Re: what happened to freeswan?

2003-07-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jamin W. Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.07.16.1709 +0200]: > Then the message was a peronsal message not a list message and thus the > filtering on list headers is not "unreliable" it worked perfectly. > Messages to the list end in the list box, messages to me end in a > personal box

Re: what happened to freeswan?

2003-07-16 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 08:31:30AM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote: > "Jamin W. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Since when is a list header from a known list "unreliable"? > > Since people may cc you personally, giving a transit path for a > message which does not contain said header. In oth

Re: what happened to freeswan?

2003-07-16 Thread Alan Shutko
"Jamin W. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Since when is a list header from a known list "unreliable"? Since people may cc you personally, giving a transit path for a message which does not contain said header. In other words, the reason this subthread exists. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROT

Re: what happened to freeswan?

2003-07-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Noah L. Meyerhans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.07.16.0251 +0200]: > Basically what's happening is that FreeS/WAN very emphatically > refuses to accept any contributions from US citizens. I usually support any political statement against the US government, the Patriot Act, etc. because I b

Re: what happened to freeswan?

2003-07-15 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 06:46:03PM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote: > "Jamin W. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Not if you sort your mail by list headers rather than unreliable To: or > > Cc: header lines. > > Obviously both are unreliable. So sort on both. Since when is a list header from

Re: what happened to freeswan?

2003-07-15 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 08:12:05PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Noah L. Meyerhans writes: > > Basically what's happening is that FreeS/WAN very emphatically refuses to > > accept any contributions from US citizens. > > That's utterly asinine. If true it is sufficient reason for me to never > use F

Re: what happened to freeswan?

2003-07-15 Thread John Hasler
Noah L. Meyerhans writes: > Basically what's happening is that FreeS/WAN very emphatically refuses to > accept any contributions from US citizens. That's utterly asinine. If true it is sufficient reason for me to never use FreeS/WAN. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, W

Re: what happened to freeswan?

2003-07-15 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 11:28:30PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.07.15.2304 +0200]: > > Unfortunately, what they are doing to keep the possibility of the > > US government trying to take action against them, has caused the > > mainline kernel devel

Re: what happened to freeswan?

2003-07-15 Thread Alan Shutko
"Jamin W. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Not if you sort your mail by list headers rather than unreliable To: or > Cc: header lines. Obviously both are unreliable. So sort on both. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the rocks. "Oh boy, I'm supposed to speak Italian." -- Sam Beck

Re: what happened to freeswan?

2003-07-15 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 05:17:01PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 04:02:42PM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > Both messages will be identical except for the "Received" headers! > > Procmail should put both in the same place, since if the message is > > addressed to you, and

Re: what happened to freeswan?

2003-07-15 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 04:02:42PM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Both messages will be identical except for the "Received" headers! > Procmail should put both in the same place, since if the message is > addressed to you, and the list, both messages will have the same > contents in To: and Cc:. They

Re: what happened to freeswan?

2003-07-15 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 12:02:53AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.07.15.2358 +0200]: > > If you read the mailing list you'll see many flame wars about > > this. Also, it was mentioned on LKML before the competing IPsec > > was merged too. > > I do

Re: what happened to freeswan?

2003-07-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.07.15.2358 +0200]: > If you read the mailing list you'll see many flame wars about > this. Also, it was mentioned on LKML before the competing IPsec > was merged too. I don't read either anymore. I guess I'll get at the archives when I have some ti

Re: what happened to freeswan?

2003-07-15 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 11:28:30PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.07.15.2304 +0200]: > > Unfortunately, what they are doing to keep the possibility of the > > US government trying to take action against them, has caused the > > mainline kernel devel

Re: what happened to freeswan?

2003-07-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.07.15.2304 +0200]: > Unfortunately, what they are doing to keep the possibility of the > US government trying to take action against them, has caused the > mainline kernel developers to refuse to include their work in the > mainline kernel. I haven'

Re: what happened to freeswan?

2003-07-15 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 12:52:11PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Noah L. Meyerhans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.07.13.1935 +0200]: > > Yeah, I'm not too happy about how freeswan is handled right now, either. > > I just talked to Rene. the 1.99 to 2.0 switch requires a rewrite of > the k

Re: what happened to freeswan?

2003-07-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Noah L. Meyerhans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.07.13.1935 +0200]: > Yeah, I'm not too happy about how freeswan is handled right now, either. I just talked to Rene. the 1.99 to 2.0 switch requires a rewrite of the kernel-patch. Thus it will take a little longer. But there will be a kernel

Re: what happened to freeswan?

2003-07-13 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 02:59:04PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > Rene isn't answering my mails. What happened to the FreeS/WAN kernel > patches? kernel-patch-freeswan-ext is gone, and > kernel-patch-freeswan is back to 1.96 (with 1.99 being the current > version). Moreover, freeswan-modules-sourc

what happened to freeswan?

2003-07-13 Thread martin f krafft
Rene isn't answering my mails. What happened to the FreeS/WAN kernel patches? kernel-patch-freeswan-ext is gone, and kernel-patch-freeswan is back to 1.96 (with 1.99 being the current version). Moreover, freeswan-modules-source seems to be new. I hope that Debian doesn't expect people to run FreeS