Re: Proposal for *Real* Declassification of debian-private archives

2005-12-03 Thread MJ Ray
Kalle Kivimaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [...] And as you can see from the proposal, we all > have a veto on the declassification [...] There is no *veto* in the proposal. There is a limited opportunity for the message author to object and otherwise a GR can be used - which would be possible anyway if

Re: Proposal for *Real* Declassification of debian-private archives

2005-12-03 Thread MJ Ray
Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I also worry about security reports that include personally > identifiable information, trade (business?) secrets or copyrighted > material, which are not really relevant to the bug itself, but were > sent in with the expectation that this was a typical vendor s

Re: GR Proposal: Declassification of -private

2005-12-03 Thread MJ Ray
Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 03:00:42PM +, Moray Allan wrote: > > Wouldn't it be better for people interested in opening the -private > > archives to try a pure opt-in approach first? (Which wouldn't require > > any change to current policies.) > > If most of the archive sho

Re: Alternate proposal for Declassification of debian-private archives

2005-12-03 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 02 December 2005 03.35, Anthony Towns wrote: > (Followups to -vote) > > On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 08:30:37AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: > > The primary reason for this is that the existing messages were sent to > > debian-private with an expectation of privacy. > > As Matthew pointed out

Re: General Resolution: Declassification of debian-private list archives

2005-12-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 11:03:03PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Wouter Verhelst: > > First of all, I do think we can, per 4.1.3 (as others have already > > pointed out). However, I don't think that is relevant; "Debian will seek > > to do foo" doesn't mean "Debian will do foo", and "This proces

Re: Proposal for *Real* Declassification of debian-private archives

2005-12-03 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Some of these issues are certainly unfixed, and very, very few might > even be unpublished. It's unlikely that one of those has been sent to > Debian, though. And if it has been sent to Debian and ignored, I'd say that our Social Contract _mandates_ us