Re: Proposed GR: Repeal the 2005 vote for declassification of the debian-private mailing list

2016-09-16 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 09:36:24AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes: > > I now also tend to think that we, as a collection of individuals, also > > need some sort of "safe space" to discuss certain things, [...] > Furthermore, I think it's unrealistic that such a space won'

Re: Proposed GR: Repeal the 2005 vote for declassification of the debian-private mailing list

2016-09-16 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 12:09:37PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le dimanche, 11 septembre 2016, 11.01:09 h CEST Anthony Towns a écrit : > > In that sense, my reading of the original version of the GR that just > > failed was pretty much "eh, we don't care that much about transparency > > wh

Re: Proposed GR: Repeal the 2005 vote for declassification of the debian-private mailing list

2016-09-16 Thread Bas Wijnen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 08:27:13AM +, Anthony Towns wrote: > > I now also tend to think that we, as a collection of individuals, also need > > some sort of "safe space" to discuss certain things, that can't be public. > > FWIW, that's pretty muc

Re: Proposed GR: Repeal the 2005 vote for declassification of the debian-private mailing list

2016-09-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Anthony Towns writes: > Keeping things secret is definitely a human tendency, but it's not > generally a good one. Sometime it's the best of bad options -- giving > developers time to release fixes to security problems vs immediate > disclosure, is a trivial example; but I honestly can't think of