Re: [GR] DD should be allowed to perform binary-only uploads

2007-02-13 Thread MJ Ray
Neil McGovern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:20:24PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > Neil McGovern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 02:02:51AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > > > Yes, but sorry if this question was unclear: What says SPI only listens > > > > to >

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:11:55PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 06:00:12PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 06:35:07PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > > Uh, what's this if not peer review? > > > It's not peer review when we discuss it later and no

Re: [GR] DD should be allowed to perform binary-only uploads

2007-02-13 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:20:24PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > Neil McGovern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 02:02:51AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > > Yes, but sorry if this question was unclear: What says SPI only listens to > > > the DPL, not the project? > > > > I'll extract the e

Re: [GR] DD should be allowed to perform binary-only uploads

2007-02-13 Thread MJ Ray
Neil McGovern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 02:02:51AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > Yes, but sorry if this question was unclear: What says SPI only listens to > > the DPL, not the project? > > I'll extract the exact line from the above text for you: > ... state the SPI Board's c

Re: [GR] DD should be allowed to perform binary-only uploads

2007-02-13 Thread Ian Jackson
Neil McGovern writes ("Re: [GR] DD should be allowed to perform binary-only uploads"): > I'll extract the exact line from the above text for you: > ... state the SPI Board's current understanding of who is authorised to > act for the project ... > > In this case, the DPL. Nonsense. If we we

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 06:00:12PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 06:35:07PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > Uh, what's this if not peer review? > > It's not peer review when we discuss it later and none of us (including > > you) have any power to do anything about it, exc

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 10:45:06AM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: > Frank Küster wrote: > > >> > I don't imagine Aurelien's any less upset, but as far as I can see, > > >> > there > > >> > aren't actual problems with the way arm's keeping up at present: > > >> > > >> Another problem is that the bui

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-13 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 02:18:12PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 07:56:36AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > This is a two-way street though. Aurelien was trying to solve a problem > > he perceived to exist with the arm port. His solution has been rejected, > > but is the or

Re: [GR] DD should be allowed to perform binary-only uploads

2007-02-13 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 02:02:51AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > Neil McGovern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 11:58:46AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > > What says SPI only listens to the DPL, not the project? AIUI, the DPL > > > is appointed as an adviser to SPI's board, not a veto. >

Re: [GR] DD should be allowed to perform binary-only uploads

2007-02-13 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 01:05:19PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 01:24:21AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > One thing that strikes me is that in all of the emails so far, > > > everyone is ignoring that this whole thing started because Aurelien > > > decided to start aut

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-13 Thread Martin Schulze
Frank Küster wrote: > >> > I don't imagine Aurelien's any less upset, but as far as I can see, there > >> > aren't actual problems with the way arm's keeping up at present: > >> > >> Another problem is that the buildd email mailbox is apparently piped to > >> /dev/null. > > > > FWIW, buildd mail i

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-13 Thread Frank Küster
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hamish Moffatt wrote: >> > ] I am really upset by the way the ARM build daemons are managed. The >> > ] packages are not uploaded regularly, with sometimes three days between >> > ] two uploads. [...] >> > ] >> > ] All of that resulted in ARM being the s

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-13 Thread Martin Schulze
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > ] I am really upset by the way the ARM build daemons are managed. The > > ] packages are not uploaded regularly, with sometimes three days between > > ] two uploads. [...] > > ] > > ] All of that resulted in ARM being the slowest architecture to build > > ] packages. [...]

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 06:35:07PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > Uh, what's this if not peer review? > It's not peer review when we discuss it later and none of us (including > you) have any power to do anything about it, except via long drawn-out > political processes. Err, I could change it r