Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 16:48 -0400, H.S. wrote: So, what free and preferably open source choices do we have for virtual machines in Debian? Pros and cons based on your experiences will be appreciated. virtualbox-ose is a good choice. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-18 Thread Rich Healey
H.S. wrote: Hello, Many months ago I had first installed a virtual machine, VMWare. I used it for a few months and then never touched. IIRC, it was free for students back then. This week I looked it up again (I still have the virtual machines installed) and wanted to reinstall the new

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-18 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2008-07-17 22:48, H.S. wrote: So, what free and preferably open source choices do we have for virtual machines in Debian? Pros and cons based on your experiences will be appreciated. I've been running VMware some time ago, but it required

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-18 Thread Shachar Or
For Free Software purists, note that while there's a GPL version of VirtualBox itself, the Guest Additions for Windows are *not* Free Software. Ahm... I think that Windows itself is a problem for Free Software Purists :). Hehe. -- Shachar Or | שחר אור http://ox.freeallweb.org/ -- To

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-18 Thread David Baron
On Friday 18 July 2008 00:21:23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm rather content with virtualbox-ose, but you have to be careful to run a kernel with all the pieces needed (linux-image + virtualbox-ose-modules to match). I'm currently running a -486 kernel Can't the modules be built with

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-18 Thread Carsten Aulbert
David Baron wrote: Xen will run linux--no windows. I believe Xen runs Windows easily if your CPU supports the virtualization scheme. Only then can something unchanged run within Xen. HTH Carsten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-18 Thread Steve Lamb
David Baron wrote: Qemu will run most anything and without the need of guest-modules which may or may not be available for the target guest or may or may not install their successfully. Qemu presents standard hardware. Qemu is also dog slow since it is virtualizing everything instead of

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-18 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:02:30AM +0300, Shachar Or wrote: For Free Software purists, note that while there's a GPL version of VirtualBox itself, the Guest Additions for Windows are *not* Free Software. Ahm... I think that Windows itself is a problem for Free Software Purists :). Hehe.

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-18 Thread Emil Pedersen
--On torsdag, juli 17, 2008 16.08.49 -0500 Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: H.S. wrote: So, what free and preferably open source choices do we have for virtual machines in Debian? Pros and cons based on your experiences will be appreciated. I was

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-18 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le Friday 18 July 2008 07:44:04 Volkan YAZICI, vous avez écrit : On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Many months ago I had first installed a virtual machine, VMWare. I used it for a few months and then never touched. IIRC, it was free for students back then. This week I

virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-17 Thread H.S.
Hello, Many months ago I had first installed a virtual machine, VMWare. I used it for a few months and then never touched. IIRC, it was free for students back then. This week I looked it up again (I still have the virtual machines installed) and wanted to reinstall the new version of

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 04:48:14PM -0400, H.S. wrote: Hello, Many months ago I had first installed a virtual machine, VMWare. I used it for a few months and then never touched. IIRC, it was free for students back then. This week I looked it up again (I still have the virtual machines

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-17 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 H.S. wrote: Hello, Many months ago I had first installed a virtual machine, VMWare. I used it for a few months and then never touched. IIRC, it was free for students back then. This week I looked it up again (I still have the virtual

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-17 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Thursday 17 July 2008 04:48:14 pm H.S. wrote: Hello, Many months ago I had first installed a virtual machine, VMWare. I used it for a few months and then never touched. IIRC, it was free for students back then. This week I looked it up again (I still have the virtual machines installed)

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-17 Thread Kent West
Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: H.S. wrote: So, what free and preferably open source choices do we have for virtual machines in Debian? Pros and cons based on your experiences will be appreciated. I was succesfully used kvm and qemu. There is also 'virtualbox-ose' in Debian archive. I'm

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-17 Thread H.S.
Damon L. Chesser wrote: VMServer is still free of cost to use. VMWorkstation gives you some more er ... What is the difference between the two? (sorry, not much experience with VM stuff). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-17 Thread H.S.
Kent West wrote: I'm rather content with virtualbox-ose, but you have to be careful to run a kernel with all the pieces needed (linux-image + virtualbox-ose-modules to match). I'm currently running a -486 kernel Can't the modules be built with module-assistant? -HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-17 Thread David Barrett
H.S. wrote: Hello, Many months ago I had first installed a virtual machine, VMWare. I used it for a few months and then never touched. IIRC, it was free for students back then. This week I looked it up again (I still have the virtual machines installed) and wanted to reinstall the new

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-17 Thread thveillon.debian
Kent West wrote : Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: H.S. wrote: So, what free and preferably open source choices do we have for virtual machines in Debian? Pros and cons based on your experiences will be appreciated. I was succesfully used kvm and qemu. There is also 'virtualbox-ose' in Debian

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-17 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
H.S. wrote: Damon L. Chesser wrote: VMServer is still free of cost to use. VMWorkstation gives you some more er ... What is the difference between the two? (sorry, not much experience with VM stuff). One thing that is different (at least in VMware server 1.0.X) is that VMware server

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-17 Thread Shachar Or
On Friday 18 July 2008 00:23, David Barrett wrote: Otherwise, if you're just looking for something to run Windows under a Linux GUI environment, I recommend VirtualBox. +1 to that. Love VirtualBox There's the latest version in backports. The Guest Additions for Windows are fantastic. --

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-17 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 02:13:16AM +0300, Shachar Or wrote: On Friday 18 July 2008 00:23, David Barrett wrote: Otherwise, if you're just looking for something to run Windows under a Linux GUI environment, I recommend VirtualBox. +1 to that. Love VirtualBox There's the latest version in

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-17 Thread Volkan YAZICI
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Many months ago I had first installed a virtual machine, VMWare. I used it for a few months and then never touched. IIRC, it was free for students back then. This week I looked it up again (I still have the virtual machines installed) and