Re: [solved]: web alternative to knockd for a "secure" sshd server?

2007-04-25 Thread Nick Demou
On 4/23/07, Karl E. Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > Nice idea. Is it easy to support sshd-httpd on the same port also? > > Yes - assuming that the httpd client doesn't use pooling or the like, > which stops the client from "talking" immediately upon connection: > [...] > I did do

Re: [solved]: web alternative to knockd for a "secure" sshd server?

2007-04-23 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 08:59:37PM +0100, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 10:02:50PM +0300, Nick Demou wrote: > > On 4/21/07, Karl E. Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Despite being security-through-obscurity, it *is* possible to run https > > >and ssh on the same port, v

Re: [solved]: web alternative to knockd for a "secure" sshd server?

2007-04-22 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 10:02:50PM +0300, Nick Demou wrote: > On 4/21/07, Karl E. Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Despite being security-through-obscurity, it *is* possible to run https > >and ssh on the same port, via a proxy: > >http://sourceforge.net/projects/ssh-ssl-proxy/ > > Nice

Re: [solved]: web alternative to knockd for a "secure" sshd server?

2007-04-22 Thread Nick Demou
On 4/21/07, Karl E. Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Despite being security-through-obscurity, it *is* possible to run https and ssh on the same port, via a proxy: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ssh-ssl-proxy/ Nice idea. Is it easy to support sshd-httpd on the same port also? [...]

Re: [solved]: web alternative to knockd for a "secure" sshd server?

2007-04-21 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 07:43:23AM +0300, Nick Demou wrote: > On 4/21/07, Jeff D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Fri, 20 Apr 2007, Nick Demou wrote: > >[...] > >> > >> Any other idea of simple measures that will keep as many attackers > >> away from the one and only service that is listening to th

Re: web alternative to knockd for a "secure" sshd server?

2007-04-20 Thread charles norwood
On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 16:03 +0300, Nick Demou wrote: > On 4/20/07, Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 12:47:20PM +0300, Nick Demou wrote: > > > [...] > > > Any other idea of simple measures that will keep as many attackers > > > away from the one and only serv

[solved]: web alternative to knockd for a "secure" sshd server?

2007-04-20 Thread Nick Demou
On 4/21/07, Jeff D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 20 Apr 2007, Nick Demou wrote: [...] > > Any other idea of simple measures that will keep as many attackers > away from the one and only service that is listening to the Internet? > [...] I'm not sure if this fits what you are looking for or

Re: web alternative to knockd for a "secure" sshd server?

2007-04-20 Thread Jeff D
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007, Nick Demou wrote: The only service that listens to the internet on my pcs is sshd (on port 80 or 443 [1]). Since neither me nor sshd is perfect I would like to get rid of as much attackers as possible. My idea was to use port knocking. So I tested knockd and it seems nice[2]

Re: web alternative to knockd for a "secure" sshd server?

2007-04-20 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 12:47:20PM +0300, Nick Demou wrote: > The only service that listens to the internet on my pcs is sshd (on > port 80 or 443 [1]). Since neither me nor sshd is perfect I would like > to get rid of as much attackers as possible. My idea was to use port > knocking. So I tested k

Re: web alternative to knockd for a "secure" sshd server?

2007-04-20 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:13:39 -0400 Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 10:58:37AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > > Use shorewall. Set an SSH rule in your rules file, and use the > > RATE-LIMIT column (see /usr/share/doc/shorewall/default-config/rules). > > > This

Re: web alternative to knockd for a "secure" sshd server?

2007-04-20 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 10:58:37AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > Use shorewall. Set an SSH rule in your rules file, and use the > RATE-LIMIT column (see /usr/share/doc/shorewall/default-config/rules). > This is what I do. It is much nicer (at least I think so) than working with raw iptables. > > C

Re: web alternative to knockd for a "secure" sshd server?

2007-04-20 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:03:41 +0300 "Nick Demou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/20/07, Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 12:47:20PM +0300, Nick Demou wrote: > > > [...] > > > Any other idea of simple measures that will keep as many attackers > > > away fro

Re: web alternative to knockd for a "secure" sshd server?

2007-04-20 Thread Nick Demou
On 4/20/07, Johannes Wiedersich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nick Demou wrote: > Any other idea of simple measures that will keep as many attackers > away from the one and only service that is listening to the Internet? Different approach, but the same goal: [...] fail2ban bans IPs that cause mul

Re: web alternative to knockd for a "secure" sshd server?

2007-04-20 Thread Nick Demou
On 4/20/07, Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 12:47:20PM +0300, Nick Demou wrote: > [...] > Any other idea of simple measures that will keep as many attackers > away from the one and only service that is listening to the Internet? > Well, if which outbound port

Re: web alternative to knockd for a "secure" sshd server?

2007-04-20 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 12:47:20PM +0300, Nick Demou wrote: > The only service that listens to the internet on my pcs is sshd (on > port 80 or 443 [1]). Since neither me nor sshd is perfect I would like > to get rid of as much attackers as possible. My idea was to use port > knocking. So I tested k

Re: web alternative to knockd for a "secure" sshd server?

2007-04-20 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Nick Demou wrote: > Any other idea of simple measures that will keep as many attackers > away from the one and only service that is listening to the Internet? Different approach, but the same goal: aptitude install fail2ban > bans IPs that cause multiple authentication > errors Monitors log fil

web alternative to knockd for a "secure" sshd server?

2007-04-20 Thread Nick Demou
The only service that listens to the internet on my pcs is sshd (on port 80 or 443 [1]). Since neither me nor sshd is perfect I would like to get rid of as much attackers as possible. My idea was to use port knocking. So I tested knockd and it seems nice[2] except one minor thing[3] and a major pr