Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

On Mon, 18 Jul 2016, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 05:56:12PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > In response to the helpful comments, I've modified my proposed amendment > > to Nicolas's resolution by adding "at minimum", and now propose the > > following amendment: [...] > So this

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 05:56:12PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > In response to the helpful comments, I've modified my proposed amendment > to Nicolas's resolution by adding "at minimum", and now propose the > following amendment: > > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > Title: Declassifying parts of

Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private

Jonathan Dowland writes ("Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private"): > However, this approach for me is less acceptable if there is a diminished > chance of such "flame-retardant" discussions from ever being declassified, > which I think would be the case

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

Jonathan Dowland writes ("Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest"): > Although this part of the text originates from the original GR text and > not Don's amendment, my comment applies as much to the amended text so > I'm threading it here: > > On

Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private

Hi Ian, On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 01:17:20PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Thanks for your message. You're welcome, thanks. > Don's proposed resolution clearly does not close the door. It makes > it possible for someone who is interested in declassification to try > to develop a workable process,

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

Although this part of the text originates from the original GR text and not Don's amendment, my comment applies as much to the amended text so I'm threading it here: On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 05:56:12PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > 3. In keeping with paragraph 3 of the Debian Social Contract,

Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to

tl;dr: pls can we create debian-members@l.d.o with posting acceptance rules copied from debian-devel-announce[1] and subscriber list maintained in sync with debian-private. (Reply-to set to -project.) We've been having a good conversation on -vote about the declassification of -private.

Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private

Jonathan Dowland writes ("Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private"): > This seems a shame to me. It's a promotion of pragmatism over idealism, > suggesting that despite the project believing that a course of action is > the right one, it won't happen,

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

Don Armstrong writes ("Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest"): > In response to the helpful comments, I've modified my proposed amendment > to Nicolas's resolution by adding "at minimum", and now propose the > following amendment: > > === BEGIN GR TEXT

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

also sprach Don Armstrong [2016-07-18 02:56 +0200]: > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > Title: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest > > 1. The 2005 General Resolution titled "Declassification of debian-private >list archives" is repealed. > > 2. Debian

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 05:56:12PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > Title: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest > > 1. The 2005 General Resolution titled "Declassification of debian-private >list archives" is repealed. > > 2. Debian listmasters

Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private

This seems a shame to me. It's a promotion of pragmatism over idealism, suggesting that despite the project believing that a course of action is the right one, it won't happen, pre-supposing any future interest or effort will not exist, which is quite pessimistic (however realistic); essentially

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 05:56:12PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > Title: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest > > 1. The 2005 General Resolution titled "Declassification of debian-private >list archives" is repealed. > > 2. Debian listmasters

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

On Sun, 2016-07-17 17:56:12 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > Title: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest > > 1. The 2005 General Resolution titled "Declassification of debian-private >list archives" is repealed. > > 2. Debian listmasters and/or other

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

* Don Armstrong , 2016-07-17, 17:56: === BEGIN GR TEXT === Title: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest 1. The 2005 General Resolution titled "Declassification of debian-private list archives" is repealed. 2. Debian listmasters and/or other individuals

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

Seconded. On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 05:56:12PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > Title: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest > > 1. The 2005 General Resolution titled "Declassification of debian-private >list archives" is repealed. > > 2. Debian

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

Seconded. On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 05:56:12PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > In response to the helpful comments, I've modified my proposed amendment > to Nicolas's resolution by adding "at minimum", and now propose the > following amendment: > > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > Title: Declassifying