Questions for candidates: as spokesperson of Debian Project

2005-03-06 Thread Kenshi Muto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, As far as I read threads, they are mainly focused Project inside. Yes, they are important issue, but I think one of DPL's work is a representation to the world as spokesperson. Debian Project Leader said ... will be respected than any DD's talk

Re: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 12:34:25PM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote: Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 10:10:45PM -0500, Erinn Clark wrote: None of the individuals [...] Can we _please_ stop refering to people by their nicknames, IRC handles or whatever it is that you are

Re: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-06 Thread Jonathan Walther
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 08:30:54PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 12:34:25PM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote: Can we _please_ stop refering to people by their nicknames, IRC handles or whatever it is that you are using? It's bad enough to try and remember a couple hundred

Re: Questions for candidates: as spokesperson of Debian Project

2005-03-06 Thread Jonathan Walther
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 05:48:20PM +0900, Kenshi Muto wrote: Questions: * Do you think DPL has spokesperson's job? Absolutely! Every Debian Developer acts as a representative of Debian, but the DPL is first among equals, so to speak. My skills at writing, public speaking, and listening to others

Re: Questions for candidates: as spokesperson of Debian Project

2005-03-06 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Jonathan Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 05:48:20PM +0900, Kenshi Muto wrote: Questions: * Do you think DPL has spokesperson's job? Absolutely! Every Debian Developer acts as a representative of Debian, but the DPL is first among equals, so to speak. My skills at

Re: ftpmasters' job and the DPL

2005-03-06 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h * Sven Luther [Sat, Mar 05 2005, 08:32:57PM]: I think we could do a better job of documenting the best ways of packaging things. I don't think anything beyond ignorance of what the best way actually is is stopping anyone from implementing really new things though. I

Re: Questions for candidates: as spokesperson of Debian Project

2005-03-06 Thread Sanghyeon Seo
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 02:05:16 -0800, Jonathan Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) Debian doesn't have the resources to focus on anything other than making the best GNU/Linux distribution on the planet. Therefore, Hurd and/or BSD porters should be damned? Sorry, couldn't resist. -- To

Re: Questions to candidates: what is source?

2005-03-06 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 12:44:44AM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: Am Samstag, den 05.03.2005, 23:11 + schrieb Andrew Suffield: On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 03:30:14PM +, Henning Makholm wrote: Indeed, I would be reluctant to vote for any candiate who would commit to twenty-four

Re: debian-women obscurity, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-06 Thread MJ Ray
Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MJ Ray wrote: Erinn Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because you refuse to subscribe to our list or read DWN for ideological reasons. I think you'll find many DDs aren't subscribed to your list or reading DWN. *yawn* And they're also not the ones

Re: Questions to candidates: what is source?

2005-03-06 Thread Matthew Garrett
Seo Sanghyeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. How do you define source code yourself? I believe that source code is anything that allows us to learn how the software works and modify it to function in different ways. In almost all cases, the GPL's preferred form for modification will be source code

Re: Questions for candidates: as spokesperson of Debian Project

2005-03-06 Thread Anthony Towns
Kenshi Muto wrote: Questions: * What do you think about Debian Project acts for political/legal theme with other projects such as FSF, EFF and so on? (Although we've already done sometimes.) * Do you think DPL has spokesperson's job? Ideally, I think the people explaining what's going on

Re: Questions for candidates: as spokesperson of Debian Project

2005-03-06 Thread Andreas Schuldei
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 05:48:20PM +0900, Kenshi Muto wrote: Hi, As far as I read threads, they are mainly focused Project inside. Yes, they are important issue, but I think one of DPL's work is a representation to the world as spokesperson. This is true and it is an other great application

Re: Questions for all candidates re: interpersonal behavior

2005-03-06 Thread Anthony Towns
Clint Adams wrote: Assume the demarcated hypothetical scenario to be true for the questions which follow. ===BEGIN ALLEGORY=== I spend the next several hours sending Andrew Suffield chain letters that say if you don't fix tla by Thursday, your liver will transform into mascarpone. I send these

Re: Questions to candidates: what is source?

2005-03-06 Thread Anthony Towns
Seo Sanghyeon wrote: The Debian Free Software Guidelines states that The program must include source code. 1. How do you define source code yourself? It means different things in different contexts; for Debian's purposes it means the stuff you need to modify then compile to produce the stuff you

Re: OT: Re: debian-women obscurity, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-06 Thread MJ Ray
Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You haven't said anything sexist about it, except that it has a clear purpose. I have, IMO. I consider discrimination on the basis of sex to be sexism. I've also described an incident of unchallenged racism on the debian-women list. While I believe

Re: Questions for all candidates re: interpersonal behavior

2005-03-06 Thread Matthew Garrett
Clint Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assume the demarcated hypothetical scenario to be true for the questions which follow. I've pretty much ignored your scenario, and given some general answers instead - I think the problem is general enough that a specific example isn't really needed. Is

Re: OT: Re: debian-women obscurity, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-06 Thread Ben Burton
You haven't said anything sexist about it, except that it has a clear purpose. I have, IMO. I consider discrimination on the basis of sex to be sexism. i.e., you favour the law of the jungle. Which, may I say, has a fine history of maintaining artificial imbalances caused by past

Re: Questions for candidates: as spokesperson of Debian Project

2005-03-06 Thread Kenshi Muto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andreas, At Sun, 6 Mar 2005 22:11:19 +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote: * What do you think about Debian Project acts for political/legal theme with other projects such as FSF, EFF and so on? (Although we've already done sometimes.) I can

Re: OT: Re: debian-women obscurity, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-06 Thread MJ Ray
Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have, IMO. I consider discrimination on the basis of sex to be sexism. i.e., you favour the law of the jungle. Which, may I say, has a fine history of maintaining artificial imbalances caused by past injustices. No, I favour stopping discrimination and

Re: OT: Re: debian-women obscurity, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-06 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 02:09:26AM +, MJ Ray wrote: Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have, IMO. I consider discrimination on the basis of sex to be sexism. i.e., you favour the law of the jungle. Which, may I say, has a fine history of maintaining artificial imbalances caused by

Re: OT: Re: debian-women obscurity, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-06 Thread MJ Ray
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 02:09:26AM +, MJ Ray wrote: Arguing in favour of so-called positive discrimination is just another case of ignoring present crimes by past-persecuted people. We have to learn from the past and overcome mistakes, not relive

Re: Question for candidate Lees

2005-03-06 Thread Angus Lees
At Fri, 4 Mar 2005 01:44:32 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: First, I know that you didn't get a platform to Manoj before his deadline, and that he has not been in a position to post web updates since then. Do you have a platform that you could post to the list to tell us about yourself as a

Re: control systems theory and sociology [was: debian-women obscurity]

2005-03-06 Thread Matthew Palmer
[Just when you think all hope in a thread is lost, along comes a post with Clue] On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 03:10:37AM +, MJ Ray wrote: Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 02:09:26AM +, MJ Ray wrote: Arguing in favour of so-called positive discrimination is

Re: Question for candidate Towns

2005-03-06 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au Matthew Garrett wrote: (I'm not suggesting that the ftp-masters are doing their job inadequately here, See, that's the thing, you _are_. You can tell, because you had to explicitly refute the idea; it's the same as being able to tell you're