Re: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Branden, and the SPI board, need to stop side stepping issues. >Why are you discussing this on debian-vote? Still? Why not? -- ciao, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread MJ Ray
Ean Schuessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] Ultimately the question still stands, have > operations been repaired? I doubt anyone would take a "yes" here now, quite rightly. We need to watch and decide for ourselves. > Would it have been better to let me execute a rapid > and forceful reo

Re: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 01:07:16PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > Ean Schuessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] Ultimately the question still stands, have > > operations been repaired? > > I doubt anyone would take a "yes" here now, quite rightly. We > need to watch and decide for ourselves. Ean i

Re: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread MJ Ray
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ean is right that Debian needs to be more active with SPI. I wish many > more Debian developers were actively watching SPI. It would help if SPI announced its board meeting dates more widely. For example, I just looked for the next meeting date. I looke

Re: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 03:08:52PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ean is right that Debian needs to be more active with SPI. I wish many > > more Debian developers were actively watching SPI. > > It would help if SPI announced its board meeting dates more widel

Re: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 08:26:00AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 01:07:16PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > Ean Schuessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [...] Ultimately the question still stands, have > > > operations been repaired? > > > > I doubt anyone would take a "yes" he

Re: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 04:17:19PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 08:26:00AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > Ean is right that Debian needs to be more active with SPI. I wish many > > more Debian developers were actively watching SPI. Every Debian > > developer is entitled to

Re: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 09:36:38AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 04:17:19PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 08:26:00AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > > Ean is right that Debian needs to be more active with SPI. I wish many > > > more Debian developers w

SPI opacity, was: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread MJ Ray
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 03:08:52PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > It would help if SPI announced its board meeting dates more widely. > I do e-mail spi-general with the info about 2 weeks in advance. Why would I look for announcements on the list for "General di

Re: SPI opacity, was: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 04:35:25PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 03:08:52PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > > It would help if SPI announced its board meeting dates more widely. > > I do e-mail spi-general with the info about 2 weeks in advance.

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Re: SPI opacity, was: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 04:35:25PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] It's about time I learn how to edit the SPI site, I suppose. > > If you find out, please add it to the site. I have no idea where to OK, I've added a news item to the site. I've also added

Re: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread Ean Schuessler
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 7:07 am, MJ Ray wrote: > I doubt anyone would take a "yes" here now, quite rightly. We > need to watch and decide for ourselves. Hey. I agree. > No and I think you've demonstrated why not very well. I would > hope that there are laws against presidents doing that, bu

Re: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Please take this off debian-vote. It is not on-topic here and belongs elsewhere. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread Ean Schuessler
I will continue to respond to inquiries on this topic on Debian -vote. You have expressed your opinion that this is off topic for vote. Since Branden is running for DPL (or has, at least, begun rallying support) and since the topic of discussion is his success as an officer of SPI, I modestly su

Angus Lees for DPL

2005-02-23 Thread Anand Kumria
Hi, I hereby nominate Angus 'gus' Lees as Debian Project Leader (DPL). He might be a emacs (xemacs too. peh.) using perl fanboy but he lives in Cabal HQ (Sydney, Australia)[1]. Thanks, Anand [1]: There is no Cabal. Really. -- linux.conf.au 2005 - http://lca2005.linux.org.au/ - Birthplace

Re: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Ean Schuessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I will continue to respond to inquiries on this topic on Debian > -vote. You have expressed your opinion that this is off topic for > vote. Since Branden is running for DPL (or has, at least, begun > rallying support) and since the topic of discussion i

Re: Angus Lees for DPL

2005-02-23 Thread Graham Wilson
On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 11:52:08AM +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: > I hereby nominate Angus 'gus' Lees as Debian Project Leader (DPL). > > He might be a emacs (xemacs too. peh.) using perl fanboy but he lives in > Cabal HQ (Sydney, Australia)[1]. Don't developers have to nominate themselves? Or am I

Re: Angus Lees for DPL

2005-02-23 Thread Angus Lees
At Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:48:35 -0600, Graham Wilson wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 11:52:08AM +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: > > I hereby nominate Angus 'gus' Lees as Debian Project Leader (DPL). > > Don't developers have to nominate themselves? Or am I mistaken? That seems a strange rule. How about

Re: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread MJ Ray
> Please take this off debian-vote. [...] Please stop cc'ing me on list, at least. I read debian-vote. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Angus Lees for DPL

2005-02-23 Thread Lars Wirzenius
to, 2005-02-24 kello 13:17 +1100, Angus Lees kirjoitti: > At Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:48:35 -0600, Graham Wilson wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 11:52:08AM +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: > > > I hereby nominate Angus 'gus' Lees as Debian Project Leader (DPL). > > > > Don't developers have to nominate th

Re: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread Ean Schuessler
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 7:09 pm, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Where has he been "rallying support"? Where is he an announced candidate? http://wiki.debian.net/?DraftBranden > What you have stated are not the facts. Are you afraid to bring them > up on the SPI mailing lists where they belo

Re: Angus Lees for DPL

2005-02-23 Thread Graham Wilson
On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 01:17:53PM +1100, Angus Lees wrote: > At Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:48:35 -0600, Graham Wilson wrote: > > Don't developers have to nominate themselves? Or am I mistaken? > > That seems a strange rule. How about I second the nomination, is that > good enough for you? I'm not both

Re: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread MJ Ray
Ean Schuessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > As I've said, I can be combative, irrational and mean tempered. At the same > time, I was able to get a few years of accounting problems cleared up in a > week or two. [...] Huh? If you cleared up the accounting problems, why did you come into th

Re: Angus Lees for DPL

2005-02-23 Thread MJ Ray
Anand Kumria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hereby nominate Angus 'gus' Lees as Debian Project Leader (DPL). http://people.debian.org/~gus/ is less than stunning. Someone might want to look at that. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only: see http://people.debian.org/~mjr/ Subscribed to this list. No need

Re: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread Ean Schuessler
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 9:05 pm, MJ Ray wrote: > Huh? If you cleared up the accounting problems, why did you come into > this thread claiming that there are accounting problems? Did SPI undo > all the process changes you put in place in another week or two? As a service to mailservers everyw

Re: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-23 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 09:41:05PM -0600, Ean Schuessler wrote: > On Wednesday 23 February 2005 9:05 pm, MJ Ray wrote: > As a service to mailservers everywhere I'll put up a permanent page outlining > my complaints: > > http://www.eanschuessler.com/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=SPIAccounting [ snip ] > Op

Re: Angus Lees for DPL

2005-02-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:17:53 +1100, Angus Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > At Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:48:35 -0600, Graham Wilson wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 11:52:08AM +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: >> > I hereby nominate Angus 'gus' Lees as Debian Project Leader >> > (DPL). >> >> Don't develo