except
On 2007-08-06 18:48:58 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 07:40:08PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 08/06/07 18:42, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
This is based on personal experience. Unfortunately I haven't kept
statistics, but I'd say, taking into account the serious
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On 08/07/07 04:57, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2007-08-06 20:05:44 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
Can you describe the breakage? I've found that packages that rely on
python for a GUI break (GUI freezes), I've always blamed it on the GUI.
Base
On 2007-08-07 06:14:17 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
Two responses:
1. That's not many breakages.
As I've said, I didn't recorded all of them (you probably can find
other ones on the bug pages of python-related packages).
(And one of them is OSX!!!)
Yes, I wanted to point out that problems are
On 2007-08-05 21:21:21 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
Vincent Lefèvre writes:
These kinds of answers really become annoying. Why should I if
there is a better solution?
What is it?
Just look at the subject of this thread.
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On 2007-08-05 23:01:24 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
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On 08/05/07 20:33, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2007-08-05 17:46:41 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
python-apt broke, and was fixed soon after. Unless you are running
Stable, you are supposed to
Vincent Lefèvre writes:
Just look at the subject of this thread.
Threads drift. What is your better solution to the general problem of
brokenness in Unstable?
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On 08/06/07 04:18, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2007-08-05 23:01:24 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
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On 08/05/07 20:33, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2007-08-05 17:46:41 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
python-apt
John Hasler wrote:
Vincent Lefèvre writes:
Just look at the subject of this thread.
Threads drift. What is your better solution to the general problem of
brokenness in Unstable?
Brokenness in Unstable:
1. Research Bugs + google lists.
2. If you find a hit apply the fix.
3. If not, wait a
John Hasler wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
python-apt broke, and was fixed soon after. Unless you are running
Stable, you are supposed to tolerate this kind of activity.
Vincent Lefèvre writes:
These kinds of answers really become annoying. Why should I if there is a
better solution?
What
On 2007-08-06 08:16:08 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
Your original question was woefully lacking in detail.
I didn't want to enter into technical details as this would lead to
nowhere, IMHO.
I've reported the problem. The bug was tagged as wontfix
because the maintainer of the
(or 3rd-party software) that would have similar
features. Hence my question: replacement for apt-listchanges?
Note: there's also the solution to modify /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20listchanges
but this is not a 100% satisfactory solution (because conffile handling
in Debian is sometimes buggy).
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On 08/06/07 14:37, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2007-08-06 08:16:08 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
[snip]
Or maybe you now need to file a bug saying that it returns 0 even
in a failure condition.
I suggested that as a simple workaround. The maintainer
(or at least in a better way). So, I sought to replace apt-listchanges
by another package (or 3rd-party software) that would have similar
features. Hence my question: replacement for apt-listchanges?
And this is what you should have told us in the first place. You'd
have gotten a HELL of a better
On 2007-08-06 08:04:16 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Brokenness in Unstable:
1. Research Bugs + google lists.
2. If you find a hit apply the fix.
3. If not, wait a while and upgrade again.
Unstable being Unstable this is the best possible solution.
No, you forgot: tools to handle
On 2007-08-06 12:08:50 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
To the OP, sadly there is no alternative for apt-listchanges other than
manually going to http://packages.debian.org/changelog:packagename and
checking out the changelogs manually.
Yes, and this isn't easy when one has upgraded
On 2007-08-06 15:13:10 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
because breakage due to python occurs too frequently), it is important
I still don't have any evidence that python breaks frequently.
This is based on personal experience. Unfortunately I haven't kept
statistics, but I'd say, taking into
On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 01:42:25AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2007-08-06 15:13:10 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
because breakage due to python occurs too frequently), it is important
I still don't have any evidence that python breaks frequently.
This is based on personal experience.
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On 08/06/07 18:42, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2007-08-06 15:13:10 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
because breakage due to python occurs too frequently), it is important
I still don't have any evidence that python breaks frequently.
This is based on
Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 2007-08-06 15:13:10 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
because breakage due to python occurs too frequently), it is important
I still don't have any evidence that python breaks frequently.
This is based on personal experience. Unfortunately I haven't kept
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 07:40:08PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 08/06/07 18:42, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2007-08-06 15:13:10 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
because breakage due to python occurs too frequently), it is important
I still don't have any evidence that python breaks frequently.
Is there a replacement for apt-listchanges, not written in python?
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Hi Vincent.
Vincent Lefevre, 05.08.2007 20:36:
Is there a replacement for apt-listchanges, not written in python?
Not that I knew of. What’s the problem with apt-listchanges written in Python?
Regards, Mathias
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On 2007-08-05 21:56:00 +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote:
Vincent Lefevre, 05.08.2007 20:36:
Is there a replacement for apt-listchanges, not written in python?
Not that I knew of. What’s the problem with apt-listchanges written
in Python?
Python breaks too often (at least on Debian
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On 08/05/07 15:59, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2007-08-05 21:56:00 +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote:
Vincent Lefevre, 05.08.2007 20:36:
Is there a replacement for apt-listchanges, not written in python?
Not that I knew of. What’s the problem with apt
On 2007-08-05 16:53:44 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 08/05/07 15:59, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
Python breaks too often (at least on Debian). The problem is that in
Can you be more specific. It's been a while since I've seen it break.
It broke a few days ago:
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On 08/05/07 17:08, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2007-08-05 16:53:44 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 08/05/07 15:59, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
Python breaks too often (at least on Debian). The problem is that in
Can you be more specific. It's been a
On 2007-08-05 17:46:41 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
python-apt broke, and was fixed soon after. Unless you are running
Stable, you are supposed to tolerate this kind of activity.
These kinds of answers really become annoying. Why should I if there
is a better solution?
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Ron Johnson wrote:
python-apt broke, and was fixed soon after. Unless you are running
Stable, you are supposed to tolerate this kind of activity.
Vincent Lefèvre writes:
These kinds of answers really become annoying. Why should I if there is a
better solution?
What is it?
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On 08/05/07 20:33, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2007-08-05 17:46:41 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
python-apt broke, and was fixed soon after. Unless you are running
Stable, you are supposed to tolerate this kind of activity.
These kinds of answers
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