On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 11:33:43PM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 09:27:36AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
Steve Langasek wrote:
As someone who is
both an ftpmaster and a DPL candidate, could you also tell us what
resources you (or the ftpmasters as a
Hello, world.
This year's DPL debate will take place on Saturday, 19 March 2005,
at 23:00 UTC[0]. It will last for two hours. The meeting will take
place over IRC, using two channels:
#debian-dpl-debate: on this channel, the candidates answer
questions and debate. The channel is moderated
Sven Luther wrote:
Well, i guess people get rather irritated if sending email to ftp-master email
address for things that are mostly reasonable could as well go to /dev/null,
Sure, of course they are, and so they should be. I can fairly readily
find 52k more reasons for people to be irritated
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Scripsit MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Neither feels that the groups it reports on are their main
audience.
As far as I can see, the main audience of DWN is Debian developers,
package maintainers, and other members of the community. This audience
is
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes:
resolves the complaints about NEW and hence I don't think that the NEW
issue is an example of a communication problem at all.
This is getting slightly too detailed discussion for a DPL, but
anyway: what do you think the NEW issue is an example of?
Hi David,
I'm going to cheat and treat this as two questions.
David N. Welton wrote:
A. Towns writes, in his platform:
I think it's important that the project accept contributions from as
large and diverse a group of technically skilled people as we can
manage. I think the best way to achieve
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 03:29:58AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
Sven Luther wrote:
Well, i guess people get rather irritated if sending email to ftp-master
email
address for things that are mostly reasonable could as well go to
/dev/null,
Sure, of course they are, and so they should be. I
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote:
As a concrete example, I don't think
http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html
resolves the complaints about NEW and hence I don't think that the NEW
issue is an example of a communication problem at all.
http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 20:08, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
In order to try to keep the size of the discussion still consumeable by
as much people as possible,
Do you think it'd be feasible[1] to put essential questions and answers (like
two or three paragraphs per candidate on a website
Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ah, in which case I salute the innovative way in which you boldly post
to -vote on topics bearing increasingly little resemblance to the DPL
election.
Sorry if I'm communicating it badly, but I think the
debian-women problem includes all the hot topics of
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nope, it doesn't work that way. The translators come to the d-i and
translation team and ask what they can do to help get it translated.
I think this is tied up with the change of installer. It makes
it a bit tricky to figure out who could have done
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark, [...]
That reminds me of one thing that has annoyed me during tbm's
leadership (sorry tbm! You have done most things well):
it has been very difficult to correct the bastard form of
my name listed on db.d.o that was
also sprach martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.03.04.1158 +0100]:
#debian-dpl-debate:
#debian-dpl-discuss:
... on the Freenode network (accessible via irc.debian.org:6667).
Sorry for the noise, and my failure to mention that in my first
post.
As before: details to follow at the end
On Friday 04 March 2005 06:21 am, Anthony Towns wrote:
I can think of a few ways to try to resolve this. The most important is
killing noise, by which I primarily mean off-topic threads, but also
mails generally that don't add anything to the discussion because
they're, eg, just rehashing old
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Given the relatively short period of time that debian-women has existed,
it's unsurprising that most of their work is still located on their own
site rather than integrated into the main suite of pages. It's hardly a
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:33:15PM +0100, David Schmitt wrote:
On Thursday 03 March 2005 04:41, Anthony Towns wrote:
Sven Luther wrote:
I would like to know from the DPL candidates what is their opinion on way
the ftp-masters handle the NEW queue,
I think this is the wrong question.
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:48:26PM +, MJ Ray wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, it is not that people think esperanto is not significant enough, but
rather than nobody interested in esperanto cared enough early enough in the
process to get it supported.
I don't think
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I didn't find the new mentoring programme either. I remember being
told some time ago that a mentor course would be announced,
but now you mention it, I don't recall ever seeing it.
Oh my god, MJ Ray missed an announcement! Everyone, stop what you're
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:26:20AM +, MJ Ray wrote:
* They have friends who get puffed regularly, but good news
stories about groups on the blacklist can get ignored and/or
stuffed at the bottom of the issue.
Oooh! So the fact that I've shown up in it a few times means I'm part of
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been labelled because I fit a similar description to others,
so why not label debian nazi if there is a nazi DD? I think that
shows the absurdity of some debian-women contributors.
Could you please provide a pointer to this labelling?
--
Matthew Garrett
On Friday 04 March 2005 14:22, MJ Ray wrote:
David Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If there is interest I would give it a try and collect them onto the
Debian wiki or something.
Debian wiki is both editable by many and not editable by all. I
think it would be safer to put it on people.d.o
Sorry, this is definitely OT for -vote. But I wanted to clarify the
follwing comment, which has been made repeatedly on this thread, incase
anyone is actually wondering about it.
MJ Ray wrote:
I think it's a problem that most of the points under how to
avoid being sexist haven't actually been
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 06:33:12PM +0100, David Schmitt wrote:
Sounds reasonable. I put it up on my webpage (since I am no DD):
http://debian.edv-bus.at/vote-2005/
I've tried my best to avoid any bias and mostly only pasted relevant
paragraphs. There should be links to the original mails
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote:
Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
anyway: what do you think the NEW issue is an example of?
Not having enough time in the day.
The resolutions to that are:
(a) reprioritising things
(b) making more time available
(c) making things take less time
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 11:28:16AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
Sven Luther wrote:
And again to my purely technical question. Is it really necessary for
kernel-source-2.6.11 to go through NEW once it is uploaded for example ?
It's not a technical issue it's a legal one -- our approach to
Matthew Garrett wrote:
Erm, ftpmaster hat, I guess.
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote:
As a concrete example, I don't think
http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html
resolves the complaints about NEW and hence I don't think that the NEW
issue is an example of a communication problem at
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 11:07:06AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes:
resolves the complaints about NEW and hence I don't think that the NEW
issue is an example of a communication problem at all.
This is getting slightly too detailed
Ean Schuessler wrote:
On Friday 04 March 2005 06:21 am, Anthony Towns wrote:
I can think of a few ways to try to resolve this. The most important is
killing noise, by which I primarily mean off-topic threads, but also
mails generally that don't add anything to the discussion because
they're, eg,
Sven Luther wrote:
I have some real trouble with the fact that all the work i do for debian is
reported to the US secret services or whatever by the ftp-masters and our
archive handling services, and i certainly did *NOT* agree to this being the
case.
Everyone subscribed to debian-devel-changes
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have some real trouble with the fact that all the work i do for debian is
reported to the US secret services or whatever by the ftp-masters and our
archive handling services, and i certainly did *NOT* agree to this being the
case.
What are you talking
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 09:09:50PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 11:07:06AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes:
resolves the complaints about NEW and hence I don't think that the NEW
issue is an example of a
Hi,
do you consider the way the scud team way formed the preferred way in
future? What do you think are the special strength of that way? Is this
way transparent enough? And, do you consider that nobody of DSA is part
of the scud team as a feature or as a bug?
Cheers,
Andi
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Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been labelled because I fit a similar description to others,
so why not label debian nazi if there is a nazi DD? I think that
shows the absurdity of some debian-women contributors.
Could you please provide a
Helen Faulkner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are four points. Of those, three are being done already, namely
^^
the first [1],[2] third [3][4][5] and fourth [6]. There are many other
such references on the Debian Women webpages and
Erinn Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005:03:04 14:07 +]:=20
If debian-women are so good at communicating, why don't I see it?=20
Because you refuse to subscribe to our list or read DWN for ideological
reasons.
I think you'll find many DDs aren't subscribed to
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can list all the mailing lists and fora you read, but the point is that
unless you watch the entire world's open communications, you will miss
announcements. It's a fact of life. The choices for senders are,
basically, to either have a single
Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, if someone thinks something should be in DWN, sending a mail
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] really helps.
It helps to get a reply a month later with inaccurate inflated rewrites.
At least it helped for me everytime I wanted to have something covered.
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote:
I think it's far more important for people working on Debian to focus
their attention on improving our operating system; if Mark J Ray is a
correct variant of your name, no matter how bastardised, I don't think
it's worth worrying about changing
On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 02:25:49AM +, MJ Ray wrote:
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can list all the mailing lists and fora you read, but the point is that
unless you watch the entire world's open communications, you will miss
announcements. It's a fact of life. The
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sadly not directly. The public stuff is too vague and
limited to the level of Who cares? about someone linking
krooger's message to him being a white christian male.
All the debian-women mail is public.
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