Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-21 Thread Bill Wohler
mustard lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One thing thats always confused me with aptitude is how to 'unmark' packages that I have accidently marked when uses the ncurses interface. You can use '-' (or '_') as Raquel suggested. Since this method requires that you look for the dependencies that

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-20 Thread mustard lee
Justin Guerin wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 23:51, mustard lee wrote: Christopher Nelson wrote: On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 02:59:26PM +0200, H. Wilmer wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: [snip] One thing thats always confused me with aptitude is how to 'unmark' packages

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-19 Thread Michael M.
Grant Thomas wrote: For example, a few days ago I decided to take a look at KDE (I am a long time IceWM user). I just did 'aptitude install kde' and had almost several hundred MB worth of k* applications. Exactly what I wanted and, so far, exactly what apt-get would have done. But it

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-18 Thread Magnus Therning
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 02:59:26PM +0200, H. Wilmer wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: You cannot break anything by using aptitude and apt-get together, but you will (partially) neutralize many of the advantages of aptitude. Just think of aptitude as a tool which integrates the functionality of

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-18 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 18 May 2006, Magnus Therning wrote: On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 02:59:26PM +0200, H. Wilmer wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: You cannot break anything by using aptitude and apt-get together, but you will (partially) neutralize many of the advantages of aptitude. Just think of aptitude as a

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-18 Thread Chris Lale
Clive Menzies wrote: [ ... ] The problem with mixing aptitude with apt is that aptitude will sometimes threaten to remove packages it thinks are dependencies becuase it wasn't used to install [ ... ] This is because aptitude labels packages as either automatically installed or manually

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-18 Thread Magnus Therning
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 10:04:40AM +0100, Chris Lale wrote: Clive Menzies wrote: [ ... ] The problem with mixing aptitude with apt is that aptitude will sometimes threaten to remove packages it thinks are dependencies becuase it wasn't used to install [ ... ] This is because aptitude labels

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-18 Thread Raquel Rice
On Thu, 18 May 2006 15:51:10 +1000 mustard lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing thats always confused me with aptitude is how to 'unmark' packages that I have accidently marked when uses the ncurses interface. I have no trouble marking things and installing them, although, I

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-18 Thread Justin Guerin
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 23:51, mustard lee wrote: Christopher Nelson wrote: On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 02:59:26PM +0200, H. Wilmer wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: [snip] One thing thats always confused me with aptitude is how to 'unmark' packages that I have accidently marked when uses the

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-18 Thread Chris Lale
Magnus Therning wrote: [ ... ] # aptitude unmarkauto --schedule-only '~i' Install aptitude-doc and take a look at file:///usr/share/doc/aptitude/html/en/ch02s03.html [ ... ] Thanks, Magnus. Worked a treat. Chris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-18 Thread Chris Lale
Magnus Therning wrote: [ ... ] # aptitude unmarkauto --schedule-only '~i' Install aptitude-doc and take a look at file:///usr/share/doc/aptitude/html/en/ch02s03.html [ ... ] Thanks, Magnus. Worked a treat. Chris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-17 Thread Joris Huizer
Grant Thomas wrote: Question for you (anyone) then: If you install kde through aptitude, an aptitude marks Xorg as a dependency, and then install gnome a couple of days later, would removing kde also remove Xorg, or would it see it as a current dependency for gnome and leave it? It would

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-17 Thread H. Wilmer
Florian Kulzer wrote: You cannot break anything by using aptitude and apt-get together, but you will (partially) neutralize many of the advantages of aptitude. Just think of aptitude as a tool which integrates the functionality of apt-get, apt-cache, etc. into one utility with an optional

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-17 Thread Raquel Rice
On Wed, 17 May 2006 14:59:26 +0200 H. Wilmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: You cannot break anything by using aptitude and apt-get together, but you will (partially) neutralize many of the advantages of aptitude. Just think of aptitude as a tool which integrates the

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-17 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 02:59:26PM +0200, H. Wilmer wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: You cannot break anything by using aptitude and apt-get together, but you will (partially) neutralize many of the advantages of aptitude. Just think of aptitude as a tool which integrates the functionality of

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-17 Thread mustard lee
Christopher Nelson wrote: On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 02:59:26PM +0200, H. Wilmer wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: You cannot break anything by using aptitude and apt-get together, but you will (partially) neutralize many of the advantages of aptitude. Just think of aptitude as a tool which

switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-16 Thread Rick Reynolds
I've googled this quite a bit and found various web pages praising aptitude as a better apt-get. But I've also seen cautions about mixing the two. I'm running a testing installation that has been in place for nearly two years -- all the while maintained via apt-get. I've even written a

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-16 Thread Clive Menzies
On (16/05/06 11:53), Rick Reynolds wrote: I've googled this quite a bit and found various web pages praising aptitude as a better apt-get. But I've also seen cautions about mixing the two. I'm running a testing installation that has been in place for nearly two years -- all the while

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-16 Thread Jochen Schulz
Rick Reynolds: I've googled this quite a bit and found various web pages praising aptitude as a better apt-get. But I've also seen cautions about mixing the two. Mixing the two is generally a bad idea since aptitude tracks which packages you really wanted to install and which ones just

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 20:02 +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: Rick Reynolds: [snip] For example, a few days ago I decided to take a look at KDE (I am a long time IceWM user). I just did 'aptitude install kde' and had almost several hundred MB worth of k* applications. Exactly what I wanted and, so

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-16 Thread Jochen Schulz
Ron Johnson: On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 20:02 +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: For example, a few days ago I decided to take a look at KDE (I am a long time IceWM user). I just did 'aptitude install kde' and had almost several hundred MB worth of k* applications. Exactly what I wanted and, so

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-16 Thread Stephen
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 11:53:46AM -0400 or thereabouts, Rick Reynolds wrote: I've googled this quite a bit and found various web pages praising aptitude as a better apt-get. But I've also seen cautions about mixing the two. You might try searching the archives for articles confirming what

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-16 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 15:45:05 -0400, Stephen wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 11:53:46AM -0400 or thereabouts, Rick Reynolds wrote: I've googled this quite a bit and found various web pages praising aptitude as a better apt-get. But I've also seen cautions about mixing the two. You

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-16 Thread Grant Thomas
For example, a few days ago I decided to take a look at KDE (I am a long time IceWM user). I just did 'aptitude install kde' and had almost several hundred MB worth of k* applications. Exactly what I wanted and, so far, exactly what apt-get would have done. But it was just an

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 10:31:40PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 15:45:05 -0400, Stephen wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 11:53:46AM -0400 or thereabouts, Rick Reynolds wrote: I've googled this quite a bit and found various web pages praising aptitude as a better

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-16 Thread Roel Schroeven
Grant Thomas schreef: For example, a few days ago I decided to take a look at KDE (I am a long time IceWM user). I just did 'aptitude install kde' and had almost several hundred MB worth of k* applications. Exactly what I wanted and, so far, exactly what apt-get would have done. But it was just

Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude

2006-05-16 Thread Cameron Hutchison
Grant Thomas wrote: Question for you (anyone) then: If you install kde through aptitude, an aptitude marks Xorg as a dependency, and then install gnome a couple of days later, would removing kde also remove Xorg, or would it see it as a current dependency for gnome and leave it? Aptitude does