Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 01:07:33PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > >Any thoughts? We could have such a vote over and done in about two weeks, >with the DPL's consent, and it'd seem a lot more inclusive and less >cabal-tastic than how things seem to be working atm... Personally, I think the last thin

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-12 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 01:07:33PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Any thoughts? We could have such a vote over and done in about two > weeks, with the DPL's consent, and it'd seem a lot more inclusive and > less cabal-tastic than how things seem to be working atm... I think it is a bad idea, given

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Manoj Srivastava dijo [Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 03:08:52PM -0500]: >> > I basically oppose such a GR, as it is is merely speculative (who >> > knows _now_ or at the GR voting time when we will be close to >> > achieving our release goals?), and because it is a

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-12 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Manoj Srivastava dijo [Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 03:08:52PM -0500]: > > I basically oppose such a GR, as it is is merely speculative (who > > knows _now_ or at the GR voting time when we will be close to > > achieving our release goals?), and because it is a ruling on a > > technical subject (at least a

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, Matthew Johnson wrote: > On Tue Aug 11 10:12, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > > Personally I don't think we should do a GR to recommend a freeze or release > > date. > > We already used the DPL election to push a release, when it was *long* due, > > but > > I don't think we sho

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-12 Thread Marc Singer
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Marc Singer [090812 03:12]: > > 2009/8/11 Josselin Mouette > > > > > [deletia] > > > > > > I do not trust a majority of people ? regardless of the people ? to > make > > > an appropriate managerial decision. We have people in charge,

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-12 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Marc Singer [090812 03:12]: > 2009/8/11 Josselin Mouette > > > [deletia] > > > > I do not trust a majority of people ? regardless of the people ? to make > > an appropriate managerial decision. We have people in charge, who take a > > lot of time to remain informed of the status of various subs

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-12 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 07:56:33PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > The whole vote is to come up with a recommendation for the > decision makers And should the decision makers not follow that recommendation, the flamewars will truely begin. The format and phrasing of this is: "The Debian