Re: Swap and ext3 (was: tune2fs ext2 - ext3 do I do it to swap ???)

2003-01-28 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Tuesday 28 January 2003 02:51, Steve Lamb wrote: Well, technically you can after a fashion. You can make a swap file on the current file system which could be ext3. In fact I've done just that with swapd. Question is what effects do a journalling file system have on swap files?

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3 do I do it to swap ???

2003-01-28 Thread Dave Selby
Thanks for the advice guys I will leave swap partition as nature intended !! Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Swap and ext3 (was: tune2fs ext2 - ext3 do I do it to swap???)

2003-01-28 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:34:47 +0100 Nicos Gollan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to what a prof. said, swapspace should be placed outside any filesystems since that filesystem would add to the already gigantic overhead the disk produces by adding a layer of indirection (look up the file,

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3 do I do it to swap ???

2003-01-27 Thread Dave Selby
Ive converted my debian from ext2 to ext3 .. no problems. Do I need to do the same to my swap partition, is there any advantage ?? Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3 do I do it to swap ???

2003-01-27 Thread tallison
Ive converted my debian from ext2 to ext3 .. no problems. Do I need to do the same to my swap partition, is there any advantage ?? Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm thinking not. ext3 is a

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3 do I do it to swap ???

2003-01-27 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Monday 27 January 2003 18:57, Dave Selby wrote: Ive converted my debian from ext2 to ext3 .. no problems. Do I need to do the same to my swap partition, is there any advantage ?? NO! Don't touch the swap partition. It has no file system and creating one would corrupt it. A file system on

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3 do I do it to swap ???

2003-01-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 13:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ive converted my debian from ext2 to ext3 .. no problems. Do I need to do the same to my swap partition, is there any advantage ?? Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Swap and ext3 (was: tune2fs ext2 - ext3 do I do it to swap ???)

2003-01-27 Thread Steve Lamb
On 27 Jan 2003 15:29:18 -0600 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heck, not only would it not do anything useful for you, you just can't do it!! Well, technically you can after a fashion. You can make a swap file on the current file system which could be ext3. In fact I've done just

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-26 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 23:41:01 -0800 Vineet Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... just FYI =) Quite aware of that. However shutdown -F's behavior can change in the future or do something completely different on another OS without me having to know what it does. To me it is better to use the

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 01:52:06PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 14:59:58 + Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frankly I wouldn't bother with that second step. I've never needed it for any of the filesystems I've converted to ext3. Then how do you move .journal

tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread Dave Selby
Im planning to turn my ext2 to an ext3 after a system crash due to a winmodem driver running with dependency problems .. OK I get the bit about tune2fs -j /dev/hda2 I dont get the bit about touch /forcefsck touch changes the file timestamps ? I cant find a reference to forcefsck

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Saturday 25 January 2003 10:08, Dave Selby wrote: Im planning to turn my ext2 to an ext3 after a system crash due to a winmodem driver running with dependency problems .. OK I get the bit about tune2fs -j /dev/hda2 I dont get the bit about touch /forcefsck This creates a

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 09:08:50 + Dave Selby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: touch /forcefsck touch changes the file timestamps ? I cant find a reference to forcefsck in its man or info pages. Is it a switch of some kind ? I can understand doing a fsck, but this command sequence has thrown

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 09:08:50AM +, Dave Selby wrote: Im planning to turn my ext2 to an ext3 after a system crash due to a winmodem driver running with dependency problems .. OK I get the bit about tune2fs -j /dev/hda2 I dont get the bit about touch /forcefsck

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread W. Paul Mills
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave Selby wrote: Im planning to turn my ext2 to an ext3 after a system crash due to a winmodem driver running with dependency problems .. OK I get the bit about tune2fs -j /dev/hda2 I dont get the bit about touch /forcefsck

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread Shaun ONeil
On 2003.01.25 04:08 Dave Selby wrote: Im planning to turn my ext2 to an ext3 after a system crash due to a winmodem driver running with dependency problems .. OK I get the bit about tune2fs -j /dev/hda2 I dont get the bit about touch /forcefsck touch changes the file timestamps ? I

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 09:08:50AM +, Dave Selby wrote: touch changes the file timestamps ? I cant find a reference to forcefsck in its man or info pages. Is it a switch of some kind ? No, that file is created when you do shutdown -rF now. Using this command will have the same effect. --

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread Manuel Ifland
In article 20030125111005$[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Selby ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Im planning to turn my ext2 to an ext3 after a system crash due to a winmodem driver running with dependency problems .. OK I get the bit about tune2fs -j /dev/hda2 I dont get the bit about

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 09:08:50AM +, Dave Selby wrote: [...] | I dont get the bit about | | touch /forcefsck | | touch changes the file timestamps ? Yes, that's right. (and it creates the file if it doesn't exist) | I cant find a reference to forcefsck in its man or info pages. Is

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread Kent West
Dave Selby wrote: Im planning to turn my ext2 to an ext3 after a system crash due to a winmodem driver running with dependency problems .. OK I get the bit about tune2fs -j /dev/hda2 I dont get the bit about touch /forcefsck touch changes the file timestamps ? I cant find a

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 03:08, Dave Selby wrote: Im planning to turn my ext2 to an ext3 after a system crash due to a winmodem driver running with dependency problems .. OK I get the bit about tune2fs -j /dev/hda2 I dont get the bit about touch /forcefsck touch changes

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread Hans Wilmer
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 09:08:50AM +, Dave Selby wrote: touch /forcefsck Can anyone shed light ?? See man shutdown: The -F flag means Force fsck'. This only creates an advisory file /forcefsck which can be tested by the system when it comes up again. The

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread Hans Wilmer
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 05:47:33PM +0100, Manuel Ifland wrote: 4) Deactivate all further checks as they are no longer needed: tune2fs -c 0 -i 0 /dev/hda2 There are circumstances where a check is performed on ext3fs partitions after a crash. Imho it would be very unwise to turn off those

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 14:59:58 + Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frankly I wouldn't bother with that second step. I've never needed it for any of the filesystems I've converted to ext3. Then how do you move .journal into its hidden location? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread Hans Wilmer
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 02:59:58PM +, Colin Watson wrote: Frankly I wouldn't bother with that second step. I've never needed it for any of the filesystems I've converted to ext3. Though it's not required to fsck an FS after creating a journal with tune2fs -j, it is a good idea to do it on

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 02:59:58PM +, Colin Watson wrote: Frankly I wouldn't bother with that second step. I've never needed it for any of the filesystems I've converted to ext3. It hides the journal so you don't have a .journal file laying around in the partition root. -- .''`.

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 05:47:33PM +0100, Manuel Ifland wrote: where did you read to do a touch /forcefsck? In my opinion this command only creates a file called forcefsck in the root directory if not already there. Not more or less. I can only guess that by issuing this command, you turn off

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:56:23 -0800 Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can never be too safe with your data. Well some believe that disconnecting the ether, encasing the computer in a waterproof safe, burying the safe in a block of concrete 80x80 and dumping that into the ocean to

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Steve Lamb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030125 09:53]: On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 09:08:50 + Dave Selby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: touch /forcefsck touch changes the file timestamps ? I cant find a reference to forcefsck in its man or info pages. Is it a switch of some kind ? I can

Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3

2003-01-25 Thread Dave Selby
On Saturday 25 January 2003 9:08 am, Dave Selby wrote: Im planning to turn my ext2 to an ext3 after a system crash due to a winmodem driver running with dependency problems .. OK I get the bit about tune2fs -j /dev/hda2 I dont get the bit about touch /forcefsck touch changes