Re: Question to all candidates: what to do with the Debian money, shall we invest in hardware and cloud?

2024-04-11 Thread Christian Kastner
Hi Thomas, I overlooked this the first time, but On 2024-03-29 16:03, Thomas Goirand wrote: > FYI, if I didn't go forward with the project, that we've been discussing > with Jonathan over at least 3 years, is because I have no idea where to > host it. I have clearly stated that having this hosted

Re: General Resolution: Liquidate donated assets as soon as possible

2022-06-20 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2022-06-20 20:31, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote: > I don't see GRs as "adversarial" or "a last resort to put a nail in the > coffin of a divisive debate", but as a great tool we have to take > collective decisions. I find it difficult to not see a GR as adversarial when deciding things on a par

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-04-02 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2022-04-02 10:55, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Where does our Privacy Policy[1] describe personal data where Debian and > the community team are joint controllers? > Where does our Privacy Policy describe personal data where Debian and > DAM are joint controllers? Has it been established yet that Deb

Re: Results for Voting secrecy

2022-03-27 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2022-03-28 01:22, Christian Kastner wrote: > > On 2022-03-27 19:31, felix.lech...@lease-up.com wrote: >> Would you please explain why Option 2 defeated NOTA by 124 votes but at >> the same time defeated Option 3, which was identical to NOTA, by only 35 >> votes? >

Re: Results for Voting secrecy

2022-03-27 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2022-03-27 19:31, felix.lech...@lease-up.com wrote: > Would you please explain why Option 2 defeated NOTA by 124 votes but at > the same time defeated Option 3, which was identical to NOTA, by only 35 > votes? This seems to be inline with what the proposer intended, though. From the text of C

Re: Question to all candidates: registering Debian as an organization

2022-03-21 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2022-03-21 12:05, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 09:41:49AM +0100, Christian Kastner wrote: >> A common pattern to address this within the open source world is to >> create a non-profit legal entity, e.g. the FSF Foundation or the GNOME >> Foundation.

Re: Question to all candidates: registering Debian as an organization

2022-03-21 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2022-03-21 09:41, Christian Kastner wrote: > Currently, the Project has no legal standing of its > own, meaning that within any legal context, there is no Project. You > can't donate to Debian, you donate to some other organization (SPI). The > DPL can represent the Project

Re: Question to all candidates: registering Debian as an organization

2022-03-21 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2022-03-20 13:10, Felix Lechner wrote: > I'm sorry no one has gotten back to you so far. I do not know which > ideas Jonathan Carter and Brian Gupta (copied as a courtesy) have been > pursuing. > > My own thinking on this point is also evolving, as detailed below. I > copied Christan Kastner to

Question to all candidates: registering Debian as an organization

2022-03-17 Thread Christian Kastner
Jonathan has already addressed this in his platform, acknowledging Brian Gupta's 2020 campaign focus on this, so this is mostly a question for Hideki and Felix: What is your position on registering Debian as an organization? I'm curious as to (1) what you think of the idea in general, and (2) ins

Re: Reaffirm public voting

2022-03-04 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2022-03-04 13:15, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 12:14:56PM +0100, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: >> Is init systems GR a political GR? > > yet there are people maintaining systemd and sysv in public. How is that relevant? I'm neither a systemd nor sysv maintainer, but considerin

Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian

2021-04-01 Thread Christian Kastner
On 01.04.21 10:11, Santiago R.R. wrote: > What happens if Kurt also wants to take part in the discussion? Should > we decide on who will review the messages and announce the winner of > that discussion? I was worried about this, too. I'm not sure that deciding on another reviewer is feasible. Act

Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Re: Willingness to share a position statement?

2021-03-26 Thread Christian Kastner
On 26.03.21 01:06, Simon Richter wrote: >> (2) how deeply Debian gets involved > > We are in a prominent position. The OSI's Open Source Definition is > derived from the Debian Free Software Guidelines, after all, not the > other way 'round. > > There is no way for us to not be involved in some

Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Willingness to share a position statement?

2021-03-25 Thread Christian Kastner
On 25.03.21 22:32, Simon Richter wrote: > Pretty much everything Debian does is political > the "technical" decisions we make based on that also have political > consequences. That's taking meaning of the word 'political' in the widest possible sense, and in that sense, literally any action (or i

Re: How to leverage money to accomplish high impact Debian projects

2021-03-25 Thread Christian Kastner
On 23.03.21 17:28, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > If Debian paid for working on orphaned packages, then I would probably > orphan some of the packages I now maintain as a volunteer, to then work > on those same packages for pay. First, I think that at least two alternative scenarios have to be taken

Re: How to leverage money to accomplish high impact Debian projects

2021-03-25 Thread Christian Kastner
On 23.03.21 16:40, Gard Spreemann wrote: > Jonas Smedegaard writes: >> Seems backwards to to me to pay for keeping packages alive that we have >> lost interest in. > > That's a good point, I agree. What about packages that we have lost > interest in, but that our users very much have not? Admit

Re: How to leverage money to accomplish high impact Debian projects

2021-03-25 Thread Christian Kastner
On 23.03.21 16:04, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote: > On 2021-03-22 16 h 43, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: >> Le vendredi, 19 mars 2021, 17.49:54 h CET Louis-Philippe Véronneau a écrit : >>> I for one would be less motivated to help with videoteam tasks if I knew >>> someone was paid to organise a min

Re: How to motivate contributors to work on QA

2021-03-25 Thread Christian Kastner
Dear DPL candidates, I would like to expand on the following example with a data point: On 23.03.21 10:42, Christian Kastner wrote: > Example 2#: Undermaintained packages, especially in stable > ~~~ > > This is something that every contributor, including me, can probably

Re: How can we make Debian packaging more standardised?

2021-03-24 Thread Christian Kastner
On 24.03.21 15:37, Simon Richter wrote: > The vast majority of the software we ship works fine with a two-line > systemd unit and three debhelper control files, and that is exactly what we > should be using for these cases, but we cannot generalize that to a > requirement, and people wishing to con

How to motivate contributors to work on QA

2021-03-23 Thread Christian Kastner
Dear DPL candidates, the topic of paying developers for Debian work has been raised a few times in abstract terms, and in your answers, I think you made it more or less clear where you stand. However, looking at this from the other side of the argument, I still believe that relying on pure volunt

Re: How can we make Debian packaging more standardised?

2021-03-22 Thread Christian Kastner
On 22.03.21 19:41, Paride Legovini wrote: > Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote on 19/03/2021: > https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2019-03-10-debian-winding-down/ > > I think that the lack of standardization and the fragmented > infrastructure is in good part the root of most of the problems he > out

Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

2021-03-19 Thread Christian Kastner
On 19.03.21 19:47, Sruthi Chandran wrote: > The complete volunteer nature of Debian is one of the important > and attractive point that makes Debian different from other distros. The complete volunteer nature also means that certain tasks/chores get done slowly, or sometimes not at all. For examp

Re: How to leverage money to accomplish high impact Debian projects

2021-03-19 Thread Christian Kastner
On 19.03.21 11:29, Enrico Zini wrote: >> I don't think that lack of interest is the problem here, but I do think >> that Debian contributors tend to be already starved for time, and trying >> to get them to do more is like trying to tap water out of an empty well. >> For some, a financial incentive

Question to Brian: Why multiple foundations?

2020-03-20 Thread Christian Kastner
Brian, I very much support your plan to establish a Debian foundation. Looking back over even just the last few months, I saw numerous challenges that would have greatly simplified if there were a legal entity representing the Debian Project. Having various Project-wide issues, but representation