Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread David N. Welton
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David N. Welton) wrote: > > Just to be clear, nothing against Anthony Towns. I think he'd do > > alright as DPL. > > Sounds like you've asked a few people and are now hedging your bets! Nope, my comments had nothing to do with him. I'd li

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread Anthony Towns
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: On 20050325T002711+0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: Eh, the buyer can demand proof, the same proof a voter has to verify his vote is tallied: ask the secret token. Ouch. Nasty. Bad. (This is one of the reasons why real elections have partisan observers present in v

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Wesley J Landaker [Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:23:34 -0700]: > On Thursday, 24 March 2005 20:15, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > Since the voter gets a return e-mail, they'd likely know about it, > > but if the attacker was clever and threw your ballot in right before > > the deadline, you wouldn't have enoug

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread Matthew Garrett
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think that Wesley may be thinking more along the lines of a simple replay > attack -- if you *do* change your mind, your earlier (publically posted) > ballot can be fed back into the system again, to reset your preferences to > those you originally cho

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread Wesley J Landaker
On Thursday, 24 March 2005 20:15, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 02:57:43AM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > Wesley J Landaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thursday, 24 March 2005 16:52, Roger Leigh wrote: > > >> Happily, the OP still has a chance to change his mind ;-) > >

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread Wesley J Landaker
On Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:57, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Wesley J Landaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday, 24 March 2005 16:52, Roger Leigh wrote: > >> Happily, the OP still has a chance to change his mind ;-) > > > > Unless someone else sends in his already signed ballot... > > You c

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 02:57:43AM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Wesley J Landaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday, 24 March 2005 16:52, Roger Leigh wrote: > >> Happily, the OP still has a chance to change his mind ;-) > > > > Unless someone else sends in his already signed ballot...

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread Matthew Garrett
Wesley J Landaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday, 24 March 2005 16:52, Roger Leigh wrote: >> Happily, the OP still has a chance to change his mind ;-) > > Unless someone else sends in his already signed ballot... You can send in multiple ballots. Only the last one will count. As a resul

Re: Ballots and one way hashes

2005-03-24 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 04:55:35PM -0800, Robert Woodcock wrote: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 12:27:11AM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > > Eh, the buyer can demand proof, the same proof a voter has to verify his > > vote is tallied: ask the secret token. Assuming md5 is a strong hash, > > this

Ballots and one way hashes

2005-03-24 Thread Robert Woodcock
On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 12:27:11AM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > Eh, the buyer can demand proof, the same proof a voter has to verify his > vote is tallied: ask the secret token. Assuming md5 is a strong hash, > this way a voter can prove his/her ballot if (s)he wishes to publicly > (or pr

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread Wesley J Landaker
On Thursday, 24 March 2005 16:52, Roger Leigh wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David N. Welton) writes: > > Steve Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 09:12:51PM +0100, David N. Welton wrote: > >> > I'm amazed at how little people seem to have done to inform > >> > themselves ab

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread Roger Leigh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David N. Welton) writes: > Steve Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 09:12:51PM +0100, David N. Welton wrote: >> >> > I'm amazed at how little people seem to have done to inform themselves >> > about all t

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20050325T002711+0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > Eh, the buyer can demand proof, the same proof a voter has to verify his > vote is tallied: ask the secret token. Assuming md5 is a strong hash, > this way a voter can prove his/her ballot if (s)he wishes to publicly > (or privately) show to

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread MJ Ray
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David N. Welton) wrote: > Just to be clear, nothing against Anthony Towns. I think he'd do > alright as DPL. Sounds like you've asked a few people and are now hedging your bets! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 01:13:49AM +0200, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > The point of a secret vote is to make sure vote buying is ineffective, > since under secret ballots the buyer is unable to verify that the > voter actually cast the ballot he or she claimed to have cast; and > that point is p

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20050324T135006-0600, John Goerzen wrote: > Well... > > So much for: > 1) secret ballots Secret ballots mean that the actual ballots are never published by the secretary. It does not mean that voters are not allowed to make their choice public (or to claim they voted in a particular way, desp

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread David N. Welton
Just to be clear, nothing against Anthony Towns. I think he'd do alright as DPL. -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Apache, Linux, Tcl Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMA

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread David N. Welton
Steve Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 09:12:51PM +0100, David N. Welton wrote: > > > I'm amazed at how little people seem to have done to inform themselves > > about all the candidates, myself. > Just because people vote in a way that you might not does not mean > t

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread Steve Kemp
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 09:12:51PM +0100, David N. Welton wrote: > I'm amazed at how little people seem to have done to inform themselves > about all the candidates, myself. Just because people vote in a way that you might not does not mean they are uninformed. It just means we are all look

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread David N. Welton
I'm amazed at how little people seem to have done to inform themselves about all the candidates, myself. -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Apache, Linux, Tcl Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe"

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread Martin Schulze
John Goerzen wrote: > Well... > > So much for: > 1) secret ballots > 2) reading directions Reading is a lost art nowadays. -- Michael Weber I'm also quite appalled by the vote. *sigh* Regards, Joey -- No question is too silly to ask, but, of course, some are too sil

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread Luk Claes
Hi John Goerzen wrote: Well... So much for: 1) secret ballots 2) reading directions You should mail it signed, but not encrypted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You might have the same problem [0] as some others [1] [2] [3]. You'll be listed [4] as a unique voter [5] if your vote arrives. Cheers Luk [0] h

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread John Goerzen
Well... So much for: 1) secret ballots 2) reading directions On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 08:44:29PM +0100, Emmanuel le Chevoir wrote: > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 46348448-74a5-40ae-a651-49704435ae8c > [ 3 ] Choice 1: Jonathan Walther > [ 6 ] Choice

Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread Emmanuel le Chevoir
- - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 46348448-74a5-40ae-a651-49704435ae8c [ 3 ] Choice 1: Jonathan Walther [ 6 ] Choice 2: Matthew Garrett [ 2 ] Choice 3: Branden Robinson [ 1 ] Choice 4: Anthony Towns [ 5 ] Choice 5: Angus Lees [ 4 ] Choice 6: Andreas Sch

Re: Call for votes for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta
On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 05:24:15PM -0600, Debian Project Secretary wrote: > Hi, > >FIRST CALL FOR VOTES FOR THE DEBIAN PROJECT LEADER ELECTION 2005 >= === = === === == === == > > Votinge period starts 00:00:01 UTC on March 21st, 2005. >