Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-25 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA
Bonjour, Le dimanche 25 février 2024, Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE a écrit... > Néanmoins, il me reste un espace non utilisé en fin de disque. > Quand j'aurai un moment, je rajouterai quelques giga sur / afin de ne plus > me retrouver en difficulté par manque d'espace. Je ne sais pas si

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-25 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
Bonjour Désolé pour ce retour tardif. Je vous confirme que tout est OK, mon système fonctionne normalement et je n'ai pour l'heure rencontré aucun probleme. Oui effectivement, les partitions sont complètement entremêlées et réparties sur 3 partitions. sda1 qui contient / sda2 qui contient sda5

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-17 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 17 février 2024 Alban Vidal a écrit : > Pour éviter des soucis d'espace disque à l'avenir, je pense qu'il serait > judicieux de redimensionner un peu les partitions, en en retirant un peu dans > le /opt ou /home pour en mettre un peu plus sur la racine (/), 2 ou 3G par > exemple. Je pense que

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-17 Thread Alban Vidal
Bonsoir Hugues, Très bonne nouvelle ! Pour éviter des soucis d'espace disque à l'avenir, je pense qu'il serait judicieux de redimensionner un peu les partitions, en en retirant un peu dans le /opt ou /home pour en mettre un peu plus sur la racine (/), 2 ou 3G par exemple. Pour ce faire, le

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-17 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
Re bonjour Je viens d'exécuter le apt full-upgrade. Je pensais que ça allait prendre un peu de temps mais ça a été rapide, tous les paquets étaient déjà à jour :) J'ai redémarré et tout semble fonctionner. J'ai effectué quelques mises a jour et preparé l'upgrade a la version suivante comme

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-17 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
Salut Merci Gilles pour ta confirmation J'ai plus qu'a ... ;) Bonne journée Hugues Le ven. 16 févr. 2024 à 18:56, Gilles Mocellin < gilles.mocel...@nuagelibre.org> a écrit : > Le vendredi 16 février 2024, 18:43:58 CET Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE a écrit : > > Salut > > > > Merci pour tous ces

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-16 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le vendredi 16 février 2024, 18:43:58 CET Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE a écrit : > Salut > > Merci pour tous ces conseils, je garde ça précieusement pour les prochains > upgrade car j'ai l'intention d'upgrader jusqu'à la dernière version stable. > > Sinon, j'ai lancé le processus d'upgrade comme nous

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-16 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
écrivant, j'upgrade de bien de > > Stretch à Buster ;-) > > Tant mieux ;) > C'est toujours bon de préciser pour les futurs lecteurs ! > > > > Donc je récapitule pour voir si j'ai bien compris: - ps pour trouver > > le PID d'apt - killall -9 "PID d'apt" - d

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-15 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le lundi 12 février 2024, 19:23:39 CET Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE a écrit : > Salut > > Merci pour l'info > > Malheureusement même si j'entrevois de quoi tu parles, je ne sais pas trop > comment faire en pratique. > > Donc si je comprends bien, maintenant que j'ai fait de la place, il faut > que

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-13 Thread zithro
On 13 Feb 2024 10:31, Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE wrote: @zithro / Cyril: je me suis trompé en écrivant, j'upgrade de bien de Stretch à Buster ;-) Tant mieux ;) C'est toujours bon de préciser pour les futurs lecteurs ! Donc je récapitule pour voir si j'ai bien compris: - ps pour trouver le PID

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-13 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
Bonjour Merci à tous pour votre aide :) @zithro / Cyril: je me suis trompé en écrivant, j'upgrade de bien de Stretch à Buster ;-) Donc je récapitule pour voir si j'ai bien compris: - ps pour trouver le PID d'apt - killall -9 "PID d'apt" - dpkg-reconfigure - apt upgrade --withou

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-13 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 12 février 2024 Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE a écrit : > Avec le recul, aujourd'hui, je ne ferai que des partitions pour /home, /var > et /opt. /home et /opt il faut voir selon tes applis. Mais si /var est saturé ça bloque tout le système à cause des logs qui ne peuvent plus se faire. > Est ce que

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 8:57 PM Gilles Mocellin wrote: > > Le lundi 12 février 2024, 19:23:39 CET Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE a écrit : > > Salut > > > > Merci pour l'info > > > > Malheureusement même si j'entrevois de quoi tu parles, je ne sais pas trop > > comment faire en pratique. > > > > Donc

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-12 Thread zithro
On 12 Feb 2024 08:00, Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE wrote: Bonjour a tous Je reviens vers vous car je ne sais pas comment m'y prendre pour réparer un crash lors d'un apt full-upgrade lors d'un passage de Stretch a Bullseye. Ca fonctionne peut-être, mais ce n'est pas la manière recommandée

Re : Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-12 Thread nicolas . patrois
On 12/02/2024 19:23:39, Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE wrote: > Pour trouver le pid d'apt, c'est à l'aide de la commande ps? > Et apres kill "n° de pid" > Est ce qu'il y a autre chose a faire pour killer le processus d'apt? Tu peux tuer un processus en utilisant son nom avec la commande killall, qui

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-12 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
Salut Merci pour l'info Malheureusement même si j'entrevois de quoi tu parles, je ne sais pas trop comment faire en pratique. Donc si je comprends bien, maintenant que j'ai fait de la place, il faut que je relance la commande apt full-upgrade Mais avant cela, je dois killer le pid de apt et

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-12 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
Salut C'est un système qui à l'origine avait été installé en Wheezy ou Jessie et que j'ai upgradé. Je n'avais pas autant de connaissance que maintenant et il m'avait semblé plus judicieux de faire une partition par montage. Je me disais que ca serait surement plus simple de restaurer le système

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-12 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 12 février 2024 Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE a écrit : > J'ai effectivement vu ce message mais je n'en avais pas compris la raison. > Néanmoins, au vue de df -TPh, je m’aperçois que ma partition racine et > /boot son bien "chargées". > Est ce que le problème pourrait provenir de la? Le message

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-12 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
rdialement, > Alban > > > Le 12 février 2024 08:00:00 GMT+01:00, Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE < > mor...@gmail.com> a écrit : > >> Bonjour a tous >> >> >> Je reviens vers vous car je ne sais pas comment m'y prendre pour réparer >> un crash lors d'

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-11 Thread Alban Vidal
gues MORIN-TRENEULE a écrit : >Bonjour a tous > > >Je reviens vers vous car je ne sais pas comment m'y prendre pour réparer un >crash lors d'un apt full-upgrade lors d'un passage de Stretch a Bullseye. > >Il y a quelques temps vos conseils et explications mon permis de de mettre

Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-11 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
Bonjour a tous Je reviens vers vous car je ne sais pas comment m'y prendre pour réparer un crash lors d'un apt full-upgrade lors d'un passage de Stretch a Bullseye. Il y a quelques temps vos conseils et explications mon permis de de mettre a jours mon Stretch afin de le préparer à l'upgrade

Re: Mise à jours et Update Stretch - Problème de dépôt

2024-01-12 Thread NoSpam
volatile n'a effectivement aucune utilité (sur mon système). J'ai ensuite checker les dépôt archive.debian. org afin de vérifier s'il contenait des mises à jour mais il n'y en avait pas. J'ai poursuivi avec les dépôts ELTS que cite Daniel en suivant la procédure qu'il a donné. Mon Stretch

Re: Mise à jours et Update Stretch - Problème de dépôt

2024-01-12 Thread ajh-valmer
Hello, Il y a trop d'écart entre Stretch et Bookworm, et des distributions Debian ne sont plus maintenues. Dans ces conditions, si on a une partition /home séparée de la partition système, mieux vaut faire une installation à neuf, ça va très vite ~15Go. > ... > J'ai alors lancé dans la fou

Re: Mise à jours et Update Stretch - Problème de dépôt

2024-01-12 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
ensuite checker les dépôt archive.debian. org afin de vérifier s'il contenait des mises à jour mais il n'y en avait pas. J'ai poursuivi avec les dépôts ELTS que cite Daniel en suivant la procédure qu'il a donné. Mon Stretch étant alors à jour j'ai commencé l'upgrade vers Buster. La mise à niveau

Re: Mise à jours et Update Stretch - Problème de dépôt

2023-08-31 Thread Daniel SAUVARD
Bonjour. Depuis l'année dernière, Debian n'assure plus le support de Stretch (fin du support LTS). Un support partiel reste possible via le projet Extended Long Term Support (ELTS, https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Extended ; pour 5 ans, soit jusqu'au 2027-06-30). Il faut supprimer les dépôts

Re: Mise à jours et Update Stretch - Problème de dépôt

2023-08-30 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
Bonjour Merci à tous pour vos réponses et vos conseils, maintenant ... yapluka ;-) Je vais faire des upgrade successif car je tiens a garder la configuration de certains programme. Concernant les dépôts "security" et "volatile", je ne sais quels sont les paquets qui en dépendent. Je vais

Re: Mise à jours et Update Stretch - Problème de dépôt

2023-08-29 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 29 août 2023 Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE a écrit : > Concernant les dépôts "security" et "volatile", existe-t-il aussi des > dépôts archive que je pourrai utiliser? Le mieux est de les commenter durant les upgrade et de les rebrancher seulement quand tout est stabilisé pour un ultime upgrade. C'est

Re: Mise à jours et Update Stretch - Problème de dépôt

2023-08-29 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour, Le 2023-08-29 13:53, Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE a écrit : Pour le dépot principal (http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch) , en cherchant, j'ai trouvé le depot archive Debian: http://archive.debian.org/debian Est ce que vous pourriez me confirmer qu'il me permettra de mettre les paquets

Re: Mise à jours et Update Stretch - Problème de dépôt

2023-08-29 Thread Haricophile
Le Tue, 29 Aug 2023 13:53:13 +0200, Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE a écrit : > Pour le dépot principal (http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch) , > en cherchant, j'ai trouvé le depot archive Debian: > http://archive.debian.org/debian > Est ce que vous pourriez me confirmer qu'il me permett

Mise à jours et Update Stretch - Problème de dépôt

2023-08-29 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
Salut à tous J'ai fait une boulette, je n'ai pas upgradé . A force de me procrastiner l'upgrade d'une machine sous Stretch dont je me sers occasionnellement, je me trouve un peu embêter aujourd'hui. En voulant faire un petit check des mises à jour, je me suis aperçu que les dépôts Stretch

Re: Debian 9 stretch - ebtables package

2023-05-15 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 08:11:50PM +0530, amit agari wrote: > Has ebtables package been removed from Debian 9 stretch distribution? stretch is EOL so the entire distribution has been "removed" to archive.debian.org. But after putting archive.debian.org in your /etc/apt/sou

Re: Debian 9 stretch - ebtables package

2023-05-15 Thread David Wright
On Mon 15 May 2023 at 20:11:50 (+0530), amit agari wrote: > Has ebtables package been removed from Debian 9 stretch distribution? http://archive.debian.org/debian/pool/main/e/ebtables/ appears to have ebtables_2.0.10.4-3.5+b1_amd64.deb which is probably what you're looking for. Cheers, David.

Debian 9 stretch - ebtables package

2023-05-15 Thread amit agari
Hi, Has ebtables package been removed from Debian 9 stretch distribution? Regards

Re: debian stretch Sources update error,can anyone support?

2023-04-27 Thread Tim Woodall
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 05:08:10PM +0800, justzx wrote: Error message: Ign:39 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates/non-free Sources Stretch (Debian 9) probably no longer has a debian-security repo, if it was recently

Re: debian stretch Sources update error,can anyone support?

2023-04-27 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 17:08:10 +0800 justzx wrote: Hello justzx, >W: The repository 'http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian-current >stretch-backports Release' does not have a Release file. Usually means your url is malformed. The 404 errors later seem to corroborate this. See http

Re: debian stretch Sources update error,can anyone support?

2023-04-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 05:08:10PM +0800, justzx wrote: > Error message: > > Ign:39 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian-security > stretch/updates/non-free Sources Stretch (Debian 9) probably no longer has a debian-security repo, if it was recently moved to the archive. Remo

debian stretch Sources update error,can anyone support?

2023-04-27 Thread justzx
Error message: Ign:39 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates/non-free Sources Ign:40 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates/contrib Sources Ign:41 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates/main amd64 Packages Ign:42 http

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

2023-04-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 05:34:36 +0100 (BST) Tim Woodall wrote: > On Fri, 14 Apr 2023, Charles Curley wrote: > > [...] > [...] > [...] > That page is out of date. On the LTS page itself: > > Debian 9 "Stretch" > > i386, amd64, armel, armhf

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

2023-04-15 Thread Anssi Saari
Charles Curley writes: > On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 19:41:37 +0100 > Brian wrote: > >> I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come >> from? > > Stretch is oldoldstable, and under LTS support. > https://www.debian.org/releases/ Actually LTS su

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

2023-04-14 Thread David
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 at 04:24, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Fri, 14 Apr 2023, Brian wrote: > >>> I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come > >>> from? > It's been moved to archive.debian.org. Just hasn't been deleted from the > main rep

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

2023-04-14 Thread Tim Woodall
On Fri, 14 Apr 2023, Charles Curley wrote: On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 19:41:37 +0100 Brian wrote: I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come from? Stretch is oldoldstable, and under LTS support. https://www.debian.org/releases/ That page is out of date. On the LTS

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

2023-04-14 Thread Tim Woodall
On Fri, 14 Apr 2023, Brian wrote: I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come from? It may or may not be supported, but it's still there AFAICT: [DIR] binary-amd64/ 2021-08-14 07:43 [ ] Packages.gz 2020-07-18 10:409.2M [ ] base-files_9.9

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

2023-04-14 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 19:41:37 +0100 Brian wrote: > I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come > from? Stretch is oldoldstable, and under LTS support. https://www.debian.org/releases/ I would encourage the original poster to consider installing bullseye rathe

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

2023-04-14 Thread davidson
On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 Brian wrote: On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 18:48:06 +0200, Bernard wrote: Hi to Everyone, I am writing from my laptop on Ubuntu, but the problem I have is with my Desktop running Debian Stretch. Having unfortunately Okayed a proposal

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

2023-04-14 Thread The Wanderer
On 2023-04-14 at 15:53, davidson wrote: > On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 Brian wrote: > >> On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 18:48:06 +0200, Bernard wrote: >> >>> Hi to Everyone, >>> >>> I am writing from my laptop on Ubuntu, but the problem I have is >>> with m

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

2023-04-14 Thread davidson
On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 Brian wrote: On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 18:48:06 +0200, Bernard wrote: Hi to Everyone, I am writing from my laptop on Ubuntu, but the problem I have is with my Desktop running Debian Stretch. Having unfortunately Okayed a proposal for an update (which I rarely do…), upon

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

2023-04-14 Thread David Wright
On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 19:41:37 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 18:48:06 +0200, Bernard wrote: > > I am writing from my laptop on Ubuntu, but the problem I have is with my > > Desktop running Debian Stretch. > > Having unfortunately Okayed a proposal for an upda

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

2023-04-14 Thread songbird
Bernard wrote: ... > How can I get back to my old system prior to this failed update ? What > else can I do ? > > Thanks in advance for your help in restoring my system take a look at the files in /var/log/apt history should tell you what was updated last and you could try to install a

Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

2023-04-14 Thread Bernard
Hi to Everyone, I am writing from my laptop on Ubuntu, but the problem I have is with my Desktop running Debian Stretch. Having unfortunately Okayed a proposal for an update (which I rarely do…), upon restarting the system fails to launch X server. My /var/log/messages are available at http

Re: debian stretch wine

2022-11-30 Thread karl
mattias: > Är verkligen wine 5.1x det lägsta för stretch? Enl. https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=wine=names=all=all så har stretch v1.8.7, ska du ha 5.0.3 är den anpassad till bullseye. > Går inte uppgradera då hälften av speglarna är döda Finns det åtminstonde en

debian stretch wine

2022-11-30 Thread mattias
Jaja jag vet att stretch är tämligen gammaltMen har inget valÄr verkligen wine 5.1x det lägsta för stretch?Går inte uppgradera då hälften av speglarna är dödaMen går väll inte ta wine från debian 10 och köra in? Skickades från E-post för Windows 

Re: Set timing to go into hibernation {Debian Stretch}

2022-09-13 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/13/2022 08:28 AM, Roger Price wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2022, Richard Owlett wrote: It's been so long since I set up Debian I've forgotten how to set timing for going into hibernation. It's currently set for a much to primare panel has large a delay. Where do I look for instructions and

Re: Set timing to go into hibernation {Debian Stretch}

2022-09-13 Thread Roger Price
On Tue, 13 Sep 2022, Richard Owlett wrote: It's been so long since I set up Debian I've forgotten how to set timing for going into hibernation. It's currently set for a much to large a delay. Where do I look for instructions and descriptions? I use Right Click on screen, and then

Set timing to go into hibernation {Debian Stretch}

2022-09-13 Thread Richard Owlett
It's been so long since I set up Debian I've forgotten how to set timing for going into hibernation. It's currently set for a much to large a delay. Where do I look for instructions and descriptions? TIA

LibreOffice 7.3.4 no se inicia en Stretch

2022-07-02 Thread Camaleón
ior a la que trae Strecth (3.26). LO 7.3.3.2 funciona sin problemas. El bug (aunque más que un bug más bien es un nuevo requerimiento, pero que debería estar indicado en alguna parte) lo he puesto aquí: Bug 149813 - LibreOffice 7.3.4 not opening on Debian Stretch, requires libnss3.so version 3

Finaliza el soporte extendido de Debian 9 (Stretch)

2022-07-01 Thread Camaleón
Hola, Pues eso, que hoy finaliza el soporte extendido para Debian 9, que ya no tendrá actualizaciones: [SECURITY] [DLA 3067-1] Debian 9 Long Term Support reaching end-of-life https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts-announce/2022/07/msg2.html A quienes la estamos usando, nos toca actualizar a

Re: stretch with bullseye kernel?

2022-05-04 Thread Richard Hector
On 4/05/22 18:57, Tixy wrote: On Wed, 2022-05-04 at 00:44 +0300, IL Ka wrote: Linux kernel is backward compatible. Linus calls it "we do not break userspace". That means _old_ applications should work on new kernel There's also the issue of what config options the kernel is built with. I'm

Re: stretch with bullseye kernel?

2022-05-04 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2022-05-04 at 00:44 +0300, IL Ka wrote: > Linux kernel is backward compatible. Linus calls it "we do not break > userspace". > That means _old_ applications should work on new kernel There's also the issue of what config options the kernel is built with. I'm sure there's been at least

Re: stretch with bullseye kernel?

2022-05-03 Thread IL Ka
Linux kernel is backward compatible. Linus calls it "we do not break userspace". That means _old_ applications should work on new kernel On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 12:40 AM Richard Hector wrote: > Hi all, > > For various reasons, I have some stretch LXC containers, on a buste

stretch with bullseye kernel?

2022-05-03 Thread Richard Hector
Hi all, For various reasons, I have some stretch LXC containers, on a buster host that I now need to upgrade. That will mean they end up running on buster's 5.10 kernel. Is that likely to be a problem? If so, I guess I can leave the host on buster's kernel for the time being, but that's

Bug#694068: Info received (wireless fail after stretch^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hbuster^H^H^H^H^H^Hbullseye installation)

2021-12-13 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this Bug report. This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message has been received. Your message is being forwarded to the package maintainers and other interested parties for their attention; they will

Re: Trunk-bond-vlan-bridge on KVM and LXC host Stretch x Buster

2021-11-30 Thread debbug
Hi, for the reference, the issue is solved by this config below.   Ales         ---   cat /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback #auto ens3f0 #iface  ens3f0 inet manual #auto ens3f1 #iface ens3f1 inet manual allow-hotplug ens3f0 iface  ens3f0 inet manual

Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye)

2021-08-20 Thread songbird
piorunz wrote: ... > New install would change network interface name anyway. net.ifnames=0 works for me in that regards. songbird

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-20 Thread Curt
On 2021-08-18, mick crane wrote: >> >> Not sure I see how that analogy applies. >> >> If the 'water' is the knowledge of upgrading Debian releases as present >> in the official release notes, then the chemical analysis is the advice >> on upgrading from this list? In that case, it seems the

Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye)

2021-08-20 Thread piorunz
On 20/08/2021 12:40, Greg Wooledge wrote: This line of thought probably comes from Windows, when any hardware change causes problems, drivers installation, it can refuse to boot, etc. Not a problem on Debian :) It can be. Any change to the hardware, or even the mobo firmware, can cause PCI

Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye)

2021-08-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:55:32AM +0100, piorunz wrote: > On 19/08/2021 13:21, songbird wrote: > > when i changed motherboards i figured it was worth a fresh > > install > > This line of thought probably comes from Windows, when any hardware > change causes problems, drivers installation, it can

Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye)

2021-08-20 Thread piorunz
On 19/08/2021 13:21, songbird wrote: when i changed motherboards i figured it was worth a fresh install This line of thought probably comes from Windows, when any hardware change causes problems, drivers installation, it can refuse to boot, etc. Not a problem on Debian :) Motherboard or even

Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye)

2021-08-20 Thread Anssi Saari
songbird writes: > Anssi Saari wrote: > ... >> And yes, the working upgrades are the reason I've stuck with Debian >> since Hamm. My ever evolving desktop computer is on its second >> installation now since I reinstalled when I switched to 64-bits >> somewhere in the decade before last. >

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-19 Thread Curt
On 2021-08-18, Tixy wrote: >> >> With a normal system, a shortened version of the upgrade procedure >> without the warnings and pre-checks and post-checks might be OK, >> but this is *Gene*. We know he does not have normal systems. >> >> He needs *all* of the warnings. >> > > I agree with all

Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye)

2021-08-19 Thread songbird
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: ... > Aside: I have never (to the best of my recollection) done an upgrade from one > version to the next, I install the new version on a clean disk (or new > system) > -- the only time I could envision doing an upgrade would be if stable became > a > rolling

Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye)

2021-08-19 Thread songbird
Anssi Saari wrote: ... > And yes, the working upgrades are the reason I've stuck with Debian > since Hamm. My ever evolving desktop computer is on its second > installation now since I reinstalled when I switched to 64-bits > somewhere in the decade before last. when i changed motherboards i

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-18 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-17 7:21 p.m., Brian wrote: > On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 22:48:34 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 11:05:44PM +0100, Brian wrote: >>> On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 16:54:54 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> >>>> Where do I f

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-18 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi On 2021-08-17 6:05 p.m., Brian wrote: > On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 16:54:54 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Where do I find the recipe to update stretch to buster? > > What, in this helpful thread, do you find difficult to understand? > > You have a collection of im

Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye)

2021-08-18 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:26:18AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 18 Aug 2021 at 07:39:26 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote: > > On 2021-08-17 at 13:36, Brian wrote: > > > On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 16:00:57 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > >> Do the update to Buster - take it as slow as you

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 August 2021 08:05:43 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 09:12:24AM +0100, Tixy wrote: > > On Wed, 2021-08-18 at 09:03 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:01:32PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 09:48:10PM

Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye)

2021-08-18 Thread David Wright
On Wed 18 Aug 2021 at 07:39:26 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-08-17 at 13:36, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 16:00:57 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > >> Do the update to Buster - take it as slow as you need to. Bring it > >> bang up to date. > >> > >> For the Buster to

Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye)

2021-08-18 Thread Anssi Saari
rhkra...@gmail.com writes: > But, if I did do an upgrade from one version to the next, it would not > surprise me if I forgot to read the upgrade notes. For me, the instructions for upgrading in the release notes are the only way I know how to find out how to upgrade Debian from one release to

Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye)

2021-08-18 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 07:39:26 AM The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-08-17 at 13:36, Brian wrote: > > Of course! Do users not do this as a standard procedure? :) > > I don't - because I don't upgrade from one stable release to another; I > track testing, continuously, throughout the

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-18 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 09:12:24AM +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Wed, 2021-08-18 at 09:03 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:01:32PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 09:48:10PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 17 August 2021 18:48:34

Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye)

2021-08-18 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-08-17 at 13:36, Brian wrote: > On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 16:00:57 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: >> Do the update to Buster - take it as slow as you need to. Bring it >> bang up to date. >> >> For the Buster to Bullseye - >> >> READ RELEASE NOTES :) > > Of course! Do users not do this as

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-18 Thread The Wanderer
d happen, and you appear not to have noticed, is > that the definition of "oldstable" changed under your feet from > "stretch" to "buster". So all of a sudden, you were 2588 packages out > of date for your main repository. What I interpreted Gene's statement abo

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-18 Thread piorunz
On 18/08/2021 07:57, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 01:53:16AM +0100, piorunz wrote: Why are you repeating this? Because Andrew is a nice person. Which I do appreciate highly. Why shouldn't he? Why would you not want him to do? Please see my other reply: "> Amazing

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-18 Thread mick crane
On 2021-08-18 09:32, Tixy wrote: On Wed, 2021-08-18 at 09:06 +0100, mick crane wrote: On 2021-08-18 08:40, Tixy wrote: > I agree with all of the above, but as the saying goes: 'you can lead a > horse to water, but you can't make him drink'. You can't blame a horse for wanting to see the

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-18 Thread piorunz
On 18/08/2021 08:40, Tixy wrote: I agree with all of the above, but as the saying goes: 'you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink'. Amazing analogy. Gene has been given plenty of water, but he keeps coming back for more while not taking even one sip yet. He failed to RTFM

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 August 2021 18:48:34 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 11:05:44PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 16:54:54 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Where do I find the recipe to update stretch to buster? > > > > What, in th

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-18 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2021-08-18 at 09:06 +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-08-18 08:40, Tixy wrote: > > > I agree with all of the above, but as the saying goes: 'you can lead a > > horse to water, but you can't make him drink'. > You can't blame a horse for wanting to see the chemical analysis of the >

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-18 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2021-08-18 at 09:03 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:01:32PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 09:48:10PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 17 August 2021 18:48:34 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > [an abridged version of the

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-18 Thread mick crane
On 2021-08-18 08:40, Tixy wrote: I agree with all of the above, but as the saying goes: 'you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink'. You can't blame a horse for wanting to see the chemical analysis of the water and checking the vicinity for corpses. mick -- Key ID

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-18 Thread Tixy
On Tue, 2021-08-17 at 22:01 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 09:48:10PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 17 August 2021 18:48:34 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > [an abridged version of the release notes] > > > Thank you Andy, thats more of the recipe I need to follow.

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-18 Thread tomas
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:01:32PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 09:48:10PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 17 August 2021 18:48:34 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > [an abridged version of the release notes] > > > Thank you Andy, thats more of the recipe I need to

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-18 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 01:53:16AM +0100, piorunz wrote: > On 17/08/2021 23:48, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > >Gene, > > > >You have two upgrades to do. > > > >One from stretch -> buster. 9-10 That takes you from 2017 -> 2019. > > > >If you can

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-17 Thread David Wright
On Wed 18 Aug 2021 at 01:53:16 (+0100), piorunz wrote: > On 17/08/2021 23:48, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > Gene, > > > > You have two upgrades to do. > > > > One from stretch -> buster. 9-10 That takes you from 2017 -> 2019. > > > > If you can

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 09:48:10PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 17 August 2021 18:48:34 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > [an abridged version of the release notes] > Thank you Andy, thats more of the recipe I need to follow. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett See, *this* is exactly what I tried to

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-17 Thread songbird
Dan Ritter wrote: ... > Tell us more about what you're doing, but also remember that you > can't skip stable versions in an upgrade - you need to upgrade > from stretch to buster, then to bullseye. yes. plus it is good to get rid of cruft if you don't need it so i woul

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 August 2021 18:48:34 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 11:05:44PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 16:54:54 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Where do I find the recipe to update stretch to buster? > > > > What, in th

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-17 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Tue, Aug 17 2021 at 08:01:46 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 17 August 2021 16:57:44 Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 04:54:54PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> > Where do I find the recipe to update stretch to buster? >> >> It's still at &g

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 August 2021 17:45:49 piorunz wrote: > On 17/08/2021 21:57, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 04:54:54PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Where do I find the recipe to update stretch to buster? > > > > It's still at > > <https

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-17 Thread piorunz
On 17/08/2021 23:48, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Gene, You have two upgrades to do. One from stretch -> buster. 9-10 That takes you from 2017 -> 2019. If you can reduce your /etc/apt/sources.list by commenting out third party repositories like Trinity, that will help. Why are you rep

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 August 2021 16:57:44 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 04:54:54PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Where do I find the recipe to update stretch to buster? > > It's still at > <https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/release-notes/>. Thats fin

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-17 Thread Brian
On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 22:48:34 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 11:05:44PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 16:54:54 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > Where do I find the recipe to update stretch to buster? > > > >

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