Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-03-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 06:31:13PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: While it's probably too late in this process to change what we're going to vote on, I just ran across this today, and it may be of general interest in the context of codes of conduct.

Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Donnerstag, 20. März 2014, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Sorry for the slight hijack but: | X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) ^^^ Seriously? why not? We welcome non technical contributors, don't we? cheers, Holger, who longs for changing his X-Mailer

Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-21 Thread Francesca Ciceri
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:24:03PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Donnerstag, 20. März 2014, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Sorry for the slight hijack but: | X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) ^^^ Seriously? why not? We welcome non technical contributors,

Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:27:31PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Sorry for the slight hijack but: | Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:29:19 +0100 | From: Neil McGovern n...@halon.org.uk | To: debian-vote@lists.debian.org

Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-21 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:44:54PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: While I understand the question, I'm not sure this is very relevant. If the DPL is expected to speak at confs or talk with the press, I'd very very much prefer the DPL were to use a Debian machine when representing Debian. I think

Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:44:54PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: While I understand the question, I'm not sure this is very relevant. Yes, Debian is about promoting the cause of free software; and yes, actually *using* free software is a very good (first) way to promote its cause. I'll

Both DPL candidates: appropriate choice of dresswear for the DPL

2014-03-21 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:44:54PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: However, Debian is not a cult. Indeed not. We are a clan. Which inspires my next question. Neil and Lucas: do you have, or will you get, a Debian kilt and wear that for Deconf14? -- http://www.cafepress.com/trunktees -- geeky

Re: Both DPL candidates: appropriate choice of dresswear for the DPL

2014-03-21 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:27:11PM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:44:54PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: However, Debian is not a cult. Indeed not. We are a clan. Which inspires my next question. Neil and Lucas: do you have, or will you get, a Debian kilt and wear that

Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-21 Thread Filippo Rusconi
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 02:10:01PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:44:54PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: While I understand the question, I'm not sure this is very relevant. Yes, Debian is about promoting the cause of free software; and yes, actually *using* free

Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-21 Thread Mason Rice
On 3/21/2014 8:42 AM, Filippo Rusconi wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 02:10:01PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:44:54PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: While I understand the question, I'm not sure this is very relevant. Yes, Debian is about promoting the cause of

Re: two questions: fund raising money and publicity

2014-03-21 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi Gunnar, On 20/03/14 at 12:55 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Ana Guerrero Lopez dijo [Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:21:20AM +0100]: * Fundraising DebConf is one of the biggest expenses of Debian, every year we look for sponsorship and we had (and have) sponsors who were sponsoring DebConf as a

Re: Both DPL candidates: appropriate choice of dresswear for the DPL

2014-03-21 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi Lars, On 21/03/14 at 13:27 +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:44:54PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: However, Debian is not a cult. Indeed not. We are a clan. Which inspires my next question. Neil and Lucas: do you have, or will you get, a Debian kilt and wear

Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-21 Thread Neil McGovern
On 21 Mar 2014, at 14:42, Filippo Rusconi lopi...@debian.org wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 02:10:01PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:44:54PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: While I understand the question, I'm not sure this is very relevant. Yes, Debian is about

Re: Both DPL candidates: appropriate choice of dresswear for the DPL

2014-03-21 Thread Neil McGovern
On 21 Mar 2014, at 14:37, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:27:11PM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:44:54PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: However, Debian is not a cult. Indeed not. We are a clan. Which inspires my next question.

Re: All DPL candidates: Debian assets

2014-03-21 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi Hector, On 14 Mar 2014, at 13:25, Hector Oron zu...@debian.org wrote: Hello DPL candidates, First of all congratulations for your nominations. I have several questions for you, I hope you do not mind to reply: Thanks for your question, it’s good to see a DSA member engaging with the

Re: All DPL candidates: Debian assets

2014-03-21 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:44:07PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: At the moment, in just SPI, we have 100k USD awaiting being spent. As an indication, that’s enough for a DebConf without any sponsors! Our donations should be spent. Be that better porter boxes, or a better backup service, or

Re: two questions: fund raising money and publicity

2014-03-21 Thread Gunnar Wolf
[ adding a Cc: to debconf-team ] Lucas Nussbaum dijo [Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 04:15:02PM +0100]: I think I already answered this at least partially in https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/03/msg00192.html, so I will give some more details, specifically for the DebConf case. Ideally, I

Re: All DPL candidates: Debian assets

2014-03-21 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi Lars, On 21/03/14 at 16:02 +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:44:07PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: At the moment, in just SPI, we have 100k USD awaiting being spent. As an indication, that’s enough for a DebConf without any sponsors! Our donations should be spent.

Re: All DPL candidates: Debian assets

2014-03-21 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 20/03/14 at 22:44 +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: I don’t think there’s an “if” here. Ever since I was secretary of SPI, I’ve been concerned about the amount of money that Debian has earmarked. Again, I disagree with Lucas here - I don’t think that saving donors money is a good plan, our