Re: Legitimate exercise of our constitutional decision-making processes [Was, Re: Tentative summary of the amendments]

2014-10-27 Thread The Wanderer
(I wonder about the extent to which this remains on-topic... I didn't hesitate about my previous post, since it was relatively brief and addressed what I thought was an important and relevant single point, but this is considerably longer and gets rather farther afield.) On 10/27/2014 at 11:54 PM,

Re: Legitimate exercise of our constitutional decision-making processes [Was, Re: Tentative summary of the amendments]

2014-10-27 Thread Russ Allbery
The Wanderer writes: > Just as a note, one difference here is that there is support in the > archive and package-distribution mechanisms for having multiple versions > of a package for different architectures or (I think?) kernels, so that > you can build a version with some optional features for

Re: Legitimate exercise of our constitutional decision-making processes [Was, Re: Tentative summary of the amendments]

2014-10-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 10/27/2014 at 10:29 PM, Anthony Towns wrote: > On 28 October 2014 02:36, Steve Langasek wrote: >>> It's clear that many who support systemd balk at the idea they >>> might not be allowed to leverage systemd-specific features in >>> Debian. > > I'm not sure I've seen people seriously proposin

Re: Legitimate exercise of our constitutional decision-making processes [Was, Re: Tentative summary of the amendments]

2014-10-27 Thread Anthony Towns
-project dropped -- no need to spam multiple lists, and -vote seems like the right place for this topic to me. On 28 October 2014 02:36, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 01:32:36PM +, Anthony Towns wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 01:48:33PM +0300, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: >> >

Re: Legitimate exercise of our constitutional decision-making processes [Was, Re: Tentative summary of the amendments]

2014-10-27 Thread Uoti Urpala
Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 01:32:36PM +, Anthony Towns wrote: > > If you were literally beating people with a stick for not testing their > > packages with other init systems, that would certainly be compulsion, no? > > Using policy and RC bugs as a metaphorical stick to be

Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-10-27 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
On 23 October 2014 18:28, Vittorio Beggi (Gmail) wrote: > Ian Jackson's proposal to preserve freedom of choice of init systems. > > I definitely agree with the proposal. > > -- > Vittorio Beggi Me too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscr

Legitimate exercise of our constitutional decision-making processes [Was, Re: Tentative summary of the amendments]

2014-10-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 01:32:36PM +, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 01:48:33PM +0300, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: > > On 24 October 2014 13:15, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 12:57:49PM +0300, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: > > >> No developer in that chain was compelle