Re: Question to all the candidates: please explain GR-2006-001

2007-03-16 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 11:48:43PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: > To all candidates who wish to respond: > How did you vote for the GR on the GFDL[1] (GR-2006-001) and why? > In case you didn't vote, could you explain why? > [1] http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_001 http://lists.debian.or

Re: Q 2 all candidates: Usage of [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-03-16 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 08:37:17PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > In the past, there have been several attempts e.g. by the release team > to send postings to one of those lists directly. In all cases this has > been rejected by Joey, in one case he altered the text in a way the > release team

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2007: Draft ballot

2007-03-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Ian Jackson wrote: > Could it be permitted rearrange the entries on the ballot ? It would > be much clearer to be able to vote: > > [ 1 ] Choice B: Bob > [ 2 ] Choice A: Alice > [ 3 ] Choice Z: None Of The Above > [ 4 ] Choice C: Carol It's not clear to me how you'd expre

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2007: Draft ballot

2007-03-16 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Sven Luther wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 04:06:34PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > > Would it be possible to use just letters, rather than both letters and > > numbers ? That will make everything a little less confusing - in > > particular it makes it impossible to mistake rankings for choic

Re: Q 2 all candidates: Usage of [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-03-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > How do you plan help the press team out here? By encouraging people to help. The two issues that you mentioned have been problematic because of timing issues. IMO anyone who want to help should start by contributing to debian-publicity and draft ann

Q 2 all candidates: Usage of [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-03-16 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, [ Please don't CC me, i am reading d-vote actively ] According to lists.debian.org, two of our current mailinglists have the following use: debian-news@lists.debian.org: | Debian News, weekly and otherwise | General news about the distribution and the project. | | The current events and news

Re: Questions for DPL candidates: casting the lead to fathom our course

2007-03-16 Thread Ron
Hi Steve, I'd like to avoid discussing this on -vote, the questions were primarily to elicit your opinions, and we aren't voting on mine ;-) If there are topics you think should be discussed further, please feel free to move them to the appropriate forum for the issue. Since you've turned a coup

Re: Question for all candidates: pushing people

2007-03-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 03:03:05PM +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > * Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070316 14:35]: > > > How would other candidates avoid dropping topics like this? > > > > The only way you can do that is by actively asking people to produce a > > report when they said they'

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2007: Draft ballot

2007-03-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 04:06:34PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2007: Draft > ballot"): > > [ ] Choice 1: Wouter Verhelst > ... > > [ ] Choice A: None Of The Above > > Would it be possible to use just letters, rather than both lette

Re: Question to all the candidates: please explain GR-2006-001

2007-03-16 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:22:36 +0100 Julien Cristau wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 15:58:00 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 11:48:43PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: [...] > > > To all candidates who wish to respond: > > > > > How did you vote for the GR on the GFDL[1]

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2007: Draft ballot

2007-03-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2007: Draft ballot"): > [ ] Choice 1: Wouter Verhelst ... > [ ] Choice A: None Of The Above Would it be possible to use just letters, rather than both letters and numbers ? That will make everything a little less confusing - in pa

Re: Question for all candidates: pushing people

2007-03-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > * Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070316 14:35]: > > > How would other candidates avoid dropping topics like this? > > > > The only way you can do that is by actively asking people to produce a > > report when they said they'd do so. > > that so

Re: Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-16 Thread MJ Ray
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:22:40AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > [...] Is this the sort of "fire and forget" > > reporting that we would expect if Steve McIntyre were elected DPL? > [...] > If writing the full report wasn't Steve's responsability, then it's n

Re: Question to all the candidates: please explain GR-2006-001

2007-03-16 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007, Francesco Poli wrote: > How did you vote for the GR on the GFDL[1] (GR-2006-001) and why? Option 1->: GFDL-licensed works are unsuitable for main in all cases / Option 2>: GFDL-licensed works without unmodifiable sections are free |/ Option 3--->: GFDL-licen

Question for all candidates: pushing people

2007-03-16 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070316 14:35]: > > How would other candidates avoid dropping topics like this? > > The only way you can do that is by actively asking people to produce a > report when they said they'd do so. that sounds to me like you wanted to continue with "but you cant d

Re: Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:22:40AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Looks like Google is really everywhere these days. I'm curious about > > SoC: What where the last year's Debian projects and what was there > > outcome? Which projects where successful and which

Re: Question to all the candidates: what mistakes have you made and what did you learn of it

2007-03-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:08:20AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > Hi all, > > Since so much of the perceived troubles debian has been having lately can be > traced down to arrogance and pride, as well as failures to communicate, i want > to ask these question to the DPL candidates now : > > 1) Can

Re: Question to all the candidates: please explain GR-2006-001

2007-03-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:53:56AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 16 mars 2007 à 08:35 +0100, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > While there are other problems than the > > invariant section, it was really the biggest problem and the others > > will probably disappear with the next GFDL up

Re: Question to all the candidates: please explain GR-2006-001

2007-03-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 11:48:43PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: > Hi all, > IANADD, so I don't have vote right, but I'd like to ask a question > anyway. > > To all candidates who wish to respond: > > How did you vote for the GR on the GFDL[1] (GR-2006-001) and why? According to the tally sheet

Re: Question to the candidates: RC bugs fixe

2007-03-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 07:17:59PM +, Thaddeus H. Black wrote: > An admittedly modest technical contributor to Debian, I have not > earned the right to complain often, so I don't. Nevertheless, I agree > pretty much completely with the words of Andreas Tille, Clint Adams > and Frans Pop; and I

Re: Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, MJ Ray wrote: > So, just to be sure I've understood your reply: if you-as-DPL (or one of > your delegates) tells us that we can expect something, that would't mean > anything if the task depends on someone else? You'd feel that you need > not check whether we get it, or give a

Re: Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-16 Thread MJ Ray
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, MJ Ray wrote: > > How would other candidates avoid dropping topics like this? [cc'd to > > -vote for these questions, please drop -project or -vote on replies] > > This is not really up to the DPL. That would be useless micro-management. [

Re: ajt's anti-rebuttal

2007-03-16 Thread MJ Ray
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To add a remark here, the press team welcomes contributions and > ideas for news releases. Unfortunately, very few people have spoken > with the press team before and discussed issues that could (and would) > be send out as press releases. [...] Some D

Re: Question to all the candidates: what mistakes have you made and what did you learn of it

2007-03-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 11:08:26AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > > > 1) Can you tell us a few of the most important mistakes you have made > > > during > > > these past two years with regard to debian ?

Re: Question for Gustavo and Sam: bringing back the fun

2007-03-16 Thread MJ Ray
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Many of us probably missed the humor because of the missing disclaimer > explaining "ha-ha, this was only a joke, I don't really think we should have > flamewars despite the fact that I'm frequently a rude jerk to others in the > project." One person's r

Re: Question for Gustavo and Sam: bringing back the fun

2007-03-16 Thread MJ Ray
Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Debian having a reputation for its flamewars seems to be a pretty clear > indication of a problem. If it was "In Debian people discuss > passionately and then make good decisions" it would be much less of a > problem than the current "Debian = endless fl

Re: Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-16 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, MJ Ray wrote: >> How would other candidates avoid dropping topics like this? [cc'd to >> -vote for these questions, please drop -project or -vote on replies] > > This is not really up to the DPL. That would be useless micro-management.

Re: Question to all the candidates: what mistakes have you made and what did you learn of it

2007-03-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > > 1) Can you tell us a few of the most important mistakes you have made > > during > > these past two years with regard to debian ? > > The announce of an Ubuntu freeze on d-d-a. FWIW, I voluntarily overl

Re: Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, MJ Ray wrote: > How would other candidates avoid dropping topics like this? [cc'd to > -vote for these questions, please drop -project or -vote on replies] This is not really up to the DPL. That would be useless micro-management. Last year was our first participation and it ha

Re: Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-16 Thread Emanuele Rocca
* MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [2007-03-16 9:22 +]: > Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Looks like Google is really everywhere these days. I'm curious about > > SoC: What where the last year's Debian projects and what was there > > outcome? Which projects where successful and w

Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-16 Thread MJ Ray
Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looks like Google is really everywhere these days. I'm curious about > SoC: What where the last year's Debian projects and what was there > outcome? Which projects where successful and which failed? Excellent questions! Steve McIntyre wrote in "Bits fr

Re: Question to all the candidates: what mistakes have you made and what did you learn of it

2007-03-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > 1) Can you tell us a few of the most important mistakes you have made during > these past two years with regard to debian ? The announce of an Ubuntu freeze on d-d-a. > 2) What do you believe where the consequences of those mistakes ? A big fl

Re: Question to all the candidates: please explain GR-2006-001

2007-03-16 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 16 mars 2007 à 08:35 +0100, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > While there are other problems than the > invariant section, it was really the biggest problem and the others > will probably disappear with the next GFDL update AFAIK. That's good news to hear. I've not followed the GFDL affair r

Re: Question for Gustavo and Sam: bringing back the fun

2007-03-16 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 15 mars 2007 à 15:19 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > Many of us probably missed the humor because of the missing disclaimer > explaining "ha-ha, this was only a joke, I don't really think we should have > flamewars despite the fact that I'm frequently a rude jerk to others in the > proje

Question to all the candidates: what mistakes have you made and what did you learn of it

2007-03-16 Thread Sven Luther
Hi all, Since so much of the perceived troubles debian has been having lately can be traced down to arrogance and pride, as well as failures to communicate, i want to ask these question to the DPL candidates now : 1) Can you tell us a few of the most important mistakes you have made during th