Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-27 Thread John Hasler
Andrew Sackville-West writes: > apt-get install schnauzer > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > E: Couldn't find package schnauzer The dog is non-free due to patents. You have to have a license from Pfizer. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUB

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 09:35:30PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > Note that I have no bias regarding kong and iceweasel. > > Also, I'm more than willing to embrace a counter example. OpenBSD has > had two remote holes in the base install in more than 10 years. And > I'm willing to wager

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 09:36:36AM -0700, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: > And, obviously, if security is your only standard, my pet schnauzer is a can the dog block popups? apt-get install schnauzer Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-27 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
And, obviously, if security is your only standard, my pet schnauzer is a better browser than either of these. Functionality must come into play as well. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
we're getting off track of my original point and rather than continue this festival of delights ;) I am going restate my original statement and attempt to demonstrate one more time what I meant originally. And then I'll be done. I'm sure you will either accept what I've said or counter it, but eit

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-27 Thread Erik Persson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 04:49:41AM +0200, Erik Persson wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 10:52:07PM +0200, Erik Persson wrote: Anyhow, the basic fact that there is fewer security alerts in Konq makes this a more secure browser, whether thi

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/26/07 23:05, Erik Persson wrote: [snip] > As long as nobody is interested in exploiting the konq bugs and everyone > wants to exploit the firefox bugs, I will be more secure using konq even > if there are more flaws in konq. Security when using a

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 04:49:41AM +0200, Erik Persson wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 10:52:07PM +0200, Erik Persson wrote: >>> Anyhow, the basic fact that there is fewer security alerts in Konq makes >>> this a more secure browser, whether this maybe is because o

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-26 Thread Erik Persson
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/26/07 15:52, Erik Persson wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: It seems that the mozilla-derived browsers have security issues requiring updates far more frequently than other browsers like Konqueror or links2. I'm curious as

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-26 Thread Erik Persson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 10:52:07PM +0200, Erik Persson wrote: Anyhow, the basic fact that there is fewer security alerts in Konq makes this a more secure browser, whether this maybe is because only of a smaller user base or not. I'm sorry, and i hate to argue wit

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 10:52:07PM +0200, Erik Persson wrote: > Anyhow, the basic fact that there is fewer security alerts in Konq makes > this a more secure browser, whether this maybe is because only of a smaller > user base or not. I'm sorry, and i hate to argue with people, but this last st

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/26/07 15:52, Erik Persson wrote: > Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: >> It seems that the mozilla-derived browsers have security issues >> requiring updates far more frequently than other browsers like Konqueror >> or links2. >> >> I'm curious as to why

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-26 Thread Erik Persson
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: It seems that the mozilla-derived browsers have security issues requiring updates far more frequently than other browsers like Konqueror or links2. I'm curious as to why this is. Does anyone have any ideas? I'm on dialup and switched to Konq for this very reason b

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/26/07 14:01, Andrew J. Barr wrote: > On 7/26/07, Mathias Brodala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi Douglas. >> >> Douglas Allan Tutty, 26.07.2007 18:23: >> > It seems that the mozilla-derived browsers have security issues >> > requiring updates fa

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-26 Thread Andrew J. Barr
On 7/26/07, Mathias Brodala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Douglas. Douglas Allan Tutty, 26.07.2007 18:23: > It seems that the mozilla-derived browsers have security issues > requiring updates far more frequently than other browsers like Konqueror > or links2. Aside from the fact that one softwa

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
John Hasler wrote: Doug writes: It seems that the mozilla-derived browsers have security issues requiring updates far more frequently than other browsers like Konqueror or links2. I'm curious as to why this is. Does anyone have any ideas? How many people are looking for holes in Konq or Li

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 02:06:11PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 07:13:48PM +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote: > > Douglas Allan Tutty, 26.07.2007 18:23: > > > It seems that the mozilla-derived browsers have security issues > > > requiring updates far more frequently than o

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-26 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hi Douglas. Douglas Allan Tutty, 26.07.2007 20:06: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 07:13:48PM +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote: >> Douglas Allan Tutty, 26.07.2007 18:23: >>> It seems that the mozilla-derived browsers have security issues >>> requiring updates far more frequently than other browsers like Kon

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-26 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 07:13:48PM +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote: > Douglas Allan Tutty, 26.07.2007 18:23: > > It seems that the mozilla-derived browsers have security issues > > requiring updates far more frequently than other browsers like Konqueror > > or links2. > > Aside from the fact that one

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-26 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hi Douglas. Douglas Allan Tutty, 26.07.2007 18:23: > It seems that the mozilla-derived browsers have security issues > requiring updates far more frequently than other browsers like Konqueror > or links2. Aside from the fact that one software really can be more secure than another one is this the

Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-26 Thread John Hasler
Doug writes: > It seems that the mozilla-derived browsers have security issues requiring > updates far more frequently than other browsers like Konqueror or links2. > I'm curious as to why this is. Does anyone have any ideas? How many people are looking for holes in Konq or Links2? -- John Ha

why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-26 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
It seems that the mozilla-derived browsers have security issues requiring updates far more frequently than other browsers like Konqueror or links2. I'm curious as to why this is. Does anyone have any ideas? I'm on dialup and switched to Konq for this very reason but sometimes I have a website