Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-04-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:42:05 -0400, Mike O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > You are mistaken. I should have included more of the quote, where you > definately talk about speed. Here is the entire paragraph: > Because the number of hats does not seem to be a good > predictor for perfor

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-04-01 Thread Mike O'Connor
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 04:20:30PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:21:52 -0400, Mike O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 09:43:28AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 05:43:47 -0400, Mike O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> sai

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-04-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:21:52 -0400, Mike O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 09:43:28AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 05:43:47 -0400, Mike O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> said: >> >> > I saw multiple people suggesting such limits. I did NOT see any

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-04-01 Thread Joey Hess
Ian Jackson wrote: > That's a nice idea but if a problem with the TC is that the decisions > are too poor, reducing the number of people who review those decisions > seems like a bad idea. One thing that I'm feeling is that if a technical decision comes down to a vote by a committe, there's often

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-04-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: Technical committee resolution"): > As RMS would say on emacs-dev; a decision like this should be > made by polling the suers (not a vote -- polling them for opinions > _and_ reasons. > > The TC would have been equally wrong body to make this decisio

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-04-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Joey Hess writes ("Re: Technical committee resolution"): > Ian Jackson wrote: > > So these two don't seem necessarily to indicate that the decisions > > were wrong, just that they were ignored. There has indeed been a > > problem with TC decisions being ignored. > > The TC is the decision-maker o

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-04-01 Thread Mike O'Connor
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 09:43:28AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 05:43:47 -0400, Mike O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > I saw multiple people suggesting such limits. I did NOT see anyone > > propose a reason for such a limit other than you who seemed to be > > conclu

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-04-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 05:43:47 -0400, Mike O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I saw multiple people suggesting such limits. I did NOT see anyone > propose a reason for such a limit other than you who seemed to be > concluding that the reason for a limit was the speed at which people > were perfor

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-04-01 Thread Mike O'Connor
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 03:13:02AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 02:32:54 -0400, Mike O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > It seems to me however that there might be other valid reasons to > > limit the number of important hats one wears other than what effect it > > mig

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-04-01 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Tuesday 01 April 2008 11:09, Joey Schulze wrote: > > [wordpress] > > > FWIW, it's orphaned since yesterday. But let's keep it in Lenny > > > as well, I no longer care. > > Can you please elaborate? "Orphaned, pretty bad security record, let's > > keep it" -> I don't understand. > Maybe it's

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-04-01 Thread Joey Schulze
Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Monday 31 March 2008 21:45, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > [wordpress] > > FWIW, it's orphaned since yesterday. But let's keep it in Lenny > > as well, I no longer care. > > Hu? > > Can you please elaborate? "Orphaned, pretty bad security record, let's keep > it"

Re: My vote

2008-04-01 Thread Philipp Kern
[ Please Cc me on replies, if any, I am not on -vote. ] On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 03:30:55AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Hi Manoj, I haven't yet got the ack for my vote but I guess I know the > > reason. Do you use the pristine Debian keyring? If so, could you > > please either refresh all

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-04-01 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Monday 31 March 2008 21:45, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: [wordpress] > FWIW, it's orphaned since yesterday. But let's keep it in Lenny > as well, I no longer care. Hu? Can you please elaborate? "Orphaned, pretty bad security record, let's keep it" -> I don't understand. regards, H

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-04-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 02:32:54 -0400, Mike O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > It seems to me however that there might be other valid reasons to > limit the number of important hats one wears other than what effect it > might have on ones performance. As examples I think that it would be > reasona

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-04-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:28:53 +0200, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > But in a reasonably serious discussion on the composition of the >> > same committee, IMHO a bit more tact would be in order. Ultimately, >> > for your own sake, certainly not mine... >> >> Err, is that some kind of a

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-04-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:34:37PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Indeed, it does seem a bit strange to use those terms in this context, > > where me and the person whose idea you attacked are developers with no > > particular elevated position over you, and you are a member of the > > technica

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-04-01 Thread Mike O'Connor
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:28:24PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:47:42 -0300, Martín Ferrari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 6:46 AM, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > better job of them