Re: Purpose of the Constitution and the Foundation Documents

2009-01-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 03:45:59AM +, Ian Jackson wrote: This leaves us with really four options: A. Explicitly de-entrench the Foundation Documents by repealing Constitution 4.1(5) 1..3 and establishing the Social Contract and DFSG as simple Position Statements according to

Re: Coming up with a new Oracle (was: Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR)

2009-01-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Raphael Hertzog writes (Re: Coming up with a new Oracle (was: Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR)): On Tue, 06 Jan 2009, Ian Jackson wrote: [Raphael:] I agree with the intent but I don't agree with the list of persons you selected. I would restrict it to: - The

Re: Purpose of the Constitution and the Foundation Documents

2009-01-09 Thread Ean Schuessler
- Ian Jackson wrote: Then the ftpmasters and/or the TC will decide to throw it out. If you don't trust the ftpmasters and you don't trust the TC then what kind of setup could you trust ? If you're only willing to trust yourself and your hand-picked co-adherents then I'm afraid you need

Re: Purpose of the Constitution and the Foundation Documents

2009-01-09 Thread Russ Allbery
Ean Schuessler e...@brainfood.com writes: What you are avoiding is that the FTP masters or the Technical Committee *is* option D in your scheme. They are the final arbitrators of DFSG compliance. I see nothing in the constitution that empowers the TC to rule on licensing issues except when

Re: Purpose of the Constitution and the Foundation Documents

2009-01-09 Thread Michael Goetze
Russ Allbery wrote: In other words, if non-free is just another archive section, why do we have this whole distinction? And while we're maintaining this distinction, I think it's clear that moving something into non-free is never going to be an action people are willing to take lightly. Since,