Re: xorg xfree86

2007-01-18 Thread Bill Smith
John L Fjellstad wrote: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: xfree86 changed its licence to something not very free, so what happened is that xorg foundation took the last remaining freely-licenced xfree86 code and renamed it xorg, then started working on that. Loads of other distros

Re: xorg xfree86

2007-01-18 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2007-01-15 at 17:22 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: xfree86 changed its licence to something not very free, so what happened is that xorg foundation took the last remaining freely-licenced xfree86 code and renamed it xorg, then started working on that. I think the actual license

Re: xorg xfree86

2007-01-17 Thread John L Fjellstad
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: xfree86 changed its licence to something not very free, so what happened is that xorg foundation took the last remaining freely-licenced xfree86 code and renamed it xorg, then started working on that. Loads of other distros use xorg now, and I

xorg xfree86

2007-01-15 Thread Raghu Kodali
I am not very clear about the differences between xorg xfree86. Why did we move from xfree86 in sarge to xorg in Etch? I tried to google it. I could get only individual information but not a comparision. Thanks Raghu It is better to throw windows out of the computer than throwing

Re: xorg xfree86

2007-01-15 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On 1/15/07, Raghu Kodali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not very clear about the differences between xorg xfree86. Why did we move from xfree86 in sarge to xorg in Etch? I tried to google it. I could get only individual information but not a comparision. xfree86 changed its licence

Re: xorg xfree86

2007-01-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:59:22 +0530 Raghu Kodali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not very clear about the differences between xorg xfree86. Why did we move from xfree86 in sarge to xorg in Etch? I tried to google it. I could get only individual information but not a comparision. Licence issues

Re: xorg xfree86

2007-01-15 Thread W Paul Mills
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Raghu Kodali wrote: I am not very clear about the differences between xorg xfree86. Why did we move from xfree86 in sarge to xorg in Etch? I tried to google it. I could get only individual information but not a comparision. License issues

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-06 Thread Thomas Dickey
Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 11:03:01PM +, Thomas Dickey wrote: Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the reasons why there was not a modularized source tree in XFree86 was that it was not allowed to happen. No? So XFree86 never could have it, while

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-06 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 11:22:24 -, Thomas Dickey wrote: Kevin Mark wrote: On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 11:03:01PM +, Thomas Dickey wrote: Kevin Mark wrote: One of the reasons why there was not a modularized source tree in XFree86 was that it was not allowed to happen. No? So

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-06 Thread Thomas Dickey
Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for developers to contribute. Someone can make such a statement without being an aspiring contributor himself. I see neither a promise nor a lie in what he writes. The lie was this: stating that it was not allowed to happen. Anytime the topic came up,

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-06 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 16:24:04 -, Thomas Dickey wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: for developers to contribute. Someone can make such a statement without being an aspiring contributor himself. I see neither a promise nor a lie in what he writes. The lie was this: stating that it was

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-06 Thread Thomas Dickey
Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 16:24:04 -, Thomas Dickey wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: for developers to contribute. Someone can make such a statement without being an aspiring contributor himself. I see neither a promise nor a lie in what he writes.

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-06 Thread Paul E Condon
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 07:06:22PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 16:24:04 -, Thomas Dickey wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: for developers to contribute. Someone can make such a statement without being an aspiring contributor himself. I see neither a promise nor

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-05 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hello Kevin. Kevin Mark, 05.11.2006 03:08: One of the major differences between XFree86 and Xorg is the use of modularized source. Nope. That’s the difference between Release 6.9 and 7.0 and has nothing to do with differences between XFree86 and Xorg. (Although the former doesn’t have a

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-05 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 11:13:59AM +0100, Mathias Brodala wrote: Hello Kevin. Kevin Mark, 05.11.2006 03:08: One of the major differences between XFree86 and Xorg is the use of modularized source. Nope. Huh? That???s the difference between Release 6.9 and 7.0 and has nothing to do

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-05 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hello Kevin. Kevin Mark, 05.11.2006 19:03: That means: if you want a monolithic X-server, you can have one with Xorg too. So its possible to have a monolithic Xorg X server. Debian does not package one. Who does? How about Debian[0]? (I would have accepted your statement if was the

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-05 Thread Thomas Dickey
Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the reasons why there was not a modularized source tree in XFree86 was that it was not allowed to happen. No? So XFree86 never could have it, while Xorg now does. And this lead to XFree86 development being harder than Xorg. To me this is a differnce,

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-05 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 07:04:28PM +0100, Mathias Brodala wrote: Hello Kevin. Kevin Mark, 05.11.2006 19:03: That means: if you want a monolithic X-server, you can have one with Xorg too. So its possible to have a monolithic Xorg X server. Debian does not package one. Who does?

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-05 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 11:03:01PM +, Thomas Dickey wrote: Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the reasons why there was not a modularized source tree in XFree86 was that it was not allowed to happen. No? So XFree86 never could have it, while Xorg now does. And this lead to

xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-04 Thread ChadDavis
Hey there. What X system does my recent (installed yesterday ) debian etch system use? Isn't there adifference between xfree86 and xorg? The docs I found on the debian site are for xfree86 but my system seems to have X11 / xorg stuff on it? Sort me out if I'm clueless. Respect.

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-04 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 04:38:36PM -0700, ChadDavis wrote: Hey there. What X system does my recent (installed yesterday ) debian etch system use? Isn't there adifference between xfree86 and xorg? The docs I found on the debian site are for xfree86 but my system seems to have X11 / xorg stuff

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 04:38:36PM -0700, ChadDavis wrote: Hey there. What X system does my recent (installed yesterday ) debian etch system use? xorg Isn't there adifference between xfree86 and xorg? yes. i think xorg is a fork of xf86. try google. A signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-04 Thread Russell L. Harris
ChadDavis wrote: Hey there. What X system does my recent (installed yesterday ) debian etch system use? Isn't there adifference between xfree86 and xorg? The docs I found on the debian site are for xfree86 but my system seems to have X11 / xorg stuff on it? Sort me out if I'm clueless.

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-04 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 05:00:28PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 04:38:36PM -0700, ChadDavis wrote: Hey there. What X system does my recent (installed yesterday ) debian etch system use? Isn't there adifference between xfree86 and xorg? The docs I found on the debian

xorg xfree86 : c'est quoi la différence ?

2006-08-04 Thread hector dupont
xorg est un fork de xfree86 ? xfree86 : c'est l'ancêtre ? xorg a pris le dessus sur xfree86 ? dans sarge, c'est bien xfree86 ? merci d'avance -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos

Re: xorg xfree86 : c'est quoi la différence ?

2006-08-04 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO Pendant le journal télévisé du vendredi 04 août 2006, vers 20:09, hector dupont [EMAIL PROTECTED] disait: xorg est un fork de xfree86 ? Oui. xfree86 : c'est l'ancêtre ? Oui. xorg a pris le dessus sur xfree86 ? Oui. dans sarge, c'est bien xfree86 ? Oui. -- I WILL NOT GREASE THE

Re: xorg xfree86 : c'est quoi la différence ?

2006-08-04 Thread hector dupont
Vincent Bernat a écrit : OoO Pendant le journal télévisé du vendredi 04 août 2006, vers 20:09,hector dupont [EMAIL PROTECTED] disait: y a encore un journal tv ? je croyais qu'il n'y avait que de la pub ? xorg est un fork de xfree86 ? Oui. xfree86 : c'est l'ancêtre ?

Re: xorg / xfree86

2006-02-10 Thread Rudi Effe
Am Mittwoch 08 Februar 2006 09:37 schrieb Klaus Becker: Ich habe vergeblich versucht, mittels dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg wieder auf xfree86 umzusteigen. Entweder es kamen Fehlermeldungen oder es kamen keine, aber bei einem anschließenden startx kam die gleiche Fehlermeldung: no screens

xorg / xfree86

2006-02-08 Thread Klaus Becker
Moin, unter Sarge-AMD86 hab' ich xorg gewählt. Klappte auch zuerst, beim Neustart hatte ich aber kein X mehr: no screens found. Ich habe vergeblich versucht, mittels dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg wieder auf xfree86 umzusteigen. Entweder es kamen Fehlermeldungen oder es kamen keine, aber bei

Re: xorg / xfree86

2006-02-08 Thread Sven Hartge
Klaus Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unter Sarge-AMD86 hab' ich xorg gewählt. Klappte auch zuerst, beim Neustart hatte ich aber kein X mehr: no screens found. ?! Seit wann hat Sarge Xorg? S° -- Sven Hartge -- professioneller Unix-Geek Meine Gedanken im Netz: http://www.svenhartge.de/ --

Re: xorg / xfree86

2006-02-08 Thread Klaus Becker
Le Mercredi 8 Février 2006 09:43, Sven Hartge a écrit : Klaus Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unter Sarge-AMD86 hab' ich xorg gewählt. Klappte auch zuerst, beim Neustart hatte ich aber kein X mehr: no screens found. ?! Seit wann hat Sarge Xorg? das ist sicher ein backport Klaus

Re: xorg / xfree86

2006-02-08 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 08.02.06 09:37:12, Klaus Becker wrote: unter Sarge-AMD86 hab' ich xorg gewählt. Klappte auch zuerst, beim Neustart hatte ich aber kein X mehr: no screens found. Was steht im X11-Log? Ich habe vergeblich versucht, mittels dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg wieder auf xfree86 umzusteigen.

Re: xorg / xfree86

2006-02-08 Thread Malte Spiess
Klaus Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Moin, unter Sarge-AMD86 hab' ich xorg gewählt. Klappte auch zuerst, beim Neustart hatte ich aber kein X mehr: no screens found. Ich habe vergeblich versucht, mittels dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg wieder auf xfree86 umzusteigen. Entweder es kamen

Re: xorg / xfree86

2006-02-08 Thread Klaus Becker
Le Mercredi 8 Février 2006 12:38, Andreas Pakulat a écrit : On 08.02.06 09:37:12, Klaus Becker wrote: unter Sarge-AMD86 hab' ich xorg gewählt. Klappte auch zuerst, beim Neustart hatte ich aber kein X mehr: no screens found. Was steht im X11-Log? Am Ende von /var/Xorg.0.log steht: (II)

Re: xorg / xfree86

2006-02-08 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 08.02.06 14:31:02, Klaus Becker wrote: Le Mercredi 8 Février 2006 12:38, Andreas Pakulat a écrit : On 08.02.06 09:37:12, Klaus Becker wrote: unter Sarge-AMD86 hab' ich xorg gewählt. Klappte auch zuerst, beim Neustart hatte ich aber kein X mehr: no screens found. Was steht im

Re: xorg / xfree86

2006-02-08 Thread Klaus Becker
Le Mittwoch 8 Februar 2006 15:31, Andreas Pakulat a écrit : On 08.02.06 14:31:02, Klaus Becker wrote: Le Mercredi 8 Février 2006 12:38, Andreas Pakulat a écrit : On 08.02.06 09:37:12, Klaus Becker wrote: unter Sarge-AMD86 hab' ich xorg gewählt. Klappte auch zuerst, beim Neustart

Re: xorg / xfree86

2006-02-08 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 08.02.06 16:00:29, Klaus Becker wrote: Le Mittwoch 8 Februar 2006 15:31, Andreas Pakulat a écrit : On 08.02.06 14:31:02, Klaus Becker wrote: Le Mercredi 8 Février 2006 12:38, Andreas Pakulat a écrit : On 08.02.06 09:37:12, Klaus Becker wrote: unter Sarge-AMD86 hab' ich xorg

Re: xorg / xfree86

2006-02-08 Thread Klaus Becker
Le Mittwoch 8 Februar 2006 17:36, Andreas Pakulat a écrit : On 08.02.06 16:00:29, Klaus Becker wrote: Le Mittwoch 8 Februar 2006 15:31, Andreas Pakulat a écrit : On 08.02.06 14:31:02, Klaus Becker wrote: Le Mercredi 8 Février 2006 12:38, Andreas Pakulat a écrit : On 08.02.06

Re: xorg / xfree86

2006-02-08 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 08.02.06 17:21:17, Klaus Becker wrote: Le Mittwoch 8 Februar 2006 17:36, Andreas Pakulat a écrit : On 08.02.06 16:00:29, Klaus Becker wrote: Le Mittwoch 8 Februar 2006 15:31, Andreas Pakulat a écrit : On 08.02.06 14:31:02, Klaus Becker wrote: Le Mercredi 8 Février 2006 12:38,

Re: xorg / xfree86

2006-02-08 Thread Daniel Leidert
Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 17:21 +0100 schrieb Klaus Becker: Le Mittwoch 8 Februar 2006 17:36, Andreas Pakulat a écrit : On 08.02.06 16:00:29, Klaus Becker wrote: Le Mittwoch 8 Februar 2006 15:31, Andreas Pakulat a écrit : On 08.02.06 14:31:02, Klaus Becker wrote: Le Mercredi 8

Re: xorg / xfree86

2006-02-08 Thread Klaus Becker
ich hab' den xorg-von Ati installiert, dpkg-reconfigue xserver-xorg ausgeführt, vesa statt ati ausgewählt und habe wieder x! Mal interessehalber: Was steht nun in deiner xorg.conf als Wert für 'Driver'? Welchen xorg-von Ati? Was für eine Grafikkarte? ~$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |

Re: xorg / xfree86

2006-02-08 Thread Daniel Leidert
Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 18:03 +0100 schrieb Klaus Becker: ich hab' den xorg-von Ati installiert, dpkg-reconfigue xserver-xorg ausgeführt, vesa statt ati ausgewählt und habe wieder x! Mal interessehalber: Was steht nun in deiner xorg.conf als Wert für 'Driver'? Welchen