Re: wi-fi security?

2009-09-02 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi,02.sep.09, 10:18:10, Celejar wrote: > > > > I can imagine all but the paranoid users (like me ;) actually activating > > this after reading the paragraph above. > > Do you mean "I CAN'T imagine"? Of course, was a typo ;) Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't und

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-09-02 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:07:34 +0300 Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mon,31.Aug.09, 18:10:24, Celejar wrote: > > > > "Google did not explain why using this new feature was so important," > > Perry said. "This gives people who routinely log in to Gmail beginning > > with an https:// session a false sense

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-31 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,31.Aug.09, 18:10:24, Celejar wrote: > > "Google did not explain why using this new feature was so important," > Perry said. "This gives people who routinely log in to Gmail beginning > with an https:// session a false sense of security, because they think > they're secure but they're really

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-31 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:07:57 -0400 Nick Lidakis wrote: > On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 07:45:48AM -0400, Zachary Uram wrote: > > > 2) How do I make my laptop more secure so others on wifi network can't > > steal or sniff my packets? > > > > If you're using Gmail over wifi you should be logging in wi

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-31 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:55:46 -0500 "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: ... > Actually, I think I was referring to the earlier 12 to 15 minute attack, > although I didn't get either from slashdot. http://www.itworld.com/security/57285/once-thought-safe-wpa-wi-fi-encryption-cracked http://it.slashd

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-31 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 31 August 2009 01:04:57 Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:27:24 -0500 > "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: > > If the wireless network uses WPA, you might be safe. There are some > > fairly sophisticated attacks against WPA personal, that don't require > > much resources besides time.

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-30 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:27:24 -0500 "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: ... > If the wireless network uses WPA, you might be safe. There are some fairly > sophisticated attacks against WPA personal, that don't require much > resources besides time. So, treat those networks has if they have no > s

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-06 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <4a7b1eb8.1030...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de>, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: >Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> BTW, self-signed certificate != end-to-end security, it is trivial for >> an attacker to perform a man-in-the-middle attack. > >Except, if it is you who self-signed BOTH certificates (and v

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-06 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > BTW, self-signed certificate != end-to-end security, it is trivial for an > attacker to perform a man-in-the-middle attack. Except, if it is you who self-signed BOTH certificates (and verify that it is still the one

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-06 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul E Condon wrote: > I want DHCP in the Acer because I intend to use it in the outside world, > not merely on my LAN. But I want to set it up on my LAN, and hopefully, > prepare it for defending itself in the outside world. > > I now see wicd in apt

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-06 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-08-06_08:16:34, Preston Boyington wrote: > Manon Metten wrote: > > > ...when I tried this, aptitude asked if it should remove > > 'network-manager-kde'. As I'm using that app and don't have wireless, > > I cancelled the installation. > > > > yes, this will also happen if you are running

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-06 Thread Preston Boyington
Manon Metten wrote: > ...when I tried this, aptitude asked if it should remove > 'network-manager-kde'. As I'm using that app and don't have wireless, > I cancelled the installation. > yes, this will also happen if you are running the gnome network manager. it's sort of 'all or nothing'. anoth

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-06 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 12:27:24PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > However, NO wireless security protocol can protect you from packet sniffing > at or *behind* the AP. If the entity that provides the network is a > potential attacker, you must use end-to-end security (ssh, ssl, tls, vpn,

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-06 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 06 Aug 2009, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:50:29 +0100 > Anthony Campbell wrote: > > > When I installed network-manager a week ago it blocked wired access to my > > router. I expect I could have reconfigured it in some way but it turned > > out to be unnecessary for my purpose so

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-05 Thread Johann Spies
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:28:21PM -0500, Preston Boyington wrote: > Paul E Condon wrote: > > > wicd has been flawless for me since i started using it. After playing with wicd for a week or three I went back to network-manager. I cannot remember what my problem with wicd was, but it was just ea

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-05 Thread Johann Spies
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 12:37:30PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 2009-08-05_14:27:26, Johann Spies wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 07:45:48AM -0400, Zachary Uram wrote: > > > Got a new laptop and was wondering about wifi security. I've never > > > used wifi before. I wanted to go to some of t

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-05 Thread Nick Lidakis
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 07:45:48AM -0400, Zachary Uram wrote: > 2) How do I make my laptop more secure so others on wifi network can't > steal or sniff my packets? > If you're using Gmail over wifi you should be logging in with https:gmail.com. Using https encrypts not just the login but the ent

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-05 Thread Raquel
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:04:13 -0600 Paul E Condon wrote: > > I find myself with a very puzzling problem. I want to look at wicd, > but I can't. When I tried to install it with aptitude, I could not > find it using / search. Check your sources.list. wicd comes from the wicd repository rather tha

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-05 Thread Manon Metten
Hi Paul, Sorry, made an error. You should use or course: > # aptitude install -t lenny-backports wicd Greetings, Manon. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Manon Metten wrote: > Hi Paul, > > I'm running Lenny and found wicd on Debian Backports at: > http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/wicd

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-05 Thread Manon Metten
Hi Paul, I'm running Lenny and found wicd on Debian Backports at: http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/wicd You should add the next line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (ie: if you're too using Lenny) deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ lenny-backports main contrib non-free run 'aptitude upd

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-05 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-08-05_15:28:21, Preston Boyington wrote: > Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > > I am having some difficulty with network-manager. Aptitude says it is > > installed on my Acer Aspire one... > > Paul, seriously take a look at wicd. network-manager is now the second > thing I uninstall on my De

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-05 Thread Micha Feigin
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:50:29 +0100 Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 05 Aug 2009, Michael Ekstrand wrote: > > > > > > The easiest way is to use network-manager. If you click on the Icon > > > in your toolbar it should show you the detected networks. You can use > > > the "Create New Wireless Network

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-05 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Zachary Uram [2009 Aug 05 07:04 -0500]: > Got a new laptop and was wondering about wifi security. I've never > used wifi before. I wanted to go to some of the local coffee shops > that offer free wii but I need to know: > > 1) How do I setup wifi in Linux? Have a supported chipset (Atheros is

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-05 Thread Preston Boyington
Paul E Condon wrote: > I am having some difficulty with network-manager. Aptitude says it is > installed on my Acer Aspire one... Paul, seriously take a look at wicd. network-manager is now the second thing I uninstall on my Debian/Ubuntu machines (the first being the update-manager because I

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-05 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-08-05_14:27:26, Johann Spies wrote: > On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 07:45:48AM -0400, Zachary Uram wrote: > > Got a new laptop and was wondering about wifi security. I've never > > used wifi before. I wanted to go to some of the local coffee shops > > that offer free wii but I need to know: > >

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , Zachary Uram wrote: >2) How do I make my laptop more secure so others on wifi network can't >steal or sniff my packets? That depends on the security used by the network, which is not a choice you make when connecting to it, but rather a choice made by the entity that provides the network.

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-05 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 05 Aug 2009, Michael Ekstrand wrote: > > > > The easiest way is to use network-manager. If you click on the Icon > > in your toolbar it should show you the detected networks. You can use > > the "Create New Wireless Network..." or "Connect to Hidden Wireless > > Network..." to set up connecti

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-05 Thread Michael Ekstrand
Johann Spies wrote: > On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 07:45:48AM -0400, Zachary Uram wrote: >> Got a new laptop and was wondering about wifi security. I've never >> used wifi before. I wanted to go to some of the local coffee shops >> that offer free wii but I need to know: >> >> 1) How do I setup wifi in

Re: wi-fi security?

2009-08-05 Thread Johann Spies
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 07:45:48AM -0400, Zachary Uram wrote: > Got a new laptop and was wondering about wifi security. I've never > used wifi before. I wanted to go to some of the local coffee shops > that offer free wii but I need to know: > > 1) How do I setup wifi in Linux? The easiest way is

wi-fi security?

2009-08-05 Thread Zachary Uram
Got a new laptop and was wondering about wifi security. I've never used wifi before. I wanted to go to some of the local coffee shops that offer free wii but I need to know: 1) How do I setup wifi in Linux? 1) How do I detect and connect to public free network(s)? 2) How do I make my laptop more s