Re: Request for comments [voting amendment]

2002-11-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 08:16:40AM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 06:03:54PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > 4. If an option has a supermajority requirement, that option must > >defeat the default option by the ratio of votes specified in the > >quorum require

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Re: Request for comments [voting amendment]

2002-11-13 Thread Jochen Voss
Hello, On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 06:03:54PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > 4. If an option has a supermajority requirement, that option must >defeat the default option by the ratio of votes specified in the >quorum requirement or the option is eliminated. ^^ is t

Re: Request for comments [voting amendment]

2002-11-13 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, So who did come up with the mistake "Schultz", and did they eat too many peanuts? ;-) Anthony Towns: > The correct restatement is something more like: > > { x | forall y: y >> x --> x >>> y } > Or, in understandable language: The Schwartz set is the innermost unbeaten set, or the sma

Re: Request for comments [voting amendment]

2002-11-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 06:13:14PM -0500, Buddha Buck wrote: > The Schultz Set = { A | A>>>A } > Note: Because A==A, it isn't the case that A>>A, This is clever, but wrong. Consider an election with people voting: 30 x ABCD 40 x ACDB 50 x ADBC A wins unanimously and is t

Re: Request for comments [voting amendment]

2002-11-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 06:13:14PM -0500, Buddha Buck wrote: > The Schultz Set = { A | A>>>A } > Note: Because A==A, it isn't the case that A>>A, This is clever, but wrong. Consider an election with people voting: 30 x ABCD 40 x ACDB 50 x ADBC A wins unanimously and is t

Re: Request for comments [voting amendment]

2002-11-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 03:42:37PM -0500, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: > AFAICT, your version only gives one level of transitivity, which does > not necessarily suffice. I have retracted it. > An explicitly iterative version would have to read along the lines of > > Definition: An option F is in the

Re: Request for comments [voting amendment]

2002-11-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 06:24:14AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 12:54:59PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > Definition: An option F is in the beat path of option G if option G > > defeats option F, or if there is another option H which defeats G, AND > > option F de

Re: Request for comments [voting amendment]

2002-11-13 Thread Buddha Buck
Raul Miller wrote: This is not a full draft. In this post, I'm only including text for replacing A.6 of the constitution. I wanted to also rewrite the changes to A.3, but I've got to run some errands tonight and I'm not going to have time to write up a full draft. Please let me know of any fla

Re: Request for comments [voting amendment]

2002-11-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 03:42:37PM -0500, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: > AFAICT, your version only gives one level of transitivity, which does > not necessarily suffice. I have retracted it. > An explicitly iterative version would have to read along the lines of > > Definition: An option F is in the

Re: Request for comments [voting amendment]

2002-11-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 06:24:14AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 12:54:59PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > Definition: An option F is in the beat path of option G if option G > > defeats option F, or if there is another option H which defeats G, AND > > option F de

Re: Request for comments [voting amendment]

2002-11-13 Thread Buddha Buck
Raul Miller wrote: This is not a full draft. In this post, I'm only including text for replacing A.6 of the constitution. I wanted to also rewrite the changes to A.3, but I've got to run some errands tonight and I'm not going to have time to write up a full draft. Please let me know of any flaw

Re: Request for comments [voting amendment]

2002-11-13 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 06:03:54PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: [...] > > Definition: An option F is in the beat path of option G if > > option G defeats option F or if there is some other option > > H where option H is in t

Re: Request for comments [voting amendment]

2002-11-13 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 06:03:54PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: [...] > > Definition: An option F is in the beat path of option G if > > option G defeats option F or if there is some other option > > H where option H is in t

Re: Request for comments [voting amendment]

2002-11-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 12:54:59PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > Definition: An option F is in the beat path of option G if > > option G defeats option F or if there is some other option > > H where option H is in the beat path of G AND option F is in > >

Re: Request for comments [voting amendment]

2002-11-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 12:54:59PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > Definition: An option F is in the beat path of option G if > > option G defeats option F or if there is some other option > > H where option H is in the beat path of G AND option F is in > >

Re: Proposal - non-free software removal

2002-11-13 Thread John Goerzen
I accept Branden's amendment. On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 04:48:04AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > I would like to a very minor amendment to this proposal. I will not > withdraw my second if you elect not to accept it. > > > D. That the maintainer of the Debian Policy Manual, or an appointee of >

Re: Proposal - non-free software removal

2002-11-13 Thread John Goerzen
I accept Branden's amendment. On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 04:48:04AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > I would like to a very minor amendment to this proposal. I will not > withdraw my second if you elect not to accept it. > > > D. That the maintainer of the Debian Policy Manual, or an appointee of >

Re: Request for comments [voting amendment]

2002-11-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 06:03:54PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > This is not a full draft. In this post, I'm only including > text for replacing A.6 of the constitution. I wanted to > also rewrite the changes to A.3, but I've got to run some > errands tonight and I'm not going to have time to write

Re: Request for comments [voting amendment]

2002-11-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 06:03:54PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > This is not a full draft. In this post, I'm only including > text for replacing A.6 of the constitution. I wanted to > also rewrite the changes to A.3, but I've got to run some > errands tonight and I'm not going to have time to write