Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/07 23:17, Amy Templeton wrote: Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:03:18PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/08/07 21:55, Amy Templeton wrote: [snip] It's a private college, and have no desire to make

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-08 Thread Ron Johnson
up around this stuff, and so it's good that that's breaking down. There's room for everyone! You're missing the point. His relative aren't Using Linux, they are using a *tool*. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 00:04, SB wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/08/07 19:55, SB wrote: [snip] It's the claim of an exclusive franchise on truth by some (mainly Judaism, Christianity and Islam) closely related religions that has compelled them to justify

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 04:02, Jochen Schulz wrote: Ron Johnson: And Christianity teaches love your neighbor as yourself. That doesn't mean that the humans who purport to believe in it actually follow it correctly. In a religion that constantly reminds

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 03:56, SB wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] And Christianity teaches love your neighbor as yourself. If Christianity stopped there it would really help, unfortunately it doesn't. That's the difference between what the Holy Book says

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 04:08, SB wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/09/07 04:02, Jochen Schulz wrote: Ron Johnson: And Christianity teaches love your neighbor as yourself. That doesn't mean that the humans who purport to believe in it actually follow

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 05:10, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 07:08:42PM +1000, SB wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] You haven't read the Bible lately, have you? Does it get updated on a regular basis ? It is feature complete and bug-free

Re: [ in /usr/bin Question

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
escapes whatever character comes next, making the program that is reading the data interpret it literally instead of as a special character. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 08:11, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 05:23:13AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/09/07 05:10, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 07:08:42PM +1000, SB wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] You haven't read

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
murder (illegal killing), not generralized killing. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGQdQHS9HxQb37XmcRAgkHAJ9BvsPiHiORLp0/1nSz9

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
single disagreement was discussed until a general consensus was reached on each. As were the ASV, the RSV, the NASB the NIV. Plus all the non-English language translations. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
non-Christian activity. This is because they should easily be able to determine that certain activities just manifestly go against the tone of the New Testament. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 15:54, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:12:05 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:49:41PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 05:23:13 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/09/07 05:10

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 10:47, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:54:57AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/09/07 08:11, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 05:23:13AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/09/07 05:10, Roberto C

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
East) has been *profoundly* influenced by Christianity (both positively and negatively, by Roman Catholicism and Protestantism), it would greatly behoove you to learn more about the book that so greatly influenced the people who came before you. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
learning Arabic, in order to read the Koran in the original tongue. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
a whole lot of non-English-speaking educated businessmen who would dispute your pro-English jingoism. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 17:15, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 04:58:21PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/09/07 10:47, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Well, since we are getting all scientific, the ratio of the diameter of a circle to its

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 10:41, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:34:56AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/09/07 08:24, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: [snip] 3) Anything God does is, by definition, right. While true from a Believer's POV

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 17:04, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 04:12:03PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9 May, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:02:24AM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: Ron Johnson: By definition

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 10:40, Amy Templeton wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/08/07 23:17, Amy Templeton wrote: Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:03:18PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/08/07 21:55, Amy Templeton wrote: [snip

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
about environmental issues? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGQlXzS9HxQb37XmcRAqB0AJ9pJ8qDv/qvwldeTjPpSRwB5hvwlwCeNhdb

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
xterms. Screen(1) is what Unix users used before x terminals and PCs were inexpensive enough for everyone to have one. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6

Re: [ in /usr/bin Question

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
). Unfortunately, this doesn't help a lot with the shell, the same problems exist in the shell script file as exist on the command line. Or a pseudofile. Here's a simple example: python EOF import time print time.time() EOF - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 19:11, SB wrote: John Fleming wrote: - Original Message - From: SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 5:08 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Good, evil

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 19:10, SB wrote: Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:00:39AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: There is great debate as to whether the Hebrew says kill or murder. Since, in the Old Testament, YHWH (the Tetragrammaton, or Name

Re: [OT] Re: SSH versus SSHFS

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
should have noticed that the thread was drifting when someone added [OT] to the Subject. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux

Re: language locales

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 19:52, Tom Allison wrote: Where do you control the language locales? Your question is pretty ambiguous, but the answer to you question *might* be: # dpkg-reconfigure locales - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 20:09, Tyler Smith wrote: On 2007-05-10, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She's a user wizard, not an admin wizard. Clearly! Screen(1) is what Unix users used before x terminals and PCs were inexpensive enough for everyone

Re: [ in /usr/bin Question

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGQnneS9HxQb37XmcRAq6/AJ4ogZhyf1X126XB6bImyWWiW1Y4AgCgsvej COQfWyVFBLw1++WyzOcYgeU= =nRwC -END

Re: [OT] Screen

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
. A female that writes lisp? I'm highly suspicious. Ratpoison's in the Debian repos, I believe (stumpwm is too, but it's just a CVS snapshot, which is what's available). - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away

Re: OO.org and java

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
.. Thanks Yes. $ COLUMNS=80 dpkg -l | grep sun-java | cut -c1-30 ii sun-java5-bin 1.5.0-11-1 ii sun-java5-font 1.5.0-11-1 ii sun-java5-jre 1.5.0-11-1 ii sun-java5-plug 1.5.0-11-1 - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes

Re: Trimming the fat off an installation

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
use is also helpful. After you do that, run gtkorphan and be semi-aggressive about what you zap, but also rely on the simulate option so that your bad judgment doesn't hose you. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away

Re: OO.org and java

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
.. Thanks Yes. ok so if it's not working for me, should I create a bug for that? or do you have an idea why is it not working here? Asking on debian-openoffice would probably be more productive. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGQuGjS9HxQb37XmcRAsjkAKDJfdkOW2C7c+POKYbyy1DfXGn+RQCePkiK a6Bajbp3IOxGANYAAcUfuv8= =z5gb

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
. If you don't, the big stick of the law comes down upon you. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGQuNbS9HxQb37XmcRAtKNAKCyjFl

Re: strange ? characters all over the screen in aptitude, mc and other ncurses programs

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
displayed with reverse video. What do I need so ncurses displays these correctly? I guess this has to do somethign with either whiptail or readline? A screen-print posted to a web- or ftp-site would be darned useful. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 04:09, steef wrote: [snip] nice talking, joe. i have a question: what do you think of the thesis: 'where belief begins reason ends' ?? String theory? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 04:40, Joe Hart wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] I am playing the Devil's advocate here. So I might as well fulfill my role. So, you're saying God was merciful on Isaac because a lamb was sacrificed instead. Fine. So God demanded

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
for batch queues!) - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGQ5bWS9HxQb37XmcRAh/MAKCdssn0trshapMax0YpOLa+bun8AwCdFVv

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
programs is perfectly legal... This is true in the US as well. Are you sure? The DMCA seems to prohibit such activities. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 05:59, Joe Hart wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Suicide should be legal, but euthanasia is someone else killing you, and I see that as a great slippery slope towards total government control over life. Well, it isn't. Neither

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
and upgrade. Did you just contradict yourself? They're *great* at IO. And they're durable. Does AIX have batch queues? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 09:07, ann kok wrote: Hi all Can debian support swap bigger than 4G? $ man mkswap On i386, each swap area is a maximum 2GiB, and you can have 32 of them. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats

Re: [OT] inline python (was Re: [ in /usr/bin Question)

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
because it is not cryptic is, well, a comfortable belief, I suppose. Ken - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGQ5

Re: Installing Mozilla Sunbird With Debian On AMD64

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
in understanding this. Why not download the deb-src and build for your $ARCH? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux

Re: Removing Gnome

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
? It depends. Of course, it's not really *necessary* to get rid of GNOME: just stop using it. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGQ7

Re: Trimming the fat off an installation

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
and it only removes that one package, then you've got your answer!! If it wants to also remove higher dependencies, then you can decide whether you also want to get rid of the other packages. A second xterm from which you can run apt-cache show is a big help. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
that money on extra RAM. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGQ8NjS9HxQb37XmcRAlOkAJ42lkB4tbQIrtCyOp24oEfdUO+2VgCg14bE Av

Re: Help Installing sun-java6-ce

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
not upgraded. Need to get 42.0MB of archives. After unpacking 125MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? N - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 22:11, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 08:14:11PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/10/07 18:10, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [snip] And if you say make a SSD, then I say that it's still slower than RAM because disk

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 22:34, cga2000 wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 06:04:06PM EDT, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/10/07 11:27, william pursell wrote: [snip] be sitting in the editor where you left it. It provides continuity by allowing you to leave your shells

Re: How do yo u install minimal X with fluxbox on Etch?

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
can, with ssh. Install those apps, and the minimal amount of X needed to run them will be installed. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 04:40, Joe Hart wrote: Celejar wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007 11:40:01 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] I am playing the Devil's advocate here. So I

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
, God is a He. Or a computer nebula. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godfellas When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all. God You should, if you've never seen it, watch Futurama episode 3ACV20. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish

Re: swap

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 06:42, Greg Folkert wrote: On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 17:22 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/10/07 16:12, Greg Folkert wrote: [snip] I guess that's called a mainframe :) No, mainframes are not really that capable as a holy grail to set your

Re: swap

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 21:37, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 05:25:10PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/10/07 09:07, ann kok wrote: Hi all Can debian support swap bigger than 4G? $ man mkswap On i386, each swap area is a maximum

Re: exporting a variable to global shells

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
on Unix-like systems. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGRHVOS9HxQb37XmcRAm0TAJ924do26wWlvpOkCZvacaClKRtLjgCgmnVs kraZbyS+k5

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
then a single point-in-time experience when you actually are born. Still, that communal pressure is, of course, a gross perversion of the whole tenor of the New Testament. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good

Re: How do yo u install minimal X with fluxbox on Etch?

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 08:17, Liam O'Toole wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2007 07:44:07 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 05/11/07 04:12, Deboo ^ wrote: Even though I do not need to install X on my new Etch console system, I would like to know how do

Re: [OT] Terminology [was: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)]

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 11:08, Amy Templeton wrote: Calejar wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: There are those of us who believe that claims of discrimination became trite many years ago. Amy Templeton wrote: I'm inclined to disagree; it is more subtle now

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 12:49, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, but competent OSs have batch queues for running such jobs. Why Unix has never had such a capability is beyond my understanding. man batch: at, batch, atq, atrm - queue

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
note, I recently did actually get through to someone (next year she plans not to use any .docs on her little area on the school website)! Great. What techniques did you use to convince her? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
mainstream, traditional Western religions are there besides Christianity? Anyone can believe anything he (or she) wants, but if females choose to believe that God is a she just because that suits their vanity, that's just silly. Females acting silly and vain??? Say it ain't so!!! - -- Ron

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
is a He. I'm sure that there are open minded Christians that refer to God as a Her. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
it reminded them of their pre-Christian lives and might draw them back into that lifestyle. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux

Re: iceape (mozilla browser) and CSS of gallery website

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
after a few magnification steps. Is it just my iceape or is something wrong with the web page (bad CSS)? This is on Debian Etch, fully updated. Same thing happens to me with iceweasel. As for whether it's a Mozilla or page issue, good question... :\ - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA

Re: [Fwd: Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?]

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 18:04, Miles Fidelman wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/11/07 15:19, Celejar wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2007 13:26:34 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Let us just agree that to you, God is a He

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 18:15, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 05:54:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/11/07 16:02, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: [snip] 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word

Re: [Fwd: Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?]

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 18:22, Miles Fidelman wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: In the mainstream, traditional Western religions, God is described as He. How many mainstream, traditional Western religions are there besides Christianity

Re: [Fwd: Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?]

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 19:40, Miles Fidelman wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: the Western world, there's not a lot of love lost between Hindus and Muslims - but both are pretty mainstream (depending on where you are). I guess it depends on your definition

Re: [OT] Terminology [was: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)]

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
. Here, up until 20ish years ago, you only had the right to *pursue* happiness. [snip] - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 19:36, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 05/11/07 12:49, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, but competent OSs have batch queues for running such jobs. Why Unix has never had such a capability

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-12 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/12/07 03:48, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 16:55:07 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/09/07 15:54, Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] It always struck me as odd that the gospels could not agree on whether Josef and Maria had

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-12 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/12/07 02:58, Joe Hart wrote: Celejar wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2007 11:40:20 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007 11:40:01 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] I am

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-12 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/12/07 02:51, william pursell wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/11/07 19:36, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 05/11/07 12:49, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How do you limit the number of batch jobs

Re: More Iceweasel strangeness

2007-05-12 Thread Ron Johnson
.) Examples? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGRcvVS9HxQb37XmcRAi/6AKCO1aq4J8dXE9yNoOTQEeqce6JC+gCgzWVL wByE9mW/TtOjIq/C0aOgm2A= =uZ0V

How to blacklist (was Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law)

2007-05-14 Thread Ron Johnson
for blacklisting people? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGSQXPS9HxQb37XmcRArxtAJ42DUp+VCvGhAOIbU8++FrfskCNSgCffA2e s7D5ZCM99

Re: Packaged version of killfile?

2007-05-15 Thread Ron Johnson
), I'd rather be using something supported... Any ideas? AIUI, killfiles are client (MUA and newsreader) features. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-15 Thread Ron Johnson
of the Christian bible. You must mean the *Jewish* bible, aka the *Old* Testament. And not know much about Christianity. The bedrock of Christianity is that Jesus was the *final* sacrifice, washing all sin away so that animal sacrifice is no longer needed or wanted by YHWH. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr

Re: Preventing delayed USB writes

2007-05-15 Thread Ron Johnson
the single-user mindset and proper unmount tapes when you are finished using them. In GNOME, when you right-click on a USB stick icon there is a choice to Unmount volume. I'm sure than KDE has something similar. You and your wife should just train yourselves to this new reality. - -- Ron Johnson

Re: Get wirless working

2007-05-15 Thread Ron Johnson
on a foundation of mud, thank you very much, as long as lots of pilings are driven deep. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux

Re: Problems getting pics from Minolta

2007-05-15 Thread Ron Johnson
Dimage V - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGSlVBS9HxQb37XmcRAoOOAKCVwA7GWmYe1AU5mleKfxVZCcD2WwCfRJw2 on3gyppjdbHqN+exTDeocfQ= =NQhR

Re: Preventing delayed USB writes

2007-05-15 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/15/07 23:00, Brendan wrote: On Tuesday 15 May 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/15/07 15:52, pedxing wrote: I would like to configure things so that, for instance, when I (ok, actually my wife) use konqueror to copy songs to my mp3 player

Re: Preventing delayed USB writes

2007-05-15 Thread Ron Johnson
that they had to do this in Windows as well. Some of them learned the hard way ... I copied my powerpoint to the USB stick, took out the stick, went to the class and tried to project the lecture to the screen but it won't work! - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he

Re: Preventing delayed USB writes

2007-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/15/07 23:55, Paul E Condon wrote: [snip] the fs. But I suppose that in this modern world everything is disposable, including memory sticks. They are, in a way: Amazon has 512MB Kingston sticks for US$2.59. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA

Re: Preventing delayed USB writes

2007-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
the life of a thumb drive? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGSrsrS9HxQb37XmcRAopTAKCEQQLJonO3Dl/vn7ohTpI2kcCk0ACg4Ej9 EFZ

Re: OT - Dilbert on the ethics of e-mail etiquette

2007-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
posting is preferable to bottom posting without snipping. Also it is preferable to snip the sig and any disclaimers etc. Proper MUAs auto-snip everything under the -- . (Web gmail is *not* a proper MUA.) - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
not a compromise. With that phrase, Israel's Eevil jealous monotheistic deity (well, the priests who wrote it, since There Is No God) changed the bedrock of jurisprudence from *vengeance* to *reciprocity*. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him

Re: OT - Dilbert on the ethics of e-mail etiquette

2007-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
feature requests have been implemented. You have standing, though, so it would be nice if you made the request... :) - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6

Re: Preventing delayed USB writes

2007-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/16/07 03:09, Nelson Castillo wrote: On 5/16/07, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (cut) What you *could* do is add an entry to root's crontab which runs sync(1) every 15 or 30 seconds

Re: Preventing delayed USB writes

2007-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/16/07 02:49, pedxing wrote: On May 16, 9:40 am, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] They are, in a way: Amazon has 512MB Kingston sticks for US$2.59. But flash-based mp3 players aren't quite so cheap or disposable... MP3 players

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
are not a Christian you are not spiritual? Follow the thread and you will see Roberto clarify his statement. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/16/07 00:39, Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 03:09:06AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Sure, but the Hindus aren't doing it in the name of God, Allah, Shiva or whatever. Hinduism has other problems but claiming an exclusive

Re: have 'liberated' your fonts yet?

2007-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/16/07 07:47, Kevin Mark wrote: Has anyone installed the liberation fonts? Any comments on them. I seem to like the fine, more detailed look. $ wajig search liberation $ What's a liberation font? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give

Re: have 'liberated' your fonts yet?

2007-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/16/07 10:26, Jonathan Kaye wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/16/07 07:47, Kevin Mark wrote: Has anyone installed the liberation fonts? Any comments on them. I seem to like the fine, more detailed look. $ wajig search liberation $ What's

Re: bzip2 gzip binaries empty after usage

2007-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
. It seems to randomly happen. Anyone else having this problem? Randomly happen $ dir /bin/bzip2 - -rwxr-xr-x 3 root root 25304 2006-08-25 12:20 /bin/bzip2* $ dir /bin/gzip - -rwxr-xr-x 4 root root 53984 2006-12-21 10:17 /bin/gzip* - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish

Re: The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
ridiculous this statement is: the sort of bullshit fed to young-uns on a daily basis. Perhaps if I was a catholic I would have been given 'the lilies of the field' instead. Sure, question it. And then realize that TANSTAAFL is a universal truth. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man

Re: Connect to Internet through cable

2007-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
to it. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGS8akS9HxQb37XmcRAjTeAJ97jMsBjR6xIV98cEoGXJDGk7D3SgCeN3VF ZexSXdL5nqWD0/GPFNGKdgw= =w5Mh

Re: fetchmail: POP3 -ERR unable to scan $HOME/Maildir

2007-05-17 Thread Ron Johnson
by `maildirmake ~/Maildir', but the problem still exists. Why is POP looking in $HOME/Maildir? ~/Maildir is where emails are deposited after being fetched from the POP server. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away

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