On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 08:06:31AM +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 07:50:49AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > List masters, this is evidence that Frans is not going to stop this, and
> > > as i
> > > asked yes
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 08:49:46AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 08:06:31AM +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 07:50:49AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> > > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > List masters, this is evid
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 09:38:08AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 08:49:46AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 08:06:31AM +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > (blah blah blah blah)
> >
> > *sigh* and here it starts again...
>
> And you
Hello,
I paste here the last instance of the draft proposal by the debian kernel team
[1]. Well, mostly me and Frederik, with direct input from Manoj, and reflecting
assorted comments from others, Steve and Anthony being the most prominent ones.
Please review this, especially with regard to engl
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006, Neil McGovern wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 11:07:20PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote:
> > > === START OF PROPOSAL ===
> > > The debian project resolves that :
> > >
> > > 1) We recognizes that there are many uncleared issues with the
> > > current binary firmware file
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006, Sven Luther wrote:
> Manoj, if you don't stop this manipulation now, i am going to ask
> for your recall as secretary, not sure if this is possible under the
> constitution.
Manoj has not done *ANYTHING* that requires secretarial powers so far.
Indeed, the secretary *CANNOT* i
On 10/6/06, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'd defer to Larry Doolittle on this one, but I think unless we have
some reason to think there is another form used as source code, it's
fine to consider the only codes our source code - for all we know, it
was written that way. Best of all would be
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 01:01:10AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Oct 2006, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Manoj, if you don't stop this manipulation now, i am going to ask
> > for your recall as secretary, not sure if this is possible under the
> > constitution.
>
> Manoj has not done *ANYTHING
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 11:18:09AM +0300, Markus Laire wrote:
> On 10/6/06, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I'd defer to Larry Doolittle on this one, but I think unless we have
> >some reason to think there is another form used as source code, it's
> >fine to consider the only codes our source
On 10/5/06, Anthony Towns wrote:
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 02:57:33PM +0300, Markus Laire wrote:
> Hopefully (but I doubt this) someone in Debian will get sued for this
> violation in Etch, to stop such a behaviour in the future.
You do realise we're going to voluntarily stop it immediately after
* Bill Allombert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061006 01:21]:
> On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 06:45:05PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
> > The reason why you were banned from debian-release was mostly because of
> > turning it in a discussion list which it is not intended for.
>
> It was rather because someone has an
Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
> Sure. However it makes no sense having a discussion about individual blobs
> or, even worse, about whether these are distributable under the GPL at all.
> As Steve has pointed out repeatedly, that last responsibility lies with the
> maintainer (the kerne
Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 07:09:05PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> > Anthony Towns wrote:
> > > Frederik's proposal as amended by Manoj has been seconded by:
> > [...]
> > > MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > That is not a second of Frederik's proposal. Does it still count?
>
> It
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 01:29:01PM +0300, Markus Laire wrote:
> On 10/5/06, Anthony Towns wrote:
> >On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 02:57:33PM +0300, Markus Laire wrote:
> >> Hopefully (but I doubt this) someone in Debian will get sued for this
> >> violation in Etch, to stop such a behaviour in the futur
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Manoj, if you don't stop this manipulation now, i am going to ask for your
> recall as secretary, not sure if this is possible under the constitution.
Why the $DEITY is this personal abuse public?
Why the $DEITY is this personal abuse even sent?
How about
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> == START OF PROPOSAL ==
> Definition: For the purpose of this resolution, the "firmware" mentioned below
> design binary data encoded as hexdumps in some of the linux kernel drivers and
s/design/&ates/ ; s/en
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 07:09:53AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> It is not reasonable for the project to vote on questions of legality, nor
> is it appropriate to rely on debian-legal for questions of legality. If the
May I remind that debian-legal is a mailing list ?
> relevant delegates/maint
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 01:40:47PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > == START OF PROPOSAL ==
> > Definition: For the purpose of this resolution, the "firmware" mentioned
> > below
> > design binary data encoded as hex
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061006 10:00]:
> I paste here the last instance of the draft proposal by the debian kernel team
> [1]. Well, mostly me and Frederik, with direct input from Manoj, and
> reflecting
> assorted comments from others, Steve and Anthony being the most prominent
> ones
On Friday 06 October 2006 14:19, MJ Ray wrote:
> As I've pointed out and repeat again here, getting this wrong may cause
> criminal liability of some resellers and mirrors.
Ack.
> I think it's fair
> for -vote to issue a clear position statement and (hopefully) protect
> the project from attack
SECOND CALL FOR VOTES FOR "DFSG #2 APPLIES TO ALL PROGRAMMATIC WORKS"
== === = === = == === == === ==
Voting period starts 00:00:01 UTC on Sunday,1st October, 2006
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC on Saturday, 14th October, 2006.
Th
On Friday 06 October 2006 14:42, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061006 10:00]:
> > I paste here the last instance of the draft proposal by the debian
> > kernel team [1]. Well, mostly me and Frederik, with direct input from
> > Manoj, and reflecting assorted comments from
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 09:21:21PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Friday 06 October 2006 14:42, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061006 10:00]:
> > > I paste here the last instance of the draft proposal by the debian
> > > kernel team [1]. Well, mostly me and Frederik, with
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Hello, ...
Since there seems nobody objected to the proposal, and the few returns i had
were mostly positive, i am now making the following proposal.
I will add below the original rationale of Frederik's proposal, on whom
this one is based, as well a
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