Re: Q for the Candidates: How many users?

2010-03-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Ben Finney writes: > Russ Allbery writes: >> We're running somewhere in the neighborhood of 500 Debian stable >> servers. I'm afraid running popcon on them is a non-starter so far due >> to concerns about information exposure. When this was previously >> discussed on debian-devel, it became clea

Re: Q for the Candidates: How many users?

2010-03-22 Thread Ben Finney
Russ Allbery writes: > Bernd Zeimetz writes: > > Anthony Towns wrote: > > >> * popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,523 submissions, > >> * popcon.ubuntu.com currently reports 1,493,440 submissions, and > >> * that this is something of a trick question, […] > We're running somewhere in

Re: Q for the Candidates: How many users?

2010-03-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 02:27:23PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our > > users and free software", > > * popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,523 submissions, > > * popcon.ubuntu.com currently reports 1,493,440 submissions, an

Re: Q for the Candidates: How many users?

2010-03-22 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 22 March 2010 20:50, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 09:45:13PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 02:27:23PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: >> > Anthony Towns wrote: >> > >> > >   * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our >> > > users an

Re: Q for the Candidates: How many users?

2010-03-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 09:45:13PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 02:27:23PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > Anthony Towns wrote: > > > > > * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our > > > users and free software", > > > * popcon.debian.org curr

Re: Q for the Candidates: How many users?

2010-03-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
[ I reply here to both Anthony and Bernd questions, which are very much intertwined. ] On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 05:19:20PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our > users and free software", > * popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,52

Re: Q for the Candidates: How many users?

2010-03-22 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 02:27:23PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > Anthony Towns wrote: > > > * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our > > users and free software", > > * popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,523 submissions, > > * popcon.ubuntu.com currently reports

Re: Q for the Candidates: How many users?

2010-03-22 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Russ Allbery , 2010-03-22, 13:35: * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our users and free software", * popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,523 submissions, * popcon.ubuntu.com currently reports 1,493,440 submissions, and * that this is something of a trick q

Re: Q for the Candidates: How many users?

2010-03-22 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 05:19:20PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Hi *, > > Bearing in mind: > > * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our > users and free software", > * popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,523 submissions, > * popcon.ubuntu.com currently reports

Re: Q for the Candidates: How many users?

2010-03-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Bernd Zeimetz writes: > Anthony Towns wrote: >> * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our >> users and free software", >> * popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,523 submissions, >> * popcon.ubuntu.com currently reports 1,493,440 submissions, and >> * that this i

Re: Q for all candidates: license and copyright requirements

2010-03-22 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 09:47:09AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 02:42:51PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit : > > > > On the contrary, I'm against point (2) of the GR. I do consider our > > source packages to be part of Debian and hence subject to DFSG. If > > something

Re: Q for the Candidates: How many users?

2010-03-22 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Anthony Towns wrote: > * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our > users and free software", > * popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,523 submissions, > * popcon.ubuntu.com currently reports 1,493,440 submissions, and > * that this is something of a trick questio

Re: Q for all candidates: license and copyright requirements

2010-03-22 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Charles, On Sonntag, 21. März 2010, Charles Plessy wrote: > Lastly, I am not sure if I will ask sponsors for this GR, as I wrote: > > ‘A GR that is accepted by a large majority is not necessarly a waste of > time, because it dissipates misunderstantings that can arise with tacite > agreements

Responses from a semi-disappeared DPL

2010-03-22 Thread Anthony Towns
Hey *, I thought it might be interesting to have the perspective of an ex-DPL on some of the questions that have been raised. FWIW, etc. (For people who don't know me, I was DPL in 2006 and release manager from around 2000-2004, among other things) On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 08:30:03AM +0100, Gerfri

Q for the Candidates: How many users?

2010-03-22 Thread Anthony Towns
Hi *, Bearing in mind: * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our users and free software", * popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,523 submissions, * popcon.ubuntu.com currently reports 1,493,440 submissions, and * that this is something of a trick question, Wha

Re: Q for all candidates: license and copyright requirements

2010-03-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 09:47:09AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > I explained in my GR proposition what led me to conclude that not everything > in > the original archives distributed usptream is a source for Debian. Let's take > a > non-free RFC for example, that is not distributed in a binary p