Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-15 Thread chris
do use an old kernel. >> >> Can LINUX update a kernel? >> >> Regards >> Sophie >> >> >> -- >> *Von:* chris >> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 7. Februar 2024 19:35 >> *An:* Schwibinger Michael >> *Betr

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-14 Thread chris
> *Von:* chris > *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 7. Februar 2024 19:35 > *An:* Schwibinger Michael > *Betreff:* Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work > > Very helpful ty > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024, 1:57 PM Schwibinger Michael wrote: > > Good afternoon. > &g

Can Linux update an old kernel [WAS Re: AW: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work]

2024-02-10 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
e anybody any actual *details* All best, as ever, Andy > Regards > Sophie > > > > Von: chris > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. Februar 2024 19:35 > An: Schwibinger Michael > Betreff: Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work > > Very he

AW: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-10 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Yes. I found out I do use an old kernel. Can LINUX update a kernel? Regards Sophie Von: chris Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. Februar 2024 19:35 An: Schwibinger Michael Betreff: Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work Very helpful ty On Wed, Feb 7, 2024, 1:57 PM

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-07 Thread chris
M.A. Cater > *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 31. Januar 2024 20:36 > *An:* debian-user@lists.debian.org ; > Schwibinger Michael > *Betreff:* Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 01:58:41PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > > Good afternoon > > I thin

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-07 Thread chris
. Januar 2024 18:44 > *An:* debian-user@lists.debian.org > *Betreff:* Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work > > > Am Freitag, 26. Januar 2024, 17:23:07 CET schrieben Sie: > > Yes, if you want to install soemthing for example by using the apt > command, best way is becoming root

Request for output of commands [WAS Re: AW: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work]

2024-02-07 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
gt; Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Januar 2024 20:36 > An: debian-user@lists.debian.org ; Schwibinger > Michael > Betreff: Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 01:58:41PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > > Good afternoon > > I think > > maybe

AW: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-07 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good afternoon I did send the bugreport. Thank You. Did anybody use the rescue mode? Regards Sophie Von: Andrew M.A. Cater Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Januar 2024 20:36 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org ; Schwibinger Michael Betreff: Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo

AW: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-07 Thread Schwibinger Michael
: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work Hi Hans, On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 10:23:09AM +0100, Hans wrote: > I see this exactly as you and are watching this list for may years. I'm not sure who you're replying to as you've removed those details, though I may guess from your In-Reply-To he

AW: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-07 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good afternoon. The bug report sudo ... You are not in the sudoers file. Regards Sophie Von: Hans Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Januar 2024 18:44 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work Am Freitag, 26. Januar 2024, 17:23:07 CET

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-02 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 7:17 PM Schwibinger Michael wrote: > Good afternoon > > Before there was panic > > su > su - > sudo > did work. > > Somebody does have experience with > rescue mode? > If you are in Single User Mode you are already root and do not nee

AW: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-02 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good afternoon Before there was panic su su - sudo did work. Somebody does have experience with rescue mode? Regards Sophie Von: Greg Wooledge Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Januar 2024 17:45 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont

Re: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-02 Thread CL
think, nobody is so stupid, that he/she can not do a su or install a package. NOT after 2 years!!! For me, I will get no help here for this person, just ignore it. This is my very personal decision! Sorry to say it, but for me personally it looks like fake! Like a morone, like a troll. And those

Re: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-02 Thread Christian Lorenz
C does have only one user=admin. >> > >> > Regards Sophie >> > Is it the rescue mode? >> >> Explain, please. >> >> Your Subject: header says "su su- sudo dont work". What does this MEAN? >> >> Please show us your attempts

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-31 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 01:58:41PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > Good afternoon > I think > maybe Im sure > it is because of rescue mode. > Hi Sophie, Once again: we need to you to show us what commands you run. We need to see error messages. if you cannot run sudo or su,

AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-31 Thread Schwibinger Michael
@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: AW: su su- sudo dont work On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 03:53:10PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > Good afternoon > Why do I have to open a group? > This is to *tell* us information about why you're having problems with su and sudo Running the id command s

AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-27 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good afternoon Thank You There is only one password. The problem was created until the update to DEBIAN 11 created panic. Before sudo su su - did work. Regards Sophie Von: Gareth Evans Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. Januar 2024 04:31 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-27 Thread Andy Smith
ss stream of mispastes and misunderstandings about "sudo" and "su". But I guess what one finds amusing can have a very wide variability… Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Andy Smith wrote: > It is hard to understand how what Michael/Sophie/Tobias does can in > any way be "fun" for them, though maybe that is just our lack of > understanding. I expressed my suspicion of a "Hurz" performance in https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/05/msg00100.html Have a

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Hans, On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 10:23:09AM +0100, Hans wrote: > I see this exactly as you and are watching this list for may years. I'm not sure who you're replying to as you've removed those details, though I may guess from your In-Reply-To header which doesn't point to a list message. You have

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-27 Thread Hans
, that he/she can not do a su or install a package. NOT after 2 years!!! For me, I will get no help here for this person, just ignore it. This is my very personal decision! Sorry to say it, but for me personally it looks like fake! Like a morone, like a troll. And those I can not support, sorry

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-26 Thread Hans
Am Freitag, 26. Januar 2024, 17:23:07 CET schrieben Sie: Yes, if you want to install soemthing for example by using the apt command, best way is becoming root with the command "su -" and then install the rquired package. Example: su - then enter the password of the user root If

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 04:23:07PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > su - > su > or sudo. > > Is su - > the best for install? Whatever works best for *you* is best. "su -" is quite popular. If it does what you need, and is convenient for you, then there's your answer.

AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-26 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Sorry it was my mistake It is su - su or sudo. Sorry. Is su - the best for install? Regards Sophie Von: Hans Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. Januar 2024 18:29 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: AW: su su- sudo dont work Am Dienstag, 23. Januar 2024

Re: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-25 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 03:53:10PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > Good afternoon > Why do I have to open a group? > This is to *tell* us information about why you're having problems with su and sudo Running the id command should give you information like uid=1000(amac

AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-25 Thread Schwibinger Michael
: su su- sudo dont work On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 4:07 PM Schwibinger Michael mailto:h...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Thank You Example I say sudo apt-get install firefox Reaction LINUX This is not allowed we send a message to the admin. This error message means that your account is not in the sudo

AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-24 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good afternoon Thank You. I ll print it out and read it. 2 questions: Is this the same problem with su su - su -p? Is it not a problem of rescue mode, before panic it did work. Problem: root terminal is not accepting copy paste. Regards Sophie Von: Greg

Re: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-23 Thread Gareth Evans
> On 23 Jan 2024, at 18:30, Hans wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 23. Januar 2024, 13:54:25 CET schrieb Schwibinger Michael: > For gvetting root as normal user, best is use "su -". > > Note: It is not "su-", but "su -", with a space between su and t

Re: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-23 Thread Hans
Am Dienstag, 23. Januar 2024, 13:54:25 CET schrieb Schwibinger Michael: For gvetting root as normal user, best is use "su -". Note: It is not "su-", but "su -", with a space between su and the minus sign. Good luck! Hans > Thank You. > > 2 questions

AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-23 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Thank You. 2 questions 1 Is the best to use su- for ding install? 2 All 4 dont work. What do I do wrong? Regards Sophie Von: Hans Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Januar 2024 14:23 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: su su- sudo dont work Am Samstag, 20

AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-23 Thread Schwibinger Michael
2024 14:34 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: su su- sudo dont work On Sat 20 Jan 2024 at 09:14:30 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 01:26:06PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > > Good afternoon. > > Root terminal is fine. > > What do I do

Re: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-21 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
-- > *Von:* Greg Wooledge > *Gesendet:* Samstag, 20. Januar 2024 14:14 > *An:* debian-user@lists.debian.org > *Betreff:* Re: su su- sudo dont work > > On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 01:26:06PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > > Good afternoon. > > Root terminal is fine.

Re: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 12:57:17PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > sudo apt-get install firefox > Reaction LINUX > This is not allowed we send a message to the admin. > > I do open root terminal > there its working. It sounds like you are not authorized to use "sudo" on this computer. This i

AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-21 Thread Schwibinger Michael
@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: su su- sudo dont work On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 01:26:06PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > Good afternoon. > Root terminal is fine. > What do I do wrong? > What did I destroy? > > PC does have only one user=admin. > > Regards Sophie > Is i

Re: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-21 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Sat, 2024-01-20 at 13:26 +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > > Good afternoon. > Root terminal is fine. > What do I do wrong? > What did I destroy? > > > PC does have only one user=admin. > > > Regards Sophie > Is it the rescue mode? Hellow Sophie, English is not my native language. Somet

Problem booting the Debian machine [WAS Re: AW: su su- sudo dont work]

2024-01-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 02:30:43PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > Good afternoon > I destroyed DEBIAN > now 2 years agon. > I asked here for help > no solution. > So every morning > I interrupt booting > change to rescue mode. > > "Normal" booting does create panic. > > Regards > Sophie > >

Re: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 01:26:06PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > Good afternoon. > Root terminal is fine. > What do I do wrong? > What did I destroy? h-boy, strap yourselves in for another epic Sophie/Michael thread. A bit like the Gene ones, though tend to be circular across a much

AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-20 Thread Schwibinger Michael
_ Von: Dan Ritter Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Januar 2024 14:09 An: Schwibinger Michael Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: su su- sudo dont work Schwibinger Michael wrote: > Good afternoon. > Root terminal is fine. > What do I do wrong? > What did I destroy? > > PC d

Re: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-20 Thread David Wright
one user=admin. > > > > Regards Sophie > > Is it the rescue mode? > > Explain, please. > > Your Subject: header says "su su- sudo dont work". What does this MEAN? > > Please show us your attempts to USE each of these commands, and the > result

Re: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-20 Thread Dan Ritter
Schwibinger Michael wrote: > Good afternoon. > Root terminal is fine. > What do I do wrong? > What did I destroy? > > PC does have only one user=admin. > > Regards Sophie > Is it the rescue mode? Please tell us: exactly what rescue mode you were using exactly what the prompt was exactly w

Re: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-20 Thread Hans
Am Samstag, 20. Januar 2024, 14:26:06 CET schrieb Schwibinger Michael: There is not "su su-", but there is su = change to root, envirenmont of former user without changing of X environment (hope, this is corect said) su -= change to root, environment of user root su -p =

Re: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 01:26:06PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > Good afternoon. > Root terminal is fine. > What do I do wrong? > What did I destroy? > > PC does have only one user=admin. > > Regards Sophie > Is it the rescue mode? Explain, please. Your Subjec

su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-20 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good afternoon. Root terminal is fine. What do I do wrong? What did I destroy? PC does have only one user=admin. Regards Sophie Is it the rescue mode?

Re: su

2023-09-14 Thread Max Nikulin
. E.g. bash does not rely on xterm*VT100.reverseWrap: true BTW, I don't think that the preservation of $TERM is sufficient. Preserving $TERMINFO (when set) is important too. I do not use TERMINFO, however if you need to preserve it than you may use su --whitelist-environment=TERM

Re: su

2023-09-14 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-09-14 21:25:56 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 14/09/2023 17:30, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > Yes, XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is problematic, but as "su -" doesn't work in > > GNU Screen (it yields major display issues), I presume that some > > environment variables

Re: su

2023-09-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 14/09/2023 17:30, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Yes, XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is problematic, but as "su -" doesn't work in GNU Screen (it yields major display issues), I presume that some environment variables (terminal related?) are still useful. I just have tried it. "su -" pr

Re: su

2023-09-14 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-09-06 14:36:48 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 06/09/2023 10:41, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > Just put "ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes" into /etc/default/su and the problem > > is FIXED. "su" will work properly again! > > Greg, you provided a valid

Re: su

2023-09-06 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2023-09-05, Greg Wooledge wrote: > How *incredibly* Red Hat. Really, it just sickens me that this is the > answer accepted by so many people. It's not Red Hat, it's man page and own practice, even before Red Hat exists :) > To perform that installation, you run "su&

Re: su

2023-09-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/09/2023 10:41, Greg Wooledge wrote: Just put "ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes" into /etc/default/su and the problem is FIXED. "su" will work properly again! Greg, you provided a valid example when "su -" is undesirable, however in general "su -" is safer

Re: su

2023-09-05 Thread Charlie
On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 23:41:45 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > To perform that installation, you run "su", which gives you a root > shell, and then you do something like "make install". > > But the Red Hat answer says you should use "su -" instead, to become

Re: su

2023-09-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Sep 06, 2023 at 05:09:29AM +0200, Michel Verdier wrote: > On 2023-09-05, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > You used "su" to become root, I believe. Unfortunately, beginning > > with Debian 9, "su" with no arguments and no configuration doesn't > >

AW: Topic su- sudo su su -

2022-07-26 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Thank You. Von: David Wright Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Juli 2022 01:42 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: Topic su- sudo su On Sun 24 Jul 2022 at 12:12:47 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 10:06:07AM +, Schwibinger Mich

Re: Topic su- sudo su

2022-07-25 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 08:42:35PM -0500, David Wright wrote: [...] > … as you might remember writing in: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2022/05/msg00693.html I wish I had a memory half as good as yours :) cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Topic su- sudo su

2022-07-25 Thread David Wright
#x27;t quite understand what you are trying to say, The post seems to be a long-delayed response to: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2022/06/msg00423.html > but in any > case... > > > open terminal > > su- > ^^^ ...there is a space missing here. > > If you want

AW: Topic su - sudo su

2022-07-24 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Sorry su . not su- Thank You Regards Sophie Von: to...@tuxteam.de Gesendet: Sonntag, 24. Juli 2022 10:12 Bis: Schwibinger Michael Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: Topic su- sudo su On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 10:06:07AM +, Schwibinger

Topic su- sudo su

2022-07-24 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Hello Thank You for help. Sorry for forgotten topic. So install is open terminal su- Password and so on. Regards Sophie Von: to...@tuxteam.de Gesendet: Sonntag, 01. Mai 2022 11:24 Bis: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: Firmaware II On Sun, May 01

Re: Topic su- sudo su

2022-07-24 Thread to...@tuxteam.de
On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 10:06:07AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > > Hello > Thank You for help. > Sorry for forgotten topic. > > So > install is I don't quite understand what you are trying to say, but in any case... > open terminal > su- ^^^ ...there

Sudo or su ? [WAS Re: Firmware III grub]

2022-06-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
nabled root user then su - will give you root privileges and you will need to supply the root user password. Some people advise on one or the other: sudo can be limited so that specific commands can be limited to one user, for example. apt / apt-get and other package installation programs need

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-23 Thread Lee
On 5/22/22, Charles Kroeger wrote: >> There is no silver bullet that makes your system secure. > > I get a login shell with $su --login > > I don't have sudo installed > > is there something heretical about that, I should know? If this is for your personal machine,

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-22 Thread tomas
On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 03:32:22PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2022-05-22 at 14:53, Charles Kroeger wrote: > > >> There is no silver bullet that makes your system secure. > > > > I get a login shell with $su --login > > > > I don't have sudo ins

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 09:37:43PM +0200, basti wrote: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=918754#41 > > or use su -l For the record, that URL says: This is a new behavior because the util-linux implementation of su is used now. See also /usr/share/doc/u

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-22 Thread basti
Am 20.05.22 um 02:24 schrieb Kenneth Parker: On Thu, May 19, 2022, 4:14 AM 황병희 <mailto:soyeo...@doraji.xyz>> wrote: Tom Browder mailto:tom.brow...@gmail.com>> writes: > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-22 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-05-22 at 14:53, Charles Kroeger wrote: >> There is no silver bullet that makes your system secure. > > I get a login shell with $su --login > > I don't have sudo installed > > is there something heretical about that, I should know? Not heretical, but -

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-22 Thread Charles Kroeger
> There is no silver bullet that makes your system secure. I get a login shell with $su --login I don't have sudo installed is there something heretical about that, I should know?

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-22 Thread Tom Browder
On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 11:04 Greg Wooledge wrote: ... > So... we literally can't tell what you did. I think that character munging is because of the unwanted, unedititible html mail from my ipad gmail client. Still wondering why you can't just use the other solutions you've been > given. If

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-22 Thread Tom Browder
On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 10:40 Greg Wooledge wrote: ... > So, I've already given you the solution that *I* would use, which is: > > ln -s /opt/raku/bin/raku /usr/local/bin/raku That works fine, but another part of the work flow for nstallation is the need to access another Raku program which mus

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 10:48:44AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > Yes, I actually used that syntax but failed to put it in the message—same > result: > > sudo —preserve-env=PATH raku -v > sudo: raku: command not found You might have misspelled --preserve. It's hard to tell, because what y

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-22 Thread Tom Browder
On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 09:02 wrote: … Socratic -- I fear you over-estimate me badly :-) You are too modest! Note that the key --preserve-env takes an arg. That would be > > --preserve-env=PATH > > to pass on the PATH environment variable. The arg is a comma separated > list of environment v

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-22 Thread tomas
[reinserted the copy to list: others tend to have better ideas than me] On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 06:15:57AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 11:28 wrote: > ... > > > I'm sure the OP is now able to locate that "security policy" config > > and change it to taste. "--preserve-env=

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-21 Thread tomas
On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 06:04:07PM +0200, Linux-Fan wrote: > Greg Wooledge writes: > > > On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 10:04:01AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > > > I am getting nowhere fast. > > > > OK, let's start at the beginning. > > > > You have raku installed in some directory that is not in a regu

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-21 Thread Linux-Fan
are the same PATH. I tend to interactively become root and hence ensure that the scripts are run all of the time. This has mostly survived the mentioned change in `su` behaviour and observable variations between `sudo -s` and `su` behaviours are kept at a minimum. HTH and YMMV Linux-Fan öö p

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
elling you that symlinks will corrupt your precious bodily fluids. Who knows. So, you would like to perform a privilege elevation command and keep your regular account's PATH variable. Well, guess what? As it turns out, the incredibly stupid behavior of buster's "su" command d

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 09:02 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 03:19:09PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Less typing, more general. Nobody's trying to dissuade you of doing > > "sudo bash" or "sudo su" or... > I am getting nowhere fas

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 03:19:09PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Less typing, more general. Nobody's trying to dissuade you of doing > "sudo bash" or "sudo su" or... I'm definitely trying to dissuade people from doing the latter. It's one of those h

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-21 Thread tomas
On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 11:12:01AM +, Lee wrote: > On 5/19/22, Tom Browder wrote: > > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 03:54 Kamil Jońca wrote: > > > >> It is quite misterious for me. > >> What is the purpose of "sudo su" instead of plain "sudo" o

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-21 Thread Brian
oot > > > Password. Ubuntu doesn't, so one of my early actions after the Install > > > is > > > to enter "sudo su -" and, on the resulting Root Shell, type "passwd root". > > > > Depends on whta you mean by "Ubuntu". It

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-21 Thread Tixy
r the Install is > > to enter "sudo su -" and, on the resulting Root Shell, type "passwd root". > > Depends on whta you mean by "Ubuntu". Its mini.iso offers settong a root > password. I wonder whether the regular ISO can be preseeded? > Don't th

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-21 Thread Lee
On 5/19/22, Tom Browder wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 03:54 Kamil Jońca wrote: > >> It is quite misterious for me. >> What is the purpose of "sudo su" instead of plain "sudo" or "sudo -i" < .. snip ..> > > I have for years now not u

Re: Avoiding command hijacking in shells (was Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11))

2022-05-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 09:36:40PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > I wasn't even thinking of it in those terms, although now that you point > it out that's a good thing to be aware of. I was thinking of it in terms > of A: trying to write scripts that are safe against such problematic > elements being

Re: Avoiding command hijacking in shells (was Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11))

2022-05-20 Thread The Wanderer
>> > $ >> >> A quick test demonstrates that this can be worked around via the 'unset' >> command: > > Until you define a function named unset. Well, yes - that was the point of the paragraphs after the demonstration. > But the real point here is t

Re: Avoiding command hijacking in shells (was Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11))

2022-05-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
via the 'unset' > command: Until you define a function named unset. But the real point here is that you should only use sudo or su (or doas or any other program that reads your password) from a trusted environment. What you definitely should NOT do is get called by a coworker, go over t

Avoiding command hijacking in shells (was Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11))

2022-05-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-05-20 at 20:28, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 19 May 2022 at 15:42:33 (-0500), Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > >> On Thu, May 19, 2022, 3:14 AM 황병희 wrote: >> > Tom Browder writes: >> > >> > > I need a special path setting for root after both "s

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-20 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Fri, May 20, 2022, 7:28 PM David Wright wrote: > On Thu 19 May 2022 at 15:42:33 (-0500), Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > On Thu, May 19, 2022, 3:14 AM 황병희 wrote: > > > Tom Browder writes: > > > > > > > I need a special path setting for root

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-20 Thread David Wright
On Thu 19 May 2022 at 15:42:33 (-0500), Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2022, 3:14 AM 황병희 wrote: > > Tom Browder writes: > > > > > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo > > > su." (...) > > > &

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-20 Thread Brian
On Thu 19 May 2022 at 20:24:50 -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: [...] > Note, Debian (at least in the Expert Installation Mode) lets me set a Root > Password. Ubuntu doesn't, so one of my early actions after the Install is > to enter "sudo su -" and, on the resulting Root

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-19 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 8:25 PM Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > On Thu, May 19, 2022, 4:14 AM 황병희 wrote: > >> Tom Browder writes: >> >> > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo >> > su." (...) >> >&g

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-19 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, May 19, 2022, 4:14 AM 황병희 wrote: > Tom Browder writes: > > > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo > > su." (...) > > Just you try like as "sudo su -". Sometimes i use it that way. > > Sincerely, Li

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-19 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Thu, May 19, 2022, 3:14 AM 황병희 wrote: > Tom Browder writes: > > > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo > > su." (...) > > Just you try like as "sudo su -". Sometimes i use it that way. > When I need to

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-19 Thread Tom Browder
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 06:31 Greg Wooledge wrote: ... > > > > I feel like you're doing "sudo su" out of some bad habit that you've > > > developed. You'd be doing yourself a favor if you retrain yourself > > > to use "sudo -s"

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 06:22:07AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 06:03 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 05:47:29AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > > > $ sudo su > > > # ./myprog install > > > > Again, th

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-19 Thread Tom Browder
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 06:03 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 05:47:29AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > > $ sudo su > > # ./myprog install > > Again, there's no reason to use both "sudo" AND "su". Just "sudo -s" >

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 05:47:29AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > $ sudo su > # ./myprog install Again, there's no reason to use both "sudo" AND "su". Just "sudo -s" would give you the interactive root shell, without changing directory. I feel li

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-19 Thread Tom Browder
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 03:54 Kamil Jońca wrote: > Tom Browder writes: > > > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo su." > How can I set that up correctly? > > It is quite misterious for me. > What is the purpose of "s

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-19 Thread Kamil Jońca
Tom Browder writes: > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo su." How > can I set that up correctly? It is quite misterious for me. What is the purpose of "sudo su" instead of plain "sudo" or "sudo -i" KJ -- http://stopstopnop.pl/stop_stopnop.pl_o_nas.html

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-19 Thread 황병희
Tom Browder writes: > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo > su." (...) Just you try like as "sudo su -". Sometimes i use it that way. Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee -- ^고맙습니다 _白衣從軍_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-19 Thread mick crane
On 2022-05-19 04:08, Greg Wooledge wrote: A much better workaround is to create the /etc/default/su file and put the line ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes well that's handy. "su -" puts you in /root whereas with that you stay in $PWD. cheers mick

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 09:36:56PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo su." How > can I set that up correctly? Let's start by pointing out how silly the latter is. You're running TWO different set

setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

2022-05-18 Thread Tom Browder
I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo su." How can I set that up correctly? Searching for a definitive answer seems hopeless. Any working solution is greatly appreciated. In desperation I've thought about modifying /etc/login.defs for bot

Re: Authentication failed after su-

2022-03-01 Thread Stella Ashburne
Dearie > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2022 at 12:16 AM > From: "David Wright" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Authentication failed after su- > Please allow me to snip off large chunks of your tips in my reply. > Substantively, they'

Re: Authentication failed after su-

2022-03-01 Thread David Wright
> Could you surf to https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse, look under the > sub-heading "WPA-PSK and WPA2-PSK", paragraph 2 with the statement "Use the > WPA passphrase to calculate the correct WPA PSK hash for your SSID by > altering the following example:"

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