Re: Upgrades vs Reinstalls (was Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem)

2007-03-02 Thread Michael M.
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 23:17 -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote: > Well, I'm not exactly the world's most experienced systems > administrator - in fact, the term "incompetent amateur" is perhaps > more like it ;-) So it might be a bit more onerous for me than for > others. I've been running Etch for so

Re: Upgrades vs Reinstalls (was Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem)

2007-03-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/02/07 01:17, Arlie Stephens wrote: > On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] >> Now, you've got to upgrade from Woody to Sarge and then soon >> upgrade from Sarge to Etch. That 2-step process is much slower >> and error-prone than the one-st

Solved: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Arlie Stephens
On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: > > The problem - I tried to upgrade an elderly system from woody to > > sarge. Now it doesn't boot. I suspect the upgrade ate the master boot > > record - but I don't even know the right terminology to figure out > > wh

Upgrades vs Reinstalls (was Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem)

2007-03-01 Thread Arlie Stephens
On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > *sigh* You are the second person to suggest in effect never actually > > upgrading a debian system, > > We'd *never* say that. Well, what the other fellow said was that in his shop, they prefer to reinstall from scratch, at least when going from woody

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 19:10, Arlie Stephens wrote: > On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 03/01/07 18:22, Arlie Stephens wrote: >>> On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: >> [snip] >>> I'll make one tonight, and try

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Arlie Stephens
On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/01/07 18:22, Arlie Stephens wrote: > > On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: > > > [snip] > > I'll make one tonight, and try re-installing LILO. > > Then I'll doubtless be on to the next problem, but it's a stag

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 18:22, Arlie Stephens wrote: > On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: > [snip] > I'll make one tonight, and try re-installing LILO. > Then I'll doubtless be on to the next problem, but it's a stage

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Arlie Stephens
On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: > > The problem - I tried to upgrade an elderly system from woody to > > sarge. Now it doesn't boot. I suspect the upgrade ate the master boot > > record - but I don't even know the right terminology to figure out > > wh

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I'm hoping the collective wisdom of this list can point me at the > right TFM. I'm also somewhat inclined to vent. > > The problem - I tried to upgrade an elderly system from woody to > sarge.

sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Arlie Stephens
Hi Folks, I'm hoping the collective wisdom of this list can point me at the right TFM. I'm also somewhat inclined to vent. The problem - I tried to upgrade an elderly system from woody to sarge. Now it doesn't boot. I suspect the upgrade ate the master boot record - but I don't even know the righ